Iranian President Raisi's helicopter suffers 'hard landing', regime on edge

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

8 hours ago, Setton said:

How so?

He'll be replaced with another hardline Khamenei supporter. How does Israel benefit?

If the rumour that Khamahamaha is also looking to book that last one way ticket, a dead President and dead supreme whateverhistitleis would be chaos in supporter #1 of Hamas’ country. 

[Kittens Are Jerks]

US offers condolences over Iran chopper crash, blasts Raisi’s human rights record

The United States on Monday offered its condolences over the deaths of Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, and the other members of their delegation killed in a helicopter crash over the weekend.

“As Iran selects a new president, we reaffirm our support for the Iranian people and their struggle for human rights and fundamental freedoms,” US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said in a statement, in an apparent swipe at the rights record of the deceased. Explaining the decision to offer official condolences in a subsequent briefing, Miller said the US does not want to see anyone die under such circumstances.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-offers-condolences-over-iran-chopper-crash-blasts-raisis-human-rights-record/

[Black Red Devil]

2 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Israeli envoy Erdan lashes out as UN mourns Iran’s Raisi: ‘What’s next? A moment of silence for Hitler?’

Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan lashes out at the Security Council for observing a moment’s silence today in memory of Iranian President Ebhraim Raisi, who was confirmed dead this morning.

“You read correctly, the UN Security Council today held a moment’s silence to remember a mass murder, Iranian President Raisi,” Erdan says in a video statement. “This body, which makes no effort to free our hostages, tipped their heads today to a man who was responsible for the deaths of thousands in Iran, in Israel, and around the world. “What’s next? A minute of silence on the anniversary of Hitler’s death?” Erdan asks, charging that the UN Security Council has become “a danger to world peace.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-envoy-erdan-lashes-out-as-un-mourns-irans-raisi-whats-next-a-moment-of-silence-for-hitler/

I agree the guy had a lot of blood on his hands but he never faced charges for his crimes, especially those crimes within Iran. The UNSC and ICJ are toothless tigers and the whole UN system needs an overhaul.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

6 minutes ago, Black Red Devil said:

I agree the guy had a lot of blood on his hands but he never faced charges for his crimes, especially those crimes within Iran. The UNSC and ICJ are toothless tigers and the whole UN system needs an overhaul.

Yeah no kidding. I know that Raisi was under US sanctions for human rights abuses, but that's barely a tap on the wrist given the scope of his heinous human rights violations. He's been called a 'monster' but that doesn't even come close to describing him.

[Setton]

1 hour ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

If the rumour that Khamahamaha is also looking to book that last one way ticket, a dead President and dead supreme whateverhistitleis would be chaos in supporter #1 of Hamas’ country. 

People have been confidently telling me Khamenei is at death's door for half a decade at least 🙄

[Kittens Are Jerks]

Gazans under attack from Iran sympathizers for celebrating death of Raisi

While the Hamas terrorist group were among the first ones to express their grief and extend condolences over the death of Iranian president Ebrahim Raisi in a helicopter crash yesterday, some Gazan citizens thought differently and uploaded videos of them distributing sweets to celebrate the event, which quickly went viral and drew waves of criticism and even curses against celebrating Gazans.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-801922

[+susieice]

At least one former Iranian official is blaming US sanctions for Raisi's death. Buy them from Russia.

Former Iranian Official Blames US for President's Death, Says Crash Will Be ‘Recorded in the Black List’ (msn.com)

Citing Iranian state media, Business Insider reported on Monday morning that the country’s former foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, blamed U.S. sanctions that prevent the country from buying newer aircraft for forcing Raisi and the others to fly in a decades-old Bell 212 chopper.

The helicopters were made in the U.S. between 1968 and 1998.

It was not clear what year the model Raisi was traveling in when it went down on Sunday, but Zarif told his country’s media that U.S. sanctions imposed in 1979 after the Iranian Revolution have kept the country from operating fleets of modern aircraft.

The official told an Iranian TV station that Raisi’s death in the outdated chopper would be "recorded in the black list of American crimes against the Iranian nation.”

"One of the main culprits of yesterday’s tragedy is the United States, which ... embargoed the sale of aircraft and aviation parts to Iran and does not allow the people of Iran to enjoy good aviation facilities,” he told the AP.

[+susieice]

On World News Tonight, they reported that someone had responded to this saying that Iran, and only Iran, put their President on a 45 yr old helicopter in bad weather. Here we go!

It doesn't really sound like the Iranian government is blaming the US. 

Iran's President Raisi dead in helicopter crash, former foreign minister blames US sanctions - ABC News (go.com)

In a phone interview on Monday with the state TV news program, former Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said the U.S. sanctions on Iranian aviation were one of the main reasons for the crash.

"On the cruel American sanctions, the United States is one of the main guilty ones in the catastrophe of yesterday's crash because, despite the decision of the International Court of Justice, it has sanctioned selling airplanes and aviation spare parts and doesn't allow Iranian people have access to good air transportation," Zarif said. "These will be recorded in the list of the U.S. crimes against Iranian people that how they treated Iranian people."

 

 

Edited May 20 by susieice

[+susieice]

12 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

 

This guy posting on X was debunked.

Fact Check: NO Evidence That Two Indian Diplomats Were Arrested In Iran In Investigation Of President Raisi's Fatal Helicopter Crash | Lead Stories

[Occupational Hubris]

9 hours ago, susieice said:

Shades of Kobe Bryant. A helicopter took off in weather it should not have. 

Pretty close to how SRV went out, too

[Kittens Are Jerks]

 

[CrimsonKing]

7 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Israeli envoy Erdan lashes out as UN mourns Iran’s Raisi: ‘What’s next? A moment of silence for Hitler?’

Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan lashes out at the Security Council for observing a moment’s silence today in memory of Iranian President Ebhraim Raisi, who was confirmed dead this morning.

“You read correctly, the UN Security Council today held a moment’s silence to remember a mass murder, Iranian President Raisi,” Erdan says in a video statement. “This body, which makes no effort to free our hostages, tipped their heads today to a man who was responsible for the deaths of thousands in Iran, in Israel, and around the world. “What’s next? A minute of silence on the anniversary of Hitler’s death?” Erdan asks, charging that the UN Security Council has become “a danger to world peace.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-envoy-erdan-lashes-out-as-un-mourns-irans-raisi-whats-next-a-moment-of-silence-for-hitler/

Absolutely sickening...

Completely gutless...

Words can express,but some things are best left unsaid.

[+and-then]

6 hours ago, susieice said:

I wondered about that too. The articles yesterday said they got a signal from the helicopter. It should have a black box but I can't vouch for what kind of maintenance it's had over the last 40 years. The only choppers they have were gotten before the 1980 revolution by the Ayatolla Khomeni. Sanctions made it hard to get parts. You would think they would at least track that chopper on radar. 

I saw a video commenting on that helicopter yesterday and it said that the Bell 212 was discontinued from production in 1988.  Unless Iran tooled up to fabricate their own replacement parts, those parts would be increasingly difficult to procure or to trust the quality of, when one COULD procure them.  I doubt there are many well-trained maintenance personnel for those birds any longer, either.  I have to agree with Kittens though, it really does look like this was a typical bad weather/human error event.  The fact that the Iranians aren't growling about it publicly either confirms it was an innocent "tragedy" or they aren't willing to chance another dust-up with Israel again.  In that, they are showing wisdom.  It makes me look hateful, I guess, but I genuinely see their deaths as a measure of justice delivered to two who abundantly deserved it.

[+and-then]

14 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Absolutely sickening...

Completely gutless...

Words can express,but some things are best left unsaid.

That's one of the calling cards of that level of hatred.  All it takes is any excuse to rally PUBLIC condemnation and the low lives come out into the light and show themselves for what they really are.  It's actually a good thing, up to a point.  At least the innocents know where to watch and protect themselves from trouble.  

[Ell]

It is pretty obvious to me that the USA purposely put the mountain which the helicopter flew into with nefarious if not homicidal intent at that exact location.

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, CrimsonKing said:

Absolutely sickening...

Completely gutless...

Words can express,but some things are best left unsaid.

I gotta agree. So weird people feel empathy for someone devoid of any empathy. What’s next … a moment of silence for Hitler?

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, and-then said:

I saw a video commenting on that helicopter yesterday and it said that the Bell 212 was discontinued from production in 1988.  Unless Iran tooled up to fabricate their own replacement parts, those parts would be increasingly difficult to procure or to trust the quality of, when one COULD procure them.  I doubt there are many well-trained maintenance personnel for those birds any longer, either.  I have to agree with Kittens though, it really does look like this was a typical bad weather/human error event.  The fact that the Iranians aren't growling about it publicly either confirms it was an innocent "tragedy" or they aren't willing to chance another dust-up with Israel again.  In that, they are showing wisdom.  It makes me look hateful, I guess, but I genuinely see their deaths as a measure of justice delivered to two who abundantly deserved it.

I would think it’s older since anything flying in Iran that was made in America was pre- Shah and the revolution 

[Unusual Tournament]

2 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

 

You enjoy digging deep into Iran. This might interest you.

Slovak Prime Minister Fico was shot in an armed attack 3 days after meeting with Azerbaijani President Aliyev.

The Iranian President's helicopter crashed hours after his meeting with Ilham Aliyev.

[Alchopwn]

7 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Gazans under attack from Iran sympathizers for celebrating death of Raisi

While the Hamas terrorist group were among the first ones to express their grief and extend condolences over the death of Iranian president Ebrahim Raisi in a helicopter crash yesterday, some Gazan citizens thought differently and uploaded videos of them distributing sweets to celebrate the event, which quickly went viral and drew waves of criticism and even curses against celebrating Gazans.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-801922

Gazans are big on schadenfreude it seems.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

 

[Kittens Are Jerks]

7 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

You enjoy digging deep into Iran. This might interest you.

Slovak Prime Minister Fico was shot in an armed attack 3 days after meeting with Azerbaijani President Aliyev.

The Iranian President's helicopter crashed hours after his meeting with Ilham Aliyev.

The assassination attempt on Fico appears to be politically motivated, but what would Aliyev have to gain from Raisi's death?

[Unusual Tournament]

5 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

The assassination attempt on Fico appears to be politically motivated, but what would Aliyev have to gain from Raisi's death?

Don’t know. Just an observation 

[+Hammerclaw]

Good riddance to bad rubbish. 

[+susieice]

Iran requested US assistance in it's search for the crash site.

Biden Admin Denies Iran's Request for Assistance in Wake of President's Death (msn.com)

Miller left the specifics of the request vague while revealing that the United States was willing to help its geopolitical adversary.

"We did make clear to them that we would offer assistance, as we would do in response to any request by a foreign government in this sort of situation," Miller explained.

 

However, tangible cooperation between the United States and Iran didn't materialize.

"Ultimately, largely for logistical reasons, we were unable to provide that assistance," he concluded.

The State Department expressed official condolences for Raisi's death in a statement while reaffirming support for human rights of Iranian citizens.

The statement received backlash, and Miller defended offering condolences for Raisi in a Monday news conference.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

Raisi’s death moves Khamenei’s son to top of running for supreme leader job

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (Reuters) — Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi’s death in a helicopter crash upsets the plans of hardliners who wanted him to succeed Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and will stir rivalries in their camp over who will take over the Islamic Republic when he dies.

A protege of Khamenei who rose through the ranks of Iran’s theocracy, Raisi, 63, was widely seen as a leading candidate to take over from the 85-year-old Supreme Leader – though it was far from being a foregone conclusion in Iran’s opaque politics.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/death-of-raisi-moves-khameneis-son-to-top-of-running-for-supreme-leader-job/