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I've seen death and it's nothing to be scared of


pellinore

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I think this article is more suited to this section than the religion section.

When we talk about deathbed phenomena, we're usually referring to the experiences of the dying person, but caregivers have inexplicable, seemingly miraculous experiences, too.

And people don't necessarily need to be miraculously revived to experience the unusual. Those of us who accompany someone during their journey through the process of dying are often privileged to get these eyewitness reports of somewhere 'else'.

When one woman asked her dying mother, who seemed to be fixated on staring at one spot in the room, what she was seeing, her mother smiled and whispered: 'Light'.

One man shared that his dying father reported: 'The table is set, and it's beautiful.'

Minutes before one woman's mother died, she reached up for her husband, who'd died five years earlier.

'Oh, Bob,' she said, 'I've missed you so much.'

When she lowered her arms, she began to cry. Then she said: 'Bob, I'm coming,' before she slipped away, holding the hand of her daughter.

I've seen death and it's nothing to be scared of: One night, I saw an angel comforting a dying patient. Countless others have told me about their spellbinding visions. There is nothing to fear | Daily Mail Online (archive.ph)

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Death is hardly the rosy picture this person paints.

The transition to death can be both frightening and painful. There are drugs, thankfully that can help ease some of that. As for those 'eyewitness reports of somewhere else' she claims are a privilege to receive, they are a consequence of things like cerebral hypoxia, delirium, and body system failures — none of which are a 'privilege' to witness, no matter what the dying person is experiencing or seeing.

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As I sat in my car, I continued to hear Randy's voice. He was saying: 'Oh my gosh, Julie. Oh my gosh, Julie. I can't believe this. I can't believe how good it is. If I had only known. I couldn't have known how good it is. I can't believe it.'
As I was hearing this, I could feel what he was feeling — the freedom, the peace, the joy. I was so overwhelmed by the feeling of home. It was the most unbelievable, unimaginable experience.

 

 She's a nutcase.  If an adult human cannot distinguish between their own thoughts and 'voices' in their head...there is something wrong in their head.

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40 minutes ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Death is hardly the rosy picture this person paints

What's wrong with complete rest? If you don't believe in anything else after we pass complete rest isn't bad.

 

42 minutes ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

The transition to death can be both frightening and painful.

Yeah that could be our transition but it's before death.

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I do believe we see our passed loved ones when we go but I don't know for sure, nor does anyone. Getting older I've lost my fear of dying completely, not because of my belief, I just don't have any fear of it. I think it's because there is nothing to fear.

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13 minutes ago, openozy said:

What's wrong with complete rest? If you don't believe in anything else after we pass complete rest isn't bad.

I was referring to the dying process. Obviously once you're dead, you're fine, in a manner of speaking.

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   Death does not scare me because I don’t think death exists.      Dying exists.   (..and if there is Life after death, is that Death?)   The thought of dying concerns me at times.. concern for me,  and my Loved ones.    

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1 hour ago, joc said:

She's a nutcase. 

To be fair, seeing someone die isn't the sanest time we have. You also don't know what happens for sure, you can't know.

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23 minutes ago, openozy said:

I do believe we see our passed loved ones when we go

I'll see b***** all then :D 

I have no fear of death though - no more than I fear falling asleep.   The cause of death might be a different matter!

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When my time comes, I hope I die in my sleep. 

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2 minutes ago, Essan said:

I'll see b***** all then :D 

If that's what you believe then you will see that as your brain shuts down, according to science. And we all know that scientist know everything :tu:.

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1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

When my time comes, I hope I die in my sleep. 

Sorry Xeno, sleep is only for the innocent 😇.

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When I go terminal, I want to go on a Safari and be left with a Brewsky and a fine Cigar in a camping chair and enjoy the laughing of the hyenas as they come in to rip me limb from limb in about 2 seconds.

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1 hour ago, joc said:

When I go terminal, I want to go on a Safari and be left with a Brewsky and a fine Cigar in a camping chair and enjoy the laughing of the hyenas as they come in to rip me limb from limb in about 2 seconds.

I laughed at that but yeah.

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My understanding is that at the time of death one astral body is losing its normally tight attachment to the physical body and astral vision begins. The spirits on the astral plane are welcoming and loving as a general rule. Death can be a wonderful and natural process. Materialist science and philosophy has made it seen depressing.

After all my study on the subject I look forward to my death as a grand expansion of my consciousness. But making the best of this life needs to happen first.

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3 hours ago, openozy said:

Sorry Xeno, sleep is only for the innocent 😇.

Sleep is practice for death.

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I think it’s cool  that each day is like a mini lifetime.   

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My wife worked in a hospital back in Scotland and sat with a few patients who were dying( they had no relations or friends near) this I always found extremely sad and proved just what a woman my wife was.The upside of this was the dying patient would often see a family or close friend(my wife assumed this) come to guide her away…..supernatural or the tricks of the brain idk but pretty eerie imo….

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22 minutes ago, Shadowsfall said:

My wife worked in a hospital back in Scotland and sat with a few patients who were dying( they had no relations or friends near) this I always found extremely sad and proved just what a woman my wife was.The upside of this was the dying patient would often see a family or close friend(my wife assumed this) come to guide her away…..supernatural or the tricks of the brain idk but pretty eerie imo….

It happens so much. Either way, paranormal or natural, people obviously often see someone already passed over there to guide them. A lot of the people are total non believing skeptics so you think they would deny it, they don't, they welcome it. It's a nice gesture from nature, or god, they are the same thing to me.

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4 minutes ago, openozy said:

It happens so much. Either way, paranormal or natural, people obviously often see someone already passed over there to guide them. A lot of the people are total non believing skeptics so you think they would deny it, they don't, they welcome it. It's a nice gesture from nature, or god, they are the same thing to me.

I think it helps everyone involved the dying and the remaining whether it’s real or not doesn’t matter imo…it’s real and helps them so win win..

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15 hours ago, openozy said:

nature, or god, they are the same thing to me.

western white-bearded wildebeest (connochaetes taurinus mearnsi) in the jaws of a nile crocodile (crocodylus niloticus) in river, mara triangle, maasai mara national reserve, narok, kenya, africa - crocodile attack stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images

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4 hours ago, Razman said:

western white-bearded wildebeest (connochaetes taurinus mearnsi) in the jaws of a nile crocodile (crocodylus niloticus) in river, mara triangle, maasai mara national reserve, narok, kenya, africa - crocodile attack stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images

Believe it or not, this kind of image absolutely clinched my atheism. What kind of God would allow this kind of thing to happen on his watch, let alone create the creatures who brutally tear each other apart just to live?

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1 hour ago, pellinore said:

Believe it or not, this kind of image absolutely clinched my atheism. What kind of God would allow this kind of thing to happen on his watch, let alone create the creatures who brutally tear each other apart just to live?

Sorry man , i wasn't trying to change your religious beliefs , but when you mentioned nature and God , i couldn't resist. I have often wondered why nature is such a rather violent thing. I mean maybe there's something else we don't understand about it , but one can't help but notice.

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I remember a long while ago watching national geographic and there was this desert spider that chased down a big beetle in the sand , and so it injects it with a venom that paralyzes the beetle but keeps it alive . Then it drags it back to its lair and impregnates its eggs into it , then the eggs hatch and eat the beetle alive inside out as they are growing. That show got me to wondering.

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1 hour ago, pellinore said:

Believe it or not, this kind of image absolutely clinched my atheism. What kind of God would allow this kind of thing to happen on his watch, let alone create the creatures who brutally tear each other apart just to live?

A god that created a natural order so that life can grow and adapt on this blue speck. If you take out your human desires and projections it's easy to understand. I'm agnostic, but an impersonal god is easier to understand. 

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