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Was Helen of Troy really Jewish…


The Puzzler

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For some reason this image harks at me…

Why has this artist pained Helen’s hair like this? Frederick Sandys

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By Jewish, of the day, I mean Phoenician or even Ligurian…auburn hair. Nit blonde, not black, not even brown but reddish brown. 

 

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1 minute ago, Essan said:

Looks Scottish to me  :P    

It does, not not all hair this colour is Scottish, that modern day thought, why would a painter paint Helen with Scottish hair if you like?

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1 minute ago, Ell said:

He may have had a hair fetish?

I should have known better to start of topic on this…a hair fetish…you’re hilarious. 

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2 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

By Jewish, of the day, I mean Phoenician or even Ligurian…auburn hair. Nit blonde, not black, not even brown but reddish brown. 

 

Auburn hair is common among the Indo-Aryans and Cimmerians, which is what the Luwians were 

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5 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

Oh for ****’s sake

Nah, it’s personal…my Mum had true auburn hair, not red or Scottish red, ginger but like  Ligurian auburn…it’s not dyed, her colour is natural here….me kid here…

My mtDNA is K….like my Mum obviously…showing Jewish root.

****s sake your way away, these are real questions I ponder. If your not interested, F off for sure.

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Red hair is the Mark of Cain.  It is linked to Neanderthal DNA.  The ginger that launched a thousand ships?  Seems unlikely to me, unless they were going in the opposite direction.  😉

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I’ll repeat it, in case you missed it…

Ligurian tribes, now shorn, in ancient days

First of the long-haired nations, on whose necks

Once flowed the auburn locks in pride supreme.

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4 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

Red hair is the Mark of Cain.  It is linked to Neanderthal DNA.  The ginger that launched a thousand ships?  Seems unlikely to me, unless they were going in the opposite direction.  😉

Auburn is not red hair, it’s brown red…it’s not ginger, it’s Ligurian. trying to avoid the stereo types…

Ligurian could well be Jewish not Scottish red.

Why do Ligurians have auburn locks….are they Scottish, do they have the mark of Cain….?

Ligurian tribes, now shorn, in ancient days

First of the long-haired nations, on whose necks

Once flowed the auburn locks in pride supreme.

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Why do Ligurians have auburn locks?

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1 minute ago, Alchopwn said:

Red hair is the Mark of Cain.  It is linked to Neanderthal DNA.  The ginger that launched a thousand ships?  Seems unlikely to me, unless they were going in the opposite direction.  😉

She, Briseis and Andromache obviously must have been Irish.

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Here is Cassandra of Troy…

Like I just see this consistently…

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1 minute ago, Antigonos said:

She, Briseis and Andromache obviously must have been Irish.

Obviously. And Cassandra too, see above pic.

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24 minutes ago, Piney said:

Auburn hair is common among the Indo-Aryans and Cimmerians, which is what the Luwians were 

At least you gave a good answer. Luwians may have been auburn hey, ok, worth checking out..can you cite your statement?m

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Just now, The Puzzler said:

At least you gave a good answer. Luwians may have been auburn hey, ok, worth checking out..can you cite your statement?m

Every ancient historian who ever wrote about the IE Steppe Nomads reported they had reddish auburn hair. 

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So, Ligurians had auburn hair, where did they get that?

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1 minute ago, The Puzzler said:

So, Ligurians had auburn hair, where did they get that?

The were probably IE.

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It was never as auburn as my Mums but at 55 it’s still quite luscious, with no grey hair….my friends are so jealous,  lol it’s a serious subject.

could Helen of Troy had good K hair genes, not Scottish……Ligurian but maybe Jewish? 

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19 minutes ago, Piney said:

The were probably IE.

IE…you’ll have to do better than that, Which IE…or a common denominator…people with auburn hair were an IE Scythian Yamana type…

I dont disagree, but more clarity would be good. Sure, Melania Trump has hair my colour. Where does this mousy brown with red..ie Auburn…literally…not white, Alba..specifically with red tones come from? Germany?

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OK, enough hair trivialities.

Could Helen of Sparta be Jewish?

What I’m seeing is not the word but the concept of Phoenicians being in Greece in late Mycenaean times, 

At Sparta.

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11 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

It was never as auburn as my Mums but at 55 it’s still quite luscious, with no grey hair….my friends are so jealous,  lol it’s a serious subject.

could Helen of Troy had good K hair genes, not Scottish……Ligurian but maybe Jewish? 

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The haplogroup K  isn't specifically "Jewish". Just found among them.

11 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

IE…you’ll have to do better than that, Which IE…or a common denominator…people with auburn hair were an IE Scythian Yamana type…

I do t disagree, but mor clarity would be good.

Scythian and Yamaya

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