preacherman76 Posted June 13 #26 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, astrobeing said: I agree. The country that launched missiles at Israel a few weeks ago doesn't care about something flying over their capital? We haven’t heard anything out of Iran, so we have no idea what their response may or may not have been. Assuming of course this really happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted June 13 #27 Share Posted June 13 20 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: We haven’t heard anything out of Iran, so we have no idea what their response may or may not have been. Assuming of course this really happened. There is a perfectly good reason why no one has heard anything about it (from Iran)... Nothing happened. It fake as F 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 13 #28 Share Posted June 13 45 minutes ago, Hazzard said: There is a perfectly good reason why no one has heard anything about it (from Iran)... Nothing happened. It fake as F Or maybe they are scrambling trying to figure out what the hell it was. Maybe they are quite because it would be an embarrassment this thing flew over their capital without them being able to knock it down. Hell maybe they weren’t even able to see it with the technology they have. Strange how the first interesting potential sighting comes to the boards in a long time……. Er never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted June 13 #29 Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Hell maybe they weren’t even able to see it with the technology they have. You mean with their eyes? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 13 #30 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, astrobeing said: You mean with their eyes? Eyes are not technology, they're Nature. Do you routinely respond out-of-context with nonsense? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted June 13 #31 Share Posted June 13 16 hours ago, Hazzard said: So.. in a couple of weeks when this has been run through the savvy tech guys (experts in the field) and the verdict is fake/CGI... then what? Cover-up? From my post; "think I'll wait till someone steps up, and admits they flew synchronized drones. Until then I'm going with unknown." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 13 #32 Share Posted June 13 (edited) @Trelane What's the confusion of my post? preacherman76 post included a simple inference that maybe Iran doesn't possess the technological capabilities to detect some UAP events (I don't think this one is real) It is a fair comment. His comment had nothing to do with viewing it with one's eyes. Edited June 13 by pallidin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted June 13 #33 Share Posted June 13 13 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said: From my post; "think I'll wait till someone steps up, and admits they flew synchronized drones. Until then I'm going with unknown." Well duh, I would go with 100% not " synchronized" drones the object appears two low and small for one, If someone claimed it was more than one RC craft I would have to see them prove it in a new video. So maybe you will get your desperately needed got cha on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted June 13 #34 Share Posted June 13 15 minutes ago, pallidin said: @Trelane What's the confusion of my post? preacherman76 post included a simple inference that maybe Iran doesn't possess the technological capabilities to detect some UAP events (I don't think this one is real) It is a fair comment. His comment had nothing to do with viewing it with one's eyes. The way I took it was no technology was needed to see what was presented in the videos. The remark about Irans tech couldn't see it was moot, we have four videos that do show it whatever it might be, and at this point I'll go with likely CGI AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 14 #35 Share Posted June 14 3 hours ago, the13bats said: The way I took it was no technology was needed to see what was presented in the videos. The remark about Irans tech couldn't see it was moot, we have four videos that do show it whatever it might be, and at this point I'll go with likely CGI AI. 3 hours ago, the13bats said: The way I took it was no technology was needed to see what was presented in the videos. The remark about Irans tech couldn't see it was moot, we have four videos that do show it whatever it might be, and at this point I'll go with likely CGI AI. No technology needed? Why not? Visual accounts are great, and do help,, but much more "suggestively validated" through standard and military technological sources where possible. Even aerial investigative intercepts strongly effort for multi-mode recording of a UAP event. That's just a standard investigative metric for UAP's in a bunch of words. For example, lack of a radar or IR signature does nothing to support a visual-only UFO claim, so they are important when available. In fact, that lack itself (when available) could indicate hoax. Most everyone knows that, of course. It can also indicate local failure to possess multi-mode technology and actually employ it in this type case, or that the local tech was jammed or disabled. Any number of very valid reasons to desire tech angles to this type issue. I think this one is a hoax, as you know, so I agree with you and other's on that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted June 14 #36 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, pallidin said: No technology needed? Why not? Visual accounts are great, and do help,, but much more "suggestively validated" through standard and military technological sources where possible. Even aerial investigative intercepts strongly effort for multi-mode recording of a UAP event. That's just a standard investigative metric for UAP's in a bunch of words. For example, lack of a radar or IR signature does nothing to support a visual-only UFO claim, so they are important when available. In fact, that lack itself (when available) could indicate hoax. Most everyone knows that, of course. It can also indicate local failure to possess multi-mode technology and actually employ it in this type case, or that the local tech was jammed or disabled. Any number of very valid reasons to desire tech angles to this type issue. I think this one is a hoax, as you know, so I agree with you and other's on that point. But that wasn't the believers agenda his agenda was to suggest these aliens could trick Irans tech so as not to be detected kind of lame after its been videoed four times. Sure an alien race intelligence enough to get here just might have that type of ability so then if the only way to confirm them is old school visual then so be it, and rest assured if this craft was of any concern whatsoever then irans military would have been all over it. In the context of this threads claims it has every redflag of mediocre hoax and pretty much nothing to suggest it's anything other than that, I'm still waiting for why the same person has all four videos together and that's the only source , for a thing flying around town we should have 100s of videos we don't. Over on the cape they launch all kinds of stuff and my FB is full of people who got pics that should apply here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 14 #37 Share Posted June 14 Indeed. Good points all around! And that hoax, to me, wasn't even very good in my opinion. Like you said... "mediocre" I've made-up my mind on this one. If new info comes out I'll be listening to keep things fair I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted June 14 #38 Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, pallidin said: Indeed. Good points all around! And that hoax, to me, wasn't even very good in my opinion. Like you said... "mediocre" I've made-up my mind on this one. If new info comes out I'll be listening to keep things fair I suppose. I'm not at all sure it it's CGI or an actual thing flying I now lean to CGI because no one but the camera man seems to have seen it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 14 #39 Share Posted June 14 Just now, the13bats said: I'm not at all sure it it's CGI or an actual thing flying I now lean to CGI because no one but the camera man seems to have seen it. Exactly. That is the most critical point in this so-called UFO event. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 14 #40 Share Posted June 14 And as everyone knows, I believe in UFO's, just not this one... Go figure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted June 14 #41 Share Posted June 14 22 minutes ago, pallidin said: And as everyone knows, I believe in UFO's, just not this one... Go figure. UFOs are very real by definition but I don't jump from unknown to must be aliens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 14 #42 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, the13bats said: UFOs are very real by definition but I don't jump from unknown to must be aliens. See? Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted June 14 #43 Share Posted June 14 13 hours ago, pallidin said: @Trelane What's the confusion of my post? preacherman76 post included a simple inference that maybe Iran doesn't possess the technological capabilities to detect some UAP events (I don't think this one is real) It is a fair comment. His comment had nothing to do with viewing it with one's eyes. I think you may have missed the thru line of @astrobeing's comments. There are limited reactions available, so that was the best choice.😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 14 #44 Share Posted June 14 12 hours ago, the13bats said: But that wasn't the believers agenda his agenda I have no agenda. Was just talking about this interesting video. Nor do I believe anything about it. In fact between the two of us, you are the only true believer here. 12 hours ago, the13bats said: was to suggest these aliens could trick Irans tech so as not to be detected kind of lame after its been videoed four times. I never suggested anything about aliens. I don’t believe aliens exist. 12 hours ago, the13bats said: Sure an alien race intelligence enough to get here just might have that type of ability so then if the only way to confirm them is old school visual then so be it, and rest assured if this craft was of any concern whatsoever then irans military would have been all over it. In the context of this threads claims it has every redflag of mediocre hoax and pretty much nothing to suggest it's anything other than that, So could technology from another country. We have all kinds of tech that can avoid radar detection. Maybe Iran military was “all over” it. Maybe it avoided capture. Maybe it was knocked down. 12 hours ago, the13bats said: I'm still waiting for why the same person has all four videos together and that's the only source , for a thing flying around town we should have 100s of videos we don't. Over on the cape they launch all kinds of stuff and my FB is full of people who got pics that should apply here. Why should it apply? We don’t know what time this was. Could have been one in the morning when most people slept. There are at least two more from the 4 we see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 14 #45 Share Posted June 14 9 hours ago, the13bats said: UFOs are very real by definition but I don't jump from unknown to must be aliens. Nor has anyone else here. Why do you keep bringing aliens into this? No one said anything about aliens till you brought it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted June 14 #46 Share Posted June 14 17 hours ago, pallidin said: Eyes are not technology, they're Nature. Do you routinely respond out-of-context with nonsense? Well I've only been able to see with my eyes. What technology do you use? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 14 #47 Share Posted June 14 Just now, astrobeing said: Well I've only been able to see with my eyes. What technology do you use? The suggestion was that Iran wouldn’t have tolerated such a violation of air space. I suggested that maybe Irans technology couldn’t detect the object. which of course would have been necessary in order to launch an attack on said object. Unless of course you think they have anti aircraft weapons just sitting in the streets of Tehran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted June 14 #48 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, preacherman76 said: The suggestion was that Iran wouldn’t have tolerated such a violation of air space. I suggested that maybe Irans technology couldn’t detect the object. which of course would have been necessary in order to launch an attack on said object. Unless of course you think they have anti aircraft weapons just sitting in the streets of Tehran. No, believe it or not, pilots can maneuver their planes to pursue a flying object using only their eyes. And yes after Iraq launched Scud missile at Iran during their long war I would certainly believe their capital still has air defenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 14 #49 Share Posted June 14 Just now, astrobeing said: No, believe it or not, pilots can maneuver their planes to pursue a flying object using only their eyes. And yes after Iraq launched Scud missile at Iran during their long war I would certainly believe their capital still has air defenses. But where are the planes starting from? If they aren’t seeing the object from the runway….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 14 #50 Share Posted June 14 Anyhow, this is a waste. If you can’t recognize military’s often see things through technology, and don’t completely rely on their eyes, well you have a lot to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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