UFO whistleblowers are being threatened, claims Luis Elizondo

[UM-Bot]

The former head of the Pentagon's UFO investigation unit has claimed that whistleblowers like him aren't safe.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/378008/ufo-whistleblowers-are-being-threatened-claims-luis-elizondo

[Murat]

If Lou gets shat on by the same UFO twice, I'll believe what he says.

[esoteric_toad]

Seems to me it would warrant more concern if they actually provided evidence of threats.  

 

[Trelane]

They are being soooo threatened that they get TV deals, spots on Podcasts, and invited to testify to Congress.

Just get out of here with that garbage.

[sanchez710]

Provide some evidence if you're a whistle blower!

[pallidin]

Fantastic topic. Looking forward to allowable releases on this issue.

[Trelane]

Well, Grusch is now going on a year not responding to the investigators detailed to his specific case. He also is now apparently getting close to almost a year of not responding to the AARO's request to follow up on his statements made to congress. he's got time for Joe Rogan but no the official channels he initialed contact with for his initial complaint? Yeah, that tracks.

[Piney]

14 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Well, Grusch is now going on a year not responding to the investigators detailed to his specific case. He also is now apparently getting close to almost a year of not responding to the AARO's request to follow up on his statements made to congress. he's got time for Joe Rogan but no the official channels he initialed contact with for his initial complaint? Yeah, that tracks.

We both know Elizondo is a complete liar and Burchett is nuts. 

[Hawken]

People couldn't handle covid let alone aliens. What you don't know won't hurt you.

[Hankenhunter]

4 hours ago, Piney said:

We both know Elizondo is a complete liar and Burchett is nuts. 

Citation please. No skeptic sites either.

[Piney]

1 minute ago, Hankenhunter said:

Citation please. No skeptic sites either.

@Trelane and I both noticing his background story has changed over the years. The same way Grusch's rank and years served seems to change.

  Lack of anyone in MI who was involved in the drug wars and with traffickers knowing him.

  He was MI but he only worked with NBC threats as a research and field scientist. They know him.

  Since his MOS involved bio warfare he wouldn't be involved with anything involving aeronautics. That would be a aerospace engineer. Not a microbiologist. 

And he most certainly wouldn't be a field operative involving intel gathering. Not with a biohazard handling MOS. 

 

A outdoorsman like yourself doesn't notice things like this? 

You know "minute details". 

 

 

[Hankenhunter]

10 minutes ago, Piney said:

@Trelane and I both noticing his background story has changed over the years. The same way Grusch's rank and years served seems to change.

  Lack of anyone in MI who was involved in the drug wars and with traffickers knowing him.

  He was MI but he only worked with NBC threats as a research and field scientist. They know him.

  Since his MOS involved bio warfare he wouldn't be involved with anything involving aeronautics. That would be a aerospace engineer. Not a microbiologist. 

And he most certainly wouldn't be a field operative involving intel gathering. Not with a biohazard handling MOS. 

 

A outdoorsman like yourself doesn't notice things like this? 

You know "minute details". 

 

 

Still asking for a citation, or is this just your opinion.

[Piney]

25 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Still asking for a citation, or is this just your opinion.

 It's what I found out through channels by being a member of a military family involved in SpecOps and having a father who was a XO in MACV SOG and a nephew who's Army Intelligence.

I talk to people. 

In the military.

All the time. 

You want his actual DD214?

 His MOS was he was a microbiologist who had to look for bad things being sprayed on people or being carried by soldiers or POWs. He was MI. He wasn't a spook. 

[Hankenhunter]

12 minutes ago, Piney said:

 It's what I found out through channels by being a member of a military family involved in SpecOps and having a father who was a XO in MACV SOG and a nephew who's Army Intelligence.

I talk to people. 

In the military.

All the time. 

You want his actual DD214?

 His MOS was he was a microbiologist who had to look for bad things being sprayed on people or being carried by soldiers or POWs. He was MI. He wasn't a spook. 

So, your opinion, yes?

[Piney]

3 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

So, your opinion, yes?

What I found out, so yes.

Believe what you want. I'm not arguing. 

I just can't wrap it around my autistic head how you can pick up all the bs sprayed all over by the Neocons but you can't detect it with this crew.

[Dejarma]

yeah these brave whistle-blowers who risk everything to let the world know the truth.

They deserve the ultimate respect so watch their pod casts, buy their books etc etc 

[Hankenhunter]

14 minutes ago, Piney said:

What I found out, so yes.

Believe what you want. I'm not arguing. 

I just can't wrap it around my autistic head how you can pick up all the bs sprayed all over by the Neocons but you can't detect it with this crew.

Thank you.

In answer to your question, like the neocons, I'm tired of people posting opinions as facts. 

[Piney]

9 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

yeah these brave whistle-blowers who risk everything to let the world know the truth.

They deserve the ultimate respect so watch their pod casts, buy their books etc etc 

If the Puzzle Palace wanted them to be quiet. They would've never been around to run their mouths in the first place. 

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Piney said:

If the Puzzle Palace wanted them to be quiet. They would've never been around to run their mouths in the first place. 

yep, i like it when folk spout the bleeding obvious- shame there's still a need to do so😉

[Piney]

1 minute ago, Hankenhunter said:

Thank you.

In answer to your question, like the neocons, I'm tired of people posting opinions as facts. 

The fact is his job in the Army was a Military Intelligence microbiologist. My opinion is I don't see him working with unknown aircraft identification. The ideal person would be a aeronautical engineer. 

[Hankenhunter]

5 minutes ago, Piney said:

The fact is his job in the Army was a Military Intelligence microbiologist. My opinion is I don't see him working with unknown aircraft identification. The ideal person would be a aeronautical engineer. 

Personally, I think military intelligence is an oxymoron. 

 

[Piney]

5 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Personally, I think military intelligence is an oxymoron. 

 

American is but the British have their **** together and laugh at us. 

[Trelane]

3 hours ago, Piney said:

What I found out, so yes.

Believe what you want. I'm not arguing. 

I just can't wrap it around my autistic head how you can pick up all the bs sprayed all over by the Neocons but you can't detect it with this crew.

I t doesn't fit his narrative, so he conveniently ignores it or claims it' sonly from a "skeptic site". Whatever that means.

Hanky, do a site search for my previous comments on Mr. Grusch, you'll see where I have linked items covering his matters. I personally know the personnel from IG who are detailed to his case and no I'm not providing their names. because there are rules for confidentiality that is the cornerstone of the IG enterprise.

[Hankenhunter]

56 minutes ago, Trelane said:

I'm not providing their names. because there are rules for confidentiality that is the cornerstone of the IG enterprise.

Not surprising at all. No names, = no proof. Your researched Grusch, and you won't reveal your sources so that I can't research them like you did? If you can't reveal them, you shouldn't have posted the link. It's meaningless.

[Piney]

5 hours ago, Trelane said:

I t doesn't fit his narrative, so he conveniently ignores it or claims it' sonly from a "skeptic site". Whatever that means.

Hanky, do a site search for my previous comments on Mr. Grusch, you'll see where I have linked items covering his matters. I personally know the personnel from IG who are detailed to his case and no I'm not providing their names. because there are rules for confidentiality that is the cornerstone of the IG enterprise.

Frustrating.

I asked one XO why they just don't release Grusch's DD214 and he said if a S8 is involved he could sue the pants off of everybody and open up a whole can of civil rights worms.

It's just nuts all the way around....