Jaime Maussan claims three more 'non-human entities' have been found

[UM-Bot]

The controversial UFO researcher has revealed that three more alleged alien bodies have been discovered.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/377663/jaime-maussan-claims-three-more-non-human-entities-have-been-found

[Cho Jinn]

There are definitely non-human, to be sure.  But in the way that, say, stucco drywall is "non-human".

[Zebra3]

They look like they're made of stucco.

[papageorge1]

When I was last discussing this subject I was at 95% that we are dealing with real specimens unknown to science. Since then the percentage has increased to 99% essentially a done deal in my mind. And my usual nemeses here were of course trying to scoff me out of existence.

Now, the name Jamie Maussan sets off red flags because he fell victim to a hoaxed case years back. Now, I think to really do this subject justice we should be looking at a slew of scientists more than focusing on a personality figure (Maussan). 

I've lost track of all the scientists and names I have seen on this since my last discussion on the forum. But with the hardest of skeptics ten more names will produce stronger irrational resistance.

Now as I've said before there is not the transparency and openness truth seekers would like to see because of politics and government agendas and disclosure politics. Another tactic employed by the skeptics is trying to confuse the serious specimens with some cobbled together specimens and place them all in the same basket. I suppose that effort will continue too.

But for me, I think the reality question has been pretty well answered. From the information I suspect alien involvement too as it doesn't seem to be a product of any terrestrial line. That should be an exciting thing for truth seekers to hear about.

 

[Oniomancer]

They should really hire that Japanese guy who does the paper mache fairy corpses. Hell, there's probably dozens of weekend hobby crafters on youtube who could do a more competent job.

[Antigonos]

9 minutes ago, Oniomancer said:

They should really hire that Japanese guy who does the paper mache fairy corpses. Hell, there's probably dozens of weekend hobby crafters on youtube who could do a more competent job.

As we see once again from Papa, such effort isn’t required to gull the credulous.

[+Liquid Gardens]

19 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Now, the name Jamie Maussan sets off red flags because he fell victim to a hoaxed case years back.

'Fell victim to' or 'helped create and perpetuate'?  And how do you know?

24 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Now, I think to really do this subject justice we should be looking at a slew of scientists more than focusing on a personality figure (Maussan). 

That'd be more rational if a slew of scientists was making a claim of having more bodies, whereas the OP just mentions Maussan saying this.

20 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I've lost track of all the scientists and names I have seen on this since my last discussion on the forum.

Yes, because as we all know the scientific method works by taking a vote among scientists. 

It is hilarious how oblivious you are to your double-standards.  You wave away the arguments of skeptics and scientists because of their supposed materialistic bias but want a proven hoax spreader's claims to be treated like he has no history.

[simplybill]

Just speculating here, but I think it’s likely that the people groups that practiced head-shaping also experimented with different skull shapes besides the common ‘elongated’ skulls, and possibly other skeletal modifications as well. The newly discovered misshapen skulls may be the results of their experimentation. 

[papageorge1]

10 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

'Fell victim to' or 'helped create and perpetuate'?  And how do you know?

That'd be more rational if a slew of scientists was making a claim of having more bodies, whereas the OP just mentions Maussan saying this.

Yes, because as we all know the scientific method works by taking a vote among scientists. 

It is hilarious how oblivious you are to your double-standards.  You wave away the arguments of skeptics and scientists because of their supposed materialistic bias but want a proven hoax spreader's claims to be treated like he has no history.

I was saying Maussan is really irrelevant at this point. But as he has a personality and history that can be attacked people want to keep the focus on him.

[Trelane]

I'm going to cover some of my old action figure in paper mache and claim I have proof of extraterrestrials.

Guys like Papa will pay big money to come and see my 'aliens'. 👽

[preacherman76]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

When I was last discussing this subject I was at 95% that we are dealing with real specimens unknown to science. Since then the percentage has increased to 99% essentially a done deal in my mind. And my usual nemeses here were of course trying to scoff me out of existence.

Now, the name Jamie Maussan sets off red flags because he fell victim to a hoaxed case years back. Now, I think to really do this subject justice we should be looking at a slew of scientists more than focusing on a personality figure (Maussan). 

I've lost track of all the scientists and names I have seen on this since my last discussion on the forum. But with the hardest of skeptics ten more names will produce stronger irrational resistance.

Now as I've said before there is not the transparency and openness truth seekers would like to see because of politics and government agendas and disclosure politics. Another tactic employed by the skeptics is trying to confuse the serious specimens with some cobbled together specimens and place them all in the same basket. I suppose that effort will continue too.

But for me, I think the reality question has been pretty well answered. From the information I suspect alien involvement too as it doesn't seem to be a product of any terrestrial line. That should be an exciting thing for truth seekers to hear about.

 

You are 99% sure that thing is a real alien? Like seriously??

[Trelane]

29 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I was saying Maussan is really irrelevant at this point. But as he has a personality and history that can be attacked people want to keep the focus on him.

Because he was knowingly and willingly involved in a scheme where items cobbled together and were peddled as "alien remains". On multiple occasions I might add.

 

[papageorge1]

15 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

You are 99% sure that thing is a real alien? Like seriously??

Yes, seriously. Have you been following the developments?

[papageorge1]

8 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Because he was knowingly and willingly involved in a scheme where items cobbled together and were peddled as "alien remains". On multiple occasions I might add.

 

So these have passed scientific scrutiny. Maussan's disputed history is irrelevant to me at this point.

[Trelane]

13 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

So these have passed scientific scrutiny. Maussan's disputed history is irrelevant to me at this point.

The ones from 2015 and 2016 and 2017 have. All fakes and frauds. His history isn't disputed, he is a known and exposed fraudster.

So if a person is known and repeated hoaxer, you accept another hilariously awful attempt at face value? Papa, I know you're not that dumb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Maussan

"Maussan was involved in publicizing a specimen dubbed "Metepec Creature", which later turned out to be a skinned monkey, as well as a "Demon Fairy" in 2016, which turned out be the remains of a bat, wooden sticks, epoxy, and other unknown elements.[1]

"In 2015, Maussan led an event called "Be Witness" where a mummified body claimed to be an alien child was unveiled. The mummified corpse was later identified as a human child.[3]

"In 2017, Maussan appeared in a video hosted by Gaia, Inc. where a mummified body supposedly discovered in Peru near the Nazca lines claimed to be "a three-fingered alien" was unveiled.[3]

"A 2017 report by the Peruvian prosecutor’s office stated that supposed alien bodies promoted by Maussan were actually “recently manufactured dolls, which have been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic glue to simulate the presence of skin.”[4]"

Edited June 7 by Trelane

[preacherman76]

15 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Yes, seriously. Have you been following the developments?

Dude that thing look like it was chiseled from a piece of stucco. It looks incredibly fake. 
 

I haven’t seen anything in the story that gives it any credibility. But I don’t know any more than that. 

[+Liquid Gardens]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

But as he has a personality and history that can be attacked people want to keep the focus on him.

Or, to continue to just believe what a proven hoax spreader claims is the very definition of 'gullibility'.  There's no one else stepping forward to 'focus on' and curiously the scientific case for your beliefs on this have not moved since we talked about this months ago which should be a giant red flag.  

51 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

So these have passed scientific scrutiny.

Reference to a peer-reviewed scientific journal demonstrating your claim above, please.  Why aren't actual scientists here also agreeing with your claim above? This is after all pretty much the greatest historical discovery ever if true.

[papageorge1]

26 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

 

Reference to a peer-reviewed scientific journal demonstrating your claim above, please.  Why aren't actual scientists here also agreeing with your claim above? This is after all pretty much the greatest historical discovery ever if true.

I am on another forum that tracks various things more closely. I am no scientist but this says: Assessment: Double Blind Review pelo SEER/OIS

Link 

Link https://preview.redd.it/first-scientific-paper-of-tridactyl-humanoid-specimen-maria-v0-essmcfcpol3d1.png?width=1654&format=png&auto=webp&s=68f0d453b8a16bd5754553968bee4c59099c61e5

Edited June 7 by papageorge1

[Trelane]

7 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I am on another forum that tracks various things more closely. I am no scientist but this says: Assessment: Double Blind Review pelo SEER/OIS

Link https://preview.redd.it/first-scientific-paper-of-tridactyl-humanoid-specimen-maria-v0-essmcfcpol3d1.png?width=1654&format=png&auto=webp&s=68f0d453b8a16bd5754553968bee4c59099c61e5

Your link only links to Reddit post that only provides that same image of a cover sheet. I'll dig into this when I have a little more time. However, it's not promising since two of the names have been directly linked to Maussan. Soooo, yeah probably not double-blind peer reviewed.

[papageorge1]

2 hours ago, Trelane said:

I'm going to cover some of my old action figure in paper mache and claim I have proof of extraterrestrials.

Guys like Papa will pay big money to come and see my 'aliens'. 👽

Showed a paper just above.

Here's additional opinions

I'm on another website and have seen multiple things of similar character.

But some maybe be gullible for the hoax conclusion they want to hear???

[papageorge1]

1 minute ago, Trelane said:

Your link only links to Reddit post that only provides that same image of a cover sheet. I'll dig into this when I have a little more time. However, it's not promising since two of the names have been directly linked to Maussan. Soooo, yeah probably not double-blind peer reviewed.

No of course not.

[Trelane]

1 minute ago, papageorge1 said:

No of course not.

Papa, based on the totality, or as you often say "Consistency, Quantity and Quality" of Maussan's deliberate shenanigans and hoaxing it is certainly reasonable for anyone to remain skeptical.

[papageorge1]

5 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Your link only links to Reddit post that only provides that same image of a cover sheet. I'll dig into this when I have a little more time. However, it's not promising since two of the names have been directly linked to Maussan. Soooo, yeah probably not double-blind peer reviewed.

Anyway the very title of the discussion gave the link

https://doi.org/10.24857/rgsa.v18n5-137

[papageorge1]

3 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Papa, based on the totality, or as you often say "Consistency, Quantity and Quality" of Maussan's deliberate shenanigans and hoaxing it is certainly reasonable for anyone to remain skeptical.

I was skeptical. But I am not irrationally resistant to evidence to the contrary.

[papageorge1]

Here's now the DNA evidence. Note the later guy interviewed at first tought they were fake mummies, but changed his mind.