docyabut2 Posted May 27, 2024 #1 Share Posted May 27, 2024 (edited) https://www.foxnews.com/world/netanyahu-responds-strike-killed-hamas-terror-leaders-civilians-investigating-incident Edited May 27, 2024 by docyabut2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted May 27, 2024 Author #2 Share Posted May 27, 2024 Why did the Hamas started this horrible war and expected any thing that would happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 27, 2024 #3 Share Posted May 27, 2024 51 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Why did the Hamas started this horrible war and expected any thing that would happen Hamas intentionally stoked the flames of revenge, knowing Israel would respond in kind. The story continues to be repeated. The IDF strikes Hamas, Hamas is embedded with and surrounded by civilians. The IDF's choice is to surrender and allow Hamas to repeat their savagery over and over OR to take the fight to them and kill them wherever they are found. Anyone who thinks the Israelis are intentionally targeting civilians should offer their logic. Israel benefits not at all from these civilian deaths. Hamas DOES. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted May 28, 2024 Author #4 Share Posted May 28, 2024 The Palestine's should stop the Hamas`s attacks on the Israel oct 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 28, 2024 #5 Share Posted May 28, 2024 1 hour ago, docyabut2 said: The Palestine's should stop the Hamas`s attacks on the Israel oct 7 Most of them didn't know it was coming but the most recent polling in Gaza and the "West Bank" show 80% of them STILL support Hamas. They've heard the stories, saw the videos, they KNOW what was done on 10/7. I have no doubt they'd support it again if it happened tomorrow, but that doesn't mean the IDF intentionally struck those shanties the refugees were in. Even if the Israelis were inclined to be barbarians -they are not - they have a professional military with at least as good a level of discipline as the US. They are under intense pressure for every single civilian death that occurs and it is IRRATIONAL to think they'd intentionally stir the hornet's nest further if they could help it. The fact that this event happened one day after the ICC made its demands of stopping the war, isn't lost on thoughtful people. Some things just seem too convenient. I think an investigation, regardless of who thinks it's honest or not, should occur to see what went wrong and how that ordnance set a fire 800 meters away from the point of impact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted May 28, 2024 #6 Share Posted May 28, 2024 (edited) While I accept the Israeli court's verdict that Netanyahu is corrupt, and should not be holding office, I certainly applaud the destruction of Hamas. Having 2 Hamas leaders dead is hopefully going top signal the death of many more Hamas members. As for the people of Gaza, if they support Hamas terrorism, then they must pay for that support. Edited May 28, 2024 by Alchopwn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted May 28, 2024 #7 Share Posted May 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Alchopwn said: As for the people of Gaza, if they support Hamas terrorism, then they must pay for that support. With their lives? Can we extend the same argument to all the Americans who supported the IRA? The Israelis who supported Zionist terrorist groups to create Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted June 7, 2024 #8 Share Posted June 7, 2024 On 5/28/2024 at 5:42 AM, Alchopwn said: While I accept the Israeli court's verdict that Netanyahu is corrupt, and should not be holding office, I certainly applaud the destruction of Hamas. Having 2 Hamas leaders dead is hopefully going top signal the death of many more Hamas members. As for the people of Gaza, if they support Hamas terrorism, then they must pay for that support. At this point israel has done nothing but ensure that hamas will be around for decades to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted June 7, 2024 #9 Share Posted June 7, 2024 5 hours ago, Occupational Hubris said: At this point israel has done nothing but ensure that hamas will be around for decades to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted June 7, 2024 #10 Share Posted June 7, 2024 10 hours ago, joc said: A lesson you'd think the US would be able to impart after decades of pointless middle eastern wars against "terror" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted June 7, 2024 #11 Share Posted June 7, 2024 5 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: A lesson you'd think the US would be able to impart after decades of pointless middle eastern wars against "terror" If we wanted to rid the world of terror and war, it would be relatively easy to do. We need terror and war. The economy depends on the arms sales. Another damned if you do, damned if you don't. If we end the wars by defeating the actual enemies...then the entire global economy collapses under the weight of no arm sales. If we continue funding the economy through arm sales, eventually the entire global economy collapses under the weight of too many wars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 22, 2024 #12 Share Posted June 22, 2024 On 6/7/2024 at 1:38 AM, Occupational Hubris said: At this point israel has done nothing but ensure that hamas will be around for decades to come. I see this argument regularly and it exposes a lack of understanding of what the real issues are in this neighborhood. Hamas is a religious fundamentalist terror organization. Their Charter clearly states their dedication to destroying the Jewish State and then moving to kill Jews all over the world. That's not my propaganda, it's their words. On the morning of 10/7, there was a ceasefire in effect between Hamas and Israel. It seems pretty clear that there is no way Hamas or the Palestinian Arab Muslims, could possibly hate Israel more than they proved on that morning. As Dan Scheftan likes to say - some problems have no solution so the best that can be done is to manage the repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted June 22, 2024 #13 Share Posted June 22, 2024 10 minutes ago, and-then said: I see this argument regularly and it exposes a lack of understanding of what the real issues are in this neighborhood. Hamas is a religious fundamentalist terror organization. Their Charter clearly states their dedication to destroying the Jewish State and then moving to kill Jews all over the world. That's not my propaganda, it's their words. On the morning of 10/7, there was a ceasefire in effect between Hamas and Israel. It seems pretty clear that there is no way Hamas or the Palestinian Arab Muslims, could possibly hate Israel more than they proved on that morning. As Dan Scheftan likes to say - some problems have no solution so the best that can be done is to manage the repercussions. As isreal is accomplishing is increasing hamas recruitment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 22, 2024 #14 Share Posted June 22, 2024 4 hours ago, Occupational Hubris said: As isreal is accomplishing is increasing hamas recruitment Yeah? I'd say it's a bit more than that. There has been a tremendous amount of urban renewal, IAF style. These people are Arab Muslims. They don't need any other motivation to kill Jews. But hey, if you think Israel could somehow avoid the dangers of these Arabs killing Jews, you probably don't know much about the conflict. The IDF should ignore DC and continue taking Hamas down, in detail. As Hamas transitions into an insurgency we'll see people from all over the media saying Israel couldn't beat Hamas. Israel should simply smile and continue turning every habitable structure that a Hamas fighter fires from, into rubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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