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2-in-1 shot for flu and COVID shows promise in advanced trial


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An experimental two-in-one vaccine triggered strong immune responses against both the flu and SARS-CoV-2, the virus behind COVID-19, in an advanced clinical trial that included adults ages 50 and older.  

The ongoing clinical trial pits this new combination shot, called mRNA-1083, against several licensed vaccines that protect against either COVID-19 or the flu. Compared with these separate vaccines, the combo shot produced "significantly higher immune responses" to three subtypes of flu and to the coronavirus, the pharmaceutical company Moderna, which developed the vaccine, announced Monday (June 10).

These results haven't yet been reviewed by scientists outside of Moderna. The company plans to present the data at an upcoming medical conference and to publish the results in a scientific journal. 

https://www.livescience.com/health/medicine-drugs/2-in-1-shot-for-flu-and-covid-shows-promise-in-advanced-trial

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Wow, that's quick because just a few weeks ago the covid jabs had shown 1 in 800 acute issues with no handle on the number of chronic cases because excess deaths where jabs have been given is way out of kilter and growing while countries where jabs weren't given out have not had an excess deaths problem.

Now they say they've fixed it all? With the double blind test data completely screwed over as well. 

Amazing science that!

Lots of posters here call me a conspiracy theorist so ignore me and get this jab folks. Line-up, roll up your sleeve,.make sure your mask is on, and don't worry at all about spike protein ls in your myocardial tissue, because the conspiracy theorists don't know what they are talking about.

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Until basic research is done on the epidemiological evidence in the excess deaths, I don't give a damn what anyone else tries to claim about the vaccines.  Those excess deaths are real, they aren't going away and no one seem interested in doing ANYTHING to establish whether or not the vaccines might be involved.

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16 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

excess deaths where jabs have been given is way out of kilter and growing while countries where jabs weren't given out have not had an excess deaths problem.

Can you provide a source for the claim that anomalous excess deaths have only occurred in countries in which the jabs have been given out ?

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In Burundi nearly no-one got vaccinated.

https://pandem-ic.com/the-50-least-vaccinated-countries-in-the-world/

 

In Burundi the number of deaths per thousand people steadily decreases between 2000 and 2019 from 16 to about 8.

This decrease does not continue in subsequent years but remains stable at around 8.

The Burundi government claims 14 people died from covid19 in two years time.  (According to the WHO over 9300.)

Since in earlier years more people died, by definition during covid19 times there were no excess deaths in this nearly unvaccinated country.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?locations=BI

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1 hour ago, Saru said:

Can you provide a source for the claim that anomalous excess deaths have only occurred in countries in which the jabs have been given out ?

Start with this one if you like: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202302.0350/v1

But it is dated now because the link is proven across 47 countries to date.

Google throws up dozens and dozens of sources.

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48 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Start with this one if you like: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202302.0350/v1

This study doesn't back up your claim that anomalous excess deaths have only occurred in countries in which the jabs have been given out.

It only covers 31 countries in Europe and every single one of them had vaccine rollouts.

It's also not a peer-reviewed study and it does not provide any evidence of causation.

55 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Google throws up dozens and dozens of sources.

Then you should be able to provide several examples.

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1 hour ago, Ell said:

In Burundi nearly no-one got vaccinated.

https://pandem-ic.com/the-50-least-vaccinated-countries-in-the-world/

In Burundi the number of deaths per thousand people steadily decreases between 2000 and 2019 from 16 to about 8.

This decrease does not continue in subsequent years but remains stable at around 8.

That is just the regular death rate, it is not a record of excess deaths.

If anything, the fact that the decrease in deaths stops around the pandemic, shows that there was an uptick in deaths during that time.

1 hour ago, Ell said:

Since in earlier years more people died, by definition during covid19 times there were no excess deaths in this nearly unvaccinated country.

We don't have a reliable statistic for the number of excess deaths in Burundi, so it's impossible to conclude a correlation with vaccination uptake one way or the other.

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