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Has Trump taken over the Republican Party?


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Mitt Romney: “I don't really have a home in my party … I come from a tradition of, you know, Ronald Reagan, and George Herbert Walker Bush, and George W. Bush, and John McCain. … Those are the people that have shaped our party: anti-Putin, anti-Russia, anti-authoritarians, anti-Kim Jong Un, very strong on foreign policy...I don't recognize that in the great majority of our party today. And that, for me, is very troubling."
(October 2022)

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Like Trump has advocated, Ronald Reagan met his adversary and solved a problem which could have been catastrophic to everybody if military intervention was pursued over peaceful negotiations. Same with JFK. He met his Russian adversary. Most of today's western politicians have forgotten that their biggest responsibility is to ensure they don't get their citizens involved in needless violent conflict especially with other big world super power nations where the end result is pretty much the end of humanity as we know it. 

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Well as a former democrat. I don't recognize today's dem party either. They're not the same when FDR, Truman and JFK were in office.

They seemed to adopt Marxist ideologies. Just look at the state of the US with Biden. Inflation, High Crime, Illegal Immigration (etc)

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51 minutes ago, Hawken said:

Well as a former democrat. I don't recognize today's dem party either. They're not the same when FDR, Truman and JFK were in office.

They seemed to adopt Marxist ideologies. Just look at the state of the US with Biden. Inflation, High Crime, Illegal Immigration (etc)

lmao

Inflation rose almost everywhere in the world. Not to mention companies got greedy and jacked up prices will beyond inflation

Crime rates in the US are headed towards historic lows. Hell, murder rates are almost on par with the early 60's. The lowest they've been in 60 years.

Immigration is a campaign issue. It affects you in no meaningful way, or you be complaining about more than the border, since more than half of illegals are those that overstayed visa. 

 

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Why don't you do your research for more accurate statistics instead of watching the mainstream media who has a narrative to push.

@Occupational Hubris

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37 minutes ago, Hawken said:

Why don't you do your research for more accurate statistics instead of watching the mainstream media who has a narrative to push.

@Occupational Hubris

You always go on and on about the "mainstream media", which, as a millennial you so fear, I HAVE NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO. 

I actually know how to research and find objective facts. I'd say you should try it sometime, but it would likely shatter your world view and you wouldn't be able to cope. 

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2 hours ago, acidhead said:

with other big world super power nations where the end result is pretty much the end of humanity as we know it. 

I think it's even worse than that.  We seem to have lost the sense to even be fearful of them.  At least, DC has.  These people don't inhabit the real world any longer.  Even here on this site we have a substantial number of members who mock anyone who wants to exercise caution with Putin.  Is it likely he'd use any nukes?  Of course not.  Is it impossible?  That is one HELL of a bet to be making with the future of humanity.

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2 hours ago, Hawken said:

Well as a former democrat. I don't recognize today's dem party either. They're not the same when FDR, Truman and JFK were in office.

They seemed to adopt Marxist ideologies. Just look at the state of the US with Biden. Inflation, High Crime, Illegal Immigration (etc)

This became possible only because they control corporate media messaging and have been able to flood our nation with a corrosive level of tribalism.  

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No, Trump didn't "take" anything until the Republicans became nearly indistinguishable from the modern Left.  Those in DC who haven't outed themselves yet, likely will have to if he gets elected and DC allows him to take office.

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“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

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It astounds me that boomers constantly rail against "MSM and their agenda", not realizing that basically no one besides themselves have gotten news from the msm in decades. Millennials barely do and gen z sure as **** doesn't.

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5 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said:

It astounds me that boomers constantly rail against "MSM and their agenda", not realizing that basically no one besides themselves have gotten new from the msm in decades. Millennials barely do and gen z sure as **** doesn't.

Yeah.  It seems to be only the older generation that watches TV anymore.  Everyone else seems to be Tik Tok, You Tube, and Netflix with no advertisement.  

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5 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Yeah.  It seems to be only the older generation that watches TV anymore.  Everyone else seems to be Tik Tok, You Tube, and Netflix with no advertisement.  

I got rid of cable probably 15 years ago. Haven't even watched broadcast tv since. Even got my parents off cable, thankfully,

Problem is that people don't check sources anymore when it comes to news, if they did at all. How many times on this site alone have we seen posters duped all because they didn't take 10 min to verify what they were posting? 

 

Of course, "the mainstream media and their agenda" is just their go-to defense when they can't back up their claims. See post #5 above,

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Trump is the Republican party now. They dance to his tune. The GOP is either to scared or to weak to challenge him. 

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1 minute ago, Occupational Hubris said:

I got rid of cable probably 15 years ago. Haven't even watched broadcast tv since. Even got my parents off cable, thankfully,

"Mainstream Media"  has become another buzzword like Marxist, communist, and woke.  Put a name on it, then you can box it up and discard it. 

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2 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Trump is the Republican party now. They dance to his tune. The GOP is either to scared or to weak to challenge him. 

The Republican Party is now devoid of any conservative ideas and values. It is now a cult 

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1 minute ago, Occupational Hubris said:

I got rid of cable probably 15 years ago. Haven't even watched broadcast tv since. Even got my parents off cable, thankfully,

Problem is that people don't check sources anymore when it comes to news, if they did at all. How many times on this site alone have we seen posters duped all because they did take 10 min to verify what they were posting? 

That poster uses memes and Facebook rumours as news. He's more guilty than anyone he accuses of being sucked in by the media. He's clearly not a thinker, he's led by the nose by social media. When he can't reply he uses a crappy meme usually out of context. If his brain was dynamite it wouldn't be enough to mess up his hair if it exploded. 

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Just now, Tatetopa said:

"Mainstream Media"  has become another buzzword like Marxist, communist, and woke.  Put a name on it, then you can box it up and discard it. 

The irony, of  course, is the republican boomers screaming the loudest about "socialism" are probably the last ones that are still benefiting from socialist policies. They constantly vote against their own interests.  

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Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

The Republican Party is now devoid of any conservative ideas and values. It is now a cult 

Stolen election rallies, support for a criminal and the simple fact that America is facing another Trump Biden face off says your spot on. 

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1 minute ago, psyche101 said:

That poster uses memes and Facebook rumours as news. He's more guilty than anyone he accuses of being sucked in by the media. He's clearly not a thinker, he's led by the nose by social media. When he can't reply he uses a crappy meme usually out of context. If his brain was dynamite it wouldn't be enough to mess up his hair if it exploded. 

Getting news from social media is right on par with his feared "MSM"

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2 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

"Mainstream Media"  has become another buzzword like Marxist, communist, and woke.  Put a name on it, then you can box it up and discard it. 

From the idiots using the everything I don't like is a Nazi schtick. Could it be any more ironic. 

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2 hours ago, and-then said:

No, Trump didn't "take" anything until the Republicans became nearly indistinguishable from the modern Left.  Those in DC who haven't outed themselves yet, likely will have to if he gets elected and DC allows him to take office.

So I guess if Trump eliminates the GOP and turns it into MAGA you’ll be okay?

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Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

So I guess if Trump eliminates the GOP and turns it into MAGA you’ll be okay?

If that happened you would never in your life see someone so aroused as AT

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They pretty much abandoned the fiscal conservatives with the debt spending and increases taxes (tariffs).  The neocons, I thought were gone as well, but the Israel thing has some of them coming out of the woodwork again.  

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2 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Stolen election rallies, support for a criminal and the simple fact that America is facing another Trump Biden face off says your spot on. 

…and the Trump cool-aid just keeps on coming and his people just lap it up. Luckily normal republicans are starting to see through it all. 

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