UM-Bot Posted June 18, 2024 #1 Share Posted June 18, 2024 The phenomenon has been hailed as a miracle, prompting an investigation by church officials. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/377911/virgin-mary-statue-cries-tears-of-blood-at-church-in-mexico 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 18, 2024 #2 Share Posted June 18, 2024 I have seen enough evidence of Marian miracles to believe it is a legitimate paranormal phenomenon. Skeptics never. Debating the details will go nowhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted June 18, 2024 #3 Share Posted June 18, 2024 Pork fat. Somebody has to say it. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 18, 2024 #4 Share Posted June 18, 2024 1 hour ago, eight bits said: Pork fat. Somebody has to say it. Didn't you already debunk this? Or was it another one? 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted June 18, 2024 #5 Share Posted June 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Piney said: Didn't you already debunk this? Or was it another one? I think we've had a few of these. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post XenoFish Posted June 18, 2024 Popular Post #6 Share Posted June 18, 2024 2 hours ago, papageorge1 said: I have seen enough evidence of Marian miracles to believe it is a legitimate paranormal phenomenon. Wow. I. Did. Not. See. This. Coming. 2 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Piney Posted June 18, 2024 Popular Post #7 Share Posted June 18, 2024 5 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Wow. I. Did. Not. See. This. Coming. Really! Neither did I!!!! 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted June 18, 2024 #8 Share Posted June 18, 2024 The story says that this one started leaking June 2nd, so this is yet another one. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted June 18, 2024 #9 Share Posted June 18, 2024 Why would the Blessed Mother be shedding tears of blood? I thought Jesus said, “It is finished” on the cross? That (according to Christian beliefs) is an indication that Gods perfect plan of redemption was complete, Jesus died for the sins of all the world so we could all be saved. It seems she would be crying tears of joy if this were true, not tears of blood. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 18, 2024 #10 Share Posted June 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Guyver said: Why would the Blessed Mother be shedding tears of blood? I thought Jesus said, “It is finished” on the cross? That (according to Christian beliefs) is an indication that Gods perfect plan of redemption was complete, Jesus died for the sins of all the world so we could all be saved. It seems she would be crying tears of joy if this were true, not tears of blood. And it's the Virgin of Guadalupe. She's not Mary. She's the "Cathlolicized" Mother Corn (Tonantzin) 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted June 18, 2024 #11 Share Posted June 18, 2024 People need that 15 minutes of fame. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Piney Posted June 18, 2024 Popular Post #12 Share Posted June 18, 2024 45 minutes ago, XenoFish said: People need that 15 minutes of fame. "Family owned church" says everything. 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted June 18, 2024 #13 Share Posted June 18, 2024 6 hours ago, papageorge1 said: I have seen enough evidence of Marian miracles to believe it is a legitimate paranormal phenomenon. Skeptics never. Debating the details will go nowhere. You would have quickly gone broke buying fake holy relics during the Middle Ages. 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted June 18, 2024 #14 Share Posted June 18, 2024 28 minutes ago, Antigonos said: You would have quickly gone broke buying fake holy relics during the Middle Ages. Seems to me he does more selling 'round here than buying 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 18, 2024 #15 Share Posted June 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, eight bits said: Seems to me he does more selling 'round here than buying I don't know how someone can believe conflicting "channelers" and conflicting spiritual ideas. It's lunacy. 😳 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted June 19, 2024 #16 Share Posted June 19, 2024 6 hours ago, Piney said: I don't know how someone can believe conflicting "channelers" and conflicting spiritual ideas. It's lunacy. 😳 Unless each person is on an individual path, yet has to interact with others, so it seems like lunacy. IOW, in general fortune tellers, card readers, palm readers, astrologists, et al, should all be chalked up to crazy, except for one thing.. every time I have used them, they have been right on in my life. So, I guess I’m on a hot streak, and the odds are in my favor?! Whew. Unless I just jinxed it and now I’m headed for another low. Wait, I’m in a low now….it’s all good. I’m going to come through the low and have another high…eventually. The point being that things work for people sometimes. Even if it’s the power of suggestion. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted June 19, 2024 #17 Share Posted June 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Guyver said: Unless each person is on an individual path, yet has to interact with others, so it seems like lunacy. IOW, in general fortune tellers, card readers, palm readers, astrologists, et al, should all be chalked up to crazy, except for one thing.. every time I have used them, they have been right on in my life. So, I guess I’m on a hot streak, and the odds are in my favor?! Whew. Unless I just jinxed it and now I’m headed for another low. Wait, I’m in a low now….it’s all good. I’m going to come through the low and have another high…eventually. The point being that things work for people sometimes. Even if it’s the power of suggestion. HI Guyver Don't pursue the high as that is the addiction not different than drugs, booze, sex and rock and roll. I do what I do because that is one part of the gifts I have that doesn't cater to my ego. The only person I have ever cared to compete with against was me as that is who I have always had to better, not you or anyone else. Joc told you to sit down and look at what you want to achieve within your commitments and focus on it without ignoring the rest of your life. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted June 20, 2024 #18 Share Posted June 20, 2024 On 6/18/2024 at 12:18 PM, Piney said: And it's the Virgin of Guadalupe. She's not Mary. She's the "Cathlolicized" Mother Corn (Tonantzin) Why would Mother Corn be shedding tears of blood? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted June 20, 2024 #19 Share Posted June 20, 2024 17 hours ago, jmccr8 said: HI Guyver Don't pursue the high as that is the addiction not different than drugs, booze, sex and rock and roll. I do what I do because that is one part of the gifts I have that doesn't cater to my ego. The only person I have ever cared to compete with against was me as that is who I have always had to better, not you or anyone else. Joc told you to sit down and look at what you want to achieve within your commitments and focus on it without ignoring the rest of your life. I want to thank you for that. What Joc said has not been forgotten by this pilgrim, I’m just not sure what to do about it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 20, 2024 #20 Share Posted June 20, 2024 3 minutes ago, Portre said: Why would Mother Corn be shedding tears of blood? So more people will visit her and throw more pesos in the donation jar. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted June 20, 2024 #21 Share Posted June 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, Piney said: So more people will visit her and throw more pesos in the donation jar. Obviously because there is no such thing as Mother Corn. It was a superstition from the Natives, wasn’t it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 20, 2024 #22 Share Posted June 20, 2024 Just now, Guyver said: Obviously because there is no such thing as Mother Corn. It was a superstition from the Natives, wasn’t it? The personification of maternal love, plants and growth. Then a member of her priestly caste "had a vision" on the hill where her temple was and redesigned her into Marian worship while keeping her Nahuatl aspects. Suddenly BINGO! Our Lady of Guadalupe. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted June 20, 2024 #23 Share Posted June 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, Piney said: The personification of maternal love, plants and growth. Then a member of her priestly caste "had a vision" on the hill where her temple was and redesigned her into Marian worship while keeping her Nahuatl aspects. Suddenly BINGO! Our Lady of Guadalupe. And I am thinking of another projection some of us use, “Mother Nature.” 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted June 20, 2024 #24 Share Posted June 20, 2024 Speaking of Mother Mary. Here’s a shout out to the old rockers like me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 20, 2024 #25 Share Posted June 20, 2024 10 minutes ago, Guyver said: And I am thinking of another projection some of us use, “Mother Nature.” The Nahuatl had a slew of "mother" goddesses. Toci or Coatlicue might be closer to Mother Earth or Mother Nature. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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