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Virgin Mary statue 'cries tears of blood' at church in Mexico


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I have seen enough evidence of Marian miracles to believe it is a legitimate paranormal phenomenon.

Skeptics never.

Debating the details will go nowhere.

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Pork fat. Somebody has to say it.

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1 hour ago, eight bits said:

Pork fat. Somebody has to say it.

Didn't you already debunk this? Or was it another one? 

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1 minute ago, Piney said:

Didn't you already debunk this? Or was it another one? 

I think we've had a few of these. 

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The story says that this one started leaking June 2nd, so this is yet another one.

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Why would the Blessed Mother be shedding tears of blood?  I thought Jesus said, “It is finished” on the cross?  That (according to Christian beliefs) is an indication that Gods perfect plan of redemption was complete, Jesus died for the sins of all the world so we could all be saved.  It seems she would be crying tears of joy if this were true, not tears of blood.

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1 hour ago, Guyver said:

Why would the Blessed Mother be shedding tears of blood?  I thought Jesus said, “It is finished” on the cross?  That (according to Christian beliefs) is an indication that Gods perfect plan of redemption was complete, Jesus died for the sins of all the world so we could all be saved.  It seems she would be crying tears of joy if this were true, not tears of blood.

And it's the Virgin of Guadalupe. She's not Mary. She's the "Cathlolicized" Mother Corn (Tonantzin) 

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People need that 15 minutes of fame.

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6 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

I have seen enough evidence of Marian miracles to believe it is a legitimate paranormal phenomenon.

Skeptics never.

Debating the details will go nowhere.

You would have quickly gone broke buying fake holy relics during the Middle Ages.

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28 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

You would have quickly gone broke buying fake holy relics during the Middle Ages.

Seems to me he does more selling 'round here than buying :rofl:

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16 minutes ago, eight bits said:

Seems to me he does more selling 'round here than buying :rofl:

I don't know how someone can believe conflicting "channelers" and conflicting spiritual ideas. It's lunacy. 😳

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6 hours ago, Piney said:

I don't know how someone can believe conflicting "channelers" and conflicting spiritual ideas. It's lunacy. 😳

Unless each person is on an individual path, yet has to interact with others, so it seems like lunacy.  IOW, in general fortune tellers, card readers, palm readers, astrologists, et al, should all be chalked up to crazy, except for one thing.. every time I have used them, they have been right on in my life.  So, I guess I’m on a hot streak, and the odds are in my favor?!  Whew.  Unless I just jinxed it and now I’m headed for another low.  Wait, I’m in a low now….it’s all good.  I’m going to come through the low and have another high…eventually. The point being that things work for people sometimes.  Even if it’s the power of suggestion.

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1 hour ago, Guyver said:

Unless each person is on an individual path, yet has to interact with others, so it seems like lunacy.  IOW, in general fortune tellers, card readers, palm readers, astrologists, et al, should all be chalked up to crazy, except for one thing.. every time I have used them, they have been right on in my life.  So, I guess I’m on a hot streak, and the odds are in my favor?!  Whew.  Unless I just jinxed it and now I’m headed for another low.  Wait, I’m in a low now….it’s all good.  I’m going to come through the low and have another high…eventually. The point being that things work for people sometimes.  Even if it’s the power of suggestion.

HI Guyver

Don't pursue the high as that is the addiction not different than drugs, booze, sex and rock and roll. I do what I do because that is one part of the gifts I have that doesn't cater to my ego. The only person I have ever cared to compete with against was me as that is who I have always had to better, not you or anyone else. 

Joc told you to sit down and look at what you want to achieve within your commitments and focus on it without ignoring the rest of your life. 

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On 6/18/2024 at 12:18 PM, Piney said:

And it's the Virgin of Guadalupe. She's not Mary. She's the "Cathlolicized" Mother Corn (Tonantzin) 

Why would Mother Corn be shedding tears of blood?

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17 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Guyver

Don't pursue the high as that is the addiction not different than drugs, booze, sex and rock and roll. I do what I do because that is one part of the gifts I have that doesn't cater to my ego. The only person I have ever cared to compete with against was me as that is who I have always had to better, not you or anyone else. 

Joc told you to sit down and look at what you want to achieve within your commitments and focus on it without ignoring the rest of your life. 

I want to thank you for that.  What Joc said has not been forgotten by this pilgrim, I’m just not sure what to do about it.

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3 minutes ago, Portre said:

Why would Mother Corn be shedding tears of blood?

So more people will visit her and throw more pesos in the donation jar.

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4 minutes ago, Piney said:

So more people will visit her and throw more pesos in the donation jar.

Obviously because there is no such thing as Mother Corn.  It was a superstition from the Natives, wasn’t it?

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Just now, Guyver said:

Obviously because there is no such thing as Mother Corn.  It was a superstition from the Natives, wasn’t it?

The personification of maternal love, plants and growth. Then a member of her priestly caste "had a vision" on the hill where her temple was and redesigned her into Marian worship while keeping her Nahuatl aspects. 

Suddenly BINGO!  Our Lady of Guadalupe. 

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4 minutes ago, Piney said:

The personification of maternal love, plants and growth. Then a member of her priestly caste "had a vision" on the hill where her temple was and redesigned her into Marian worship while keeping her Nahuatl aspects. 

Suddenly BINGO!  Our Lady of Guadalupe. 

And I am thinking of another projection some of us use, “Mother Nature.”

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Speaking of Mother Mary.  Here’s a shout out to the old rockers like me.

 

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10 minutes ago, Guyver said:

And I am thinking of another projection some of us use, “Mother Nature.”

The Nahuatl had a slew of "mother" goddesses. Toci or Coatlicue might be closer to Mother Earth or Mother Nature. 

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