UM-Bot Posted May 13, 2024 #1 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Bart Sibrel was famously punched in the face by astronaut Buzz Aldrin after heckling him over the Moon landings. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/376997/conspiracy-theorist-claims-demons-are-responsible-for-ufo-sightings 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted May 13, 2024 #2 Share Posted May 13, 2024 To be fair to Buzz, Bart Sibrel is very punchable. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoteric_toad Posted May 13, 2024 #3 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Why not? Since conspiracy theorists rarely have to provide real evidence of their pet conspiracies why not demons? Heck why not clones of Gary Colemen? When there is no real evidence that life exists outside of earth let alone alienz zipping around one can claim anything they want at all about UFO's. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted May 13, 2024 #4 Share Posted May 13, 2024 The conservative Seventh-Day Adventists have been running with this for years. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted May 14, 2024 #5 Share Posted May 14, 2024 10 hours ago, Piney said: The conservative Seventh-Day Adventists have been running with this for years. Did you see that Netflix special on the “blue zones”? They seem to live a long time, or at least when living in a pleasant climate and being retired, financially comfortable and with very little stress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted May 14, 2024 #6 Share Posted May 14, 2024 40 minutes ago, Cho Jinn said: Did you see that Netflix special on the “blue zones”? They seem to live a long time, or at least when living in a pleasant climate and being retired, financially comfortable and with very little stress. They're vegetarian and intoxicants and junk food are sinful. Just like many in my group, the Quakers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninND Posted May 14, 2024 #7 Share Posted May 14, 2024 I never heard the mundane explanation for Kecksburg, at least one that was believable. There's hundreds of reports on file on calling on the name of Jesus and the entities flee. Those who.posted sound like people who've never seen anything truly beyond explanation, so...what's the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAlrakis Posted May 14, 2024 #8 Share Posted May 14, 2024 why not angels? And then while we're at it let's add some Rupert Sheldrake. When he starts comparing angels with protons... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted May 15, 2024 #9 Share Posted May 15, 2024 5 hours ago, JohninND said: I never heard the mundane explanation for Kecksburg, at least one that was believable. There's hundreds of reports on file on calling on the name of Jesus and the entities flee. Those who.posted sound like people who've never seen anything truly beyond explanation, so...what's the point. Then you obviously need to catch yourself up on kecksburg and no, just because something is explained and proven doesn't mean true believers will accept it. Let's start with can you prove Jesus was a real person? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsfall Posted May 15, 2024 #10 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Jesus was definitely real ….I think he played for Arsenal…..😂🤣 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted May 15, 2024 #11 Share Posted May 15, 2024 On 5/13/2024 at 11:11 PM, Hazzard said: This is comedy on a whole new level 😄 and a perfect example of a credulous believers mindset. The punchline to the joke is usually, 'looks like a weather balloon to me' lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted May 15, 2024 #12 Share Posted May 15, 2024 On 5/13/2024 at 11:06 PM, Trelane said: Swamp gas, get with the program pal. When all you have is complaining about people who provide reasonable explanations, maybe it's you that is disconnected. Maybe it's time for you to just be quiet and color if you can't provide anything of value to any converstion. Reasonable explanation??? As objects go whizzing past pilots, 'maybe it's starlink' lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted May 15, 2024 #13 Share Posted May 15, 2024 3 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: The punchline to the joke is usually, 'looks like a weather balloon to me' lol Like Iv said many times before - At least we KNOW that a weather balloon exist. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted May 16, 2024 #14 Share Posted May 16, 2024 5 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Reasonable explanation??? As objects go whizzing past pilots, 'maybe it's starlink' lol Allegedly whizzed by them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted May 16, 2024 #15 Share Posted May 16, 2024 5 hours ago, Hazzard said: Like Iv said many times before - At least we KNOW that a weather balloon exist. Yes, at least most of us know when a weather balloon isn't the culprit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted May 16, 2024 #16 Share Posted May 16, 2024 3 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Yes, at least most of us know when a weather balloon isn't the culprit. But ET fits perfectly.. well ok then. 😄 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted May 16, 2024 #17 Share Posted May 16, 2024 4 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Yes, at least most of us know when a weather balloon isn't the culprit. You believe you don't know, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted May 16, 2024 #18 Share Posted May 16, 2024 49 minutes ago, the13bats said: You believe you don't know, Big difference that always seem to slip these believers by. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted May 16, 2024 #19 Share Posted May 16, 2024 On 5/14/2024 at 2:12 PM, JohninND said: I never heard the mundane explanation for Kecksburg, at least one that was believable. There's hundreds of reports on file on calling on the name of Jesus and the entities flee. Those who.posted sound like people who've never seen anything truly beyond explanation, so...what's the point. Which Jesus? Ben Pantera, Ben Sira, Ben Ananias or the imaginary one created with those 3 in the Gospel? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted May 17, 2024 #20 Share Posted May 17, 2024 19 hours ago, the13bats said: You believe you don't know, I believe... it is definitely not a weather balloon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted May 17, 2024 #21 Share Posted May 17, 2024 18 hours ago, Hazzard said: Big difference that always seem to slip these believers by. The weather balloon Jupiter hallucination believers? Yeah they miss the something has happened that would be great to investigate stages of investigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted May 17, 2024 #22 Share Posted May 17, 2024 22 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: I believe... it is definitely not a weather balloon. That's still flawed as a belief isn't a fact isnt reality, drop bear believes most things are likely paranormal i think he does believe it but it's empty he offers zero to support said belief, 23 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: The weather balloon Jupiter hallucination believers? Yeah they miss the something has happened that would be great to investigate stages of investigation. You mean like the provenance going back to the start of the alleged experience, Roswell Is a great one, if we read the unedited original reports filed by ranch hand Mac brazel what he told the sheriff was junk was littering his range and he didntbwant to clean it up and his description matching exactly what weather balloon wreckage with radar reflectors would look like, he didn't describe what sounded like an interstellar craft. Then next enter marcel who said it looked like junk like a broken up kite wooden sticks paper etc. Then he breaks all kinds of rules and protocols likely could have been courtMarshalled loads some in his trunk and takes it home to show his wife and 12 yo kid, he jokes to the kid it's flying saucer wreckage don't tell anyone, my guess since he knew it wasn't anything special he knew it was okay to take home and not any kind of hazardous to his family. Since it wasn't an ordinary balloon higher ups went nuts, end of any rational case and it actually went dead for decades, until a known UFO and aliens true believer Stanton Friedman stirs up an old bored Marcel who now ad-libs his story and worse his story and his kid story never matched after that showing how unreliable memories are, and needless to say even though he was told never talk about it the kid made good coin doing all kinds of appearances he was even writing a book at the time he died. I won't go into the myriad of con artists who came out decades later with their made up tripe about Roswell so Roswell was by original reports just a balloon, sorry if that upsets believers. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted May 17, 2024 #23 Share Posted May 17, 2024 15 hours ago, the13bats said: That's still flawed as a belief isn't a fact isnt reality, drop bear believes most things are likely paranormal i think he does believe it but it's empty he offers zero to support said belief, You mean like the provenance going back to the start of the alleged experience, Roswell Is a great one, if we read the unedited original reports filed by ranch hand Mac brazel what he told the sheriff was junk was littering his range and he didntbwant to clean it up and his description matching exactly what weather balloon wreckage with radar reflectors would look like, he didn't describe what sounded like an interstellar craft. Then next enter marcel who said it looked like junk like a broken up kite wooden sticks paper etc. Then he breaks all kinds of rules and protocols likely could have been courtMarshalled loads some in his trunk and takes it home to show his wife and 12 yo kid, he jokes to the kid it's flying saucer wreckage don't tell anyone, my guess since he knew it wasn't anything special he knew it was okay to take home and not any kind of hazardous to his family. Since it wasn't an ordinary balloon higher ups went nuts, end of any rational case and it actually went dead for decades, until a known UFO and aliens true believer Stanton Friedman stirs up an old bored Marcel who now ad-libs his story and worse his story and his kid story never matched after that showing how unreliable memories are, and needless to say even though he was told never talk about it the kid made good coin doing all kinds of appearances he was even writing a book at the time he died. I won't go into the myriad of con artists who came out decades later with their made up tripe about Roswell so Roswell was by original reports just a balloon, sorry if that upsets believers. Ha ha, you think Roswell was a weather balloon . lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted May 18, 2024 #24 Share Posted May 18, 2024 17 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Ha ha, you think Roswell was a weather balloon . lol Ha ha, you think Roswell was extraterrestrial craft. lol 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted May 19, 2024 #25 Share Posted May 19, 2024 On 5/17/2024 at 5:35 PM, OpenMindedSceptic said: Ha ha, you think Roswell was a weather balloon . lol Ha ha, you think Tesla talked to aliens LOL 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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