Multiple video clips show brightly lit UFO flying over streets of Tehran

[MrAnderson]

On 7/1/2024 at 10:24 AM, preacherman76 said:

Here bats goes off to make believe land again. Not one part of this post is accurate. 

It's more of a classical way to dismiss the alleged events by renaming sightings as 'beliefs' and throwing a few strawman arguments at the conversation. I recall that even observations which are integral parts of the scientific process have been renamed as beliefs when the UFO phenomenon is discussed. If it's not beliefs then it's misidentifications, meteors, stars, weather balloons. It's like denying everything because people can't accept there are unexplained events beyond human control.

[MrAnderson]

On 6/25/2024 at 9:56 PM, preacherman76 said:

My point was a few people here mentioned it was poor quality, easy to do, and one said they could reproduce it in 10 minutes. None of that was true. I was hoping to hear an opinion on why they were so certain it was CGI, and it seems to me they shouldn’t have been as confident as they appeared to be. 
 

Of course it’s possible, even likely it was CGI. I was just hoping to learn something about it. Now I’m certain that had I been able to film the saucer I witnessed I would have been accused of the same thing. If they would be wrong about that, it’s possible they are wrong about this one as well. That’s all. 

It could have been a CGI video. We don't know yet.

But like you said, if you were to produce a genuine video then again you could be accused it's CGI. It's highly likely some posters will come up with this explanation because there are no unexplained phenomena in their minds.

[MrAnderson]

On 6/28/2024 at 9:46 AM, preacherman76 said:

Nor is it to you. As you have already admitted. 

Some things are obvious, other things are less obvious. It is obvious there is something in the skies that remains unexplained and it has been here for long time imo. To me (and to many others) it's more than obvious and denying it doesn't help solving the mystery. Maybe it can be explained with the way humans behave, to reject things they can't understand and are way beyond their control. I am ok and comfortable with the fact that I can't explain everything and I am not in control of many things around me.

[ChrLzs]

On 7/10/2024 at 7:47 PM, MrAnderson said:

It could have been a CGI video. We don't know yet.

Ya think?  Have you not noticed that there have been NO, none, nada, zilch, videos from any other source than that which posted the original videos and then went off to hide.  No dashcams, no security cameras, no pilots or aircraft passengers, no other people who went back over their shots for that night.  In a city of 9 million people, early evening.

Mmmhmm.  Oh, that's right - Youtube is deleting them instantly, and of course YT is the only place you can see videos..... 

 

But do feel free to keep hoping it's real.

On 7/10/2024 at 7:47 PM, MrAnderson said:

But like you said, if you were to produce a genuine video then again you could be accused it's CGI. It's highly likely some posters will come up with this explanation because there are no unexplained phenomena in their minds.

This is just utterly lame.  A true UFO case will involve a lot more than easily created low-res CGI.  Just think about all that is missing from this case (and if you don't know what is missing, re-read the previous paragraphs and THINK).  What is your threshold of proof?  Give us a few examples.  I've given mine on other threads, but forgive me if I don't repeat that criteria. 

Teach a person to fish, and ... well you know how it goes.  I can supply a drink, but you've got to bend down and take it......  

Edited July 11 by ChrLzs

[MrAnderson]

19 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

Ya think?  Have you notticed that there have been NO, none, nada, zilch, videos from any other source than that which posted the original videos and then went off to hide.  No dashcams, no security cameras, no pilots or aircraft passengers, no other people who went back over their shots for that night.  In a city of 9 million people, early evening.

Mmmhmm.  Oh, that's right - Youtube is deleting them instantly, and of course YT is the only place you can see videos..... 

 

But do feel free to keep hoping it's real.

This is just utterly lame.  A true UFO case will involve a lot more than easily created low-res CGI.  Just think about all that is missing from this case (and if you don't know what is missing, re-read the previous paragraphs and THINK).  What is your threshold of proof?  Give us a few examples.  I've given mine on other threads, but forgive me if I don't repeat that criteria. 

Teach a person to fish, and ... well you know how it goes.  I can supply a drink, but you've got to bend down and take it......  

You ve asked me again the same question!! Give you examples? Have you heard of the UFO phenomenon or is it new to you completely? There is a lot of evidence on UFOs. Pick and choose whichever to think it's convincing.

The argument you made that for a UFO incident to be believable there must be a mass sighting is a new threshold as you raise the bar. UFOs can be witnessed by a singled person or multiple witnesses.

 

[ChrLzs]

I didn't ask for examples.  I asked just for one - the best one.  YOU are making the claim.  If we pick the claim, you'll just say "oh what about this one then"...  So PICK YOUR BEST EVIDENCE - we are not idiots.

Frankly, this sort of avoidance just shows you don't have expertise - quite rightly you are afraid that your best choice will get a roasting, and it will be obvious you are just an amateur at all this.  If you know your stuff, you should be able to easily defend your favourite, and imagine the credibility that would involve!  So.. grow a set.

 

You might get away with handwaving and avoiding actual debate elsewhere, but NOT here, especially on the other thread....(isn't that right, sky?)  Anyway, I'll just keep asking. 

[MrAnderson]

3 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

I didn't ask for examples.  I asked just for one - the best one.  YOU are making the claim.  If we pick the claim, you'll just say "oh what about this one then"...  So PICK YOUR BEST EVIDENCE - we are not idiots.

Frankly, this sort of avoidance just shows you don't have expertise - quite rightly you are afraid that your best choice will get a roasting, and it will be obvious you are just an amateur at all this.  If you know your stuff, you should be able to easily defend your favourite, and imagine the credibility that would involve!  So.. grow a set.

 

You might get away with handwaving and avoiding actual debate elsewhere, but NOT here, especially on the other thread....(isn't that right, sky?)  Anyway, I'll just keep asking. 

I don't have to defend anything because I am not into a defending position and neither I am accused of anything as far as I know.

If you think that I will start discussing the cases already discussed a million times you are wrong. The expectable reaction from skeptics is to deny most of what is presented or to claim meteors, stars, weather balloons, hallucinations of witnesses. I don't have time to waste.

In these threads everyone expresses their personal opinions, that's all. Since the UFO phenomenon is real and we don't have conclusive evidence as to the origin of these objects (or some of these objects) your opinion is no more valid then the opinion of anyone else. The possibility that some of them have alien origin is there (like I said many times).

All you have is denying everything presented. That's not skepticism.

[Zebra3]

32 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

I don't have to defend anything because I am not into a defending position and neither I am accused of anything as far as I know.

If you think that I will start discussing the cases already discussed a million times you are wrong. The expectable reaction from skeptics is to deny most of what is presented or to claim meteors, stars, weather balloons, hallucinations of witnesses. I don't have time to waste.

In these threads everyone expresses their personal opinions, that's all. Since the UFO phenomenon is real and we don't have conclusive evidence as to the origin of these objects (or some of these objects) your opinion is no more valid then the opinion of anyone else. The possibility that some of them have alien origin is there (like I said many times).

All you have is denying everything presented. That's not skepticism.

Told you.

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Zebra3 said:

Told you.

It's expectable. Denying and dismissing everything. Not what we call skepticism. But who cares. You have your views and that's what matters at the end of the day. There are many more people who are very open minded and don't deny everything. You can discuss with them.

[Trelane]

Has there been any further information released regarding this event?

[Hazzard]

9 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Has there been any further information released regarding this event?

For something of this magnitude 🛸 its been awfully quiet. 

[ChrLzs]

On 7/16/2024 at 5:10 AM, Hazzard said:

For something of this magnitude 🛸 its been awfully quiet. 

AFAICS, no new videos have been added, and the 'owners' of the video set has gone to ground.  No dashcam footage.  No building security footage.  No footage from any hobby astronomers.  No footage from commercial aircraft pilots or passengers.  No new videos from any others on the same night, or since.

How unexpected.  How strange.  It's almost as if there *wasn't* an actual ufo flying over the 8.5 million residents of Tehran that night...

{/sarcasm}

[astrobeing]

13 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

AFAICS, no new videos have been added, and the 'owners' of the video set has gone to ground.  No dashcam footage.  No building security footage.  No footage from any hobby astronomers.  No footage from commercial aircraft pilots or passengers.  No new videos from any others on the same night, or since.

How unexpected.  How strange.  It's almost as if there *wasn't* an actual ufo flying over the 8.5 million residents of Tehran that night...

{/sarcasm}

Don't give up! The summer isn't half over and I'm sure these guys (or guy) are working hard to come up with more exciting footage of huge bright UFOs flying over major cities all over the world!