Tatetopa Posted June 23 #51 Share Posted June 23 32 minutes ago, acidhead said: 🤔 Thanks for that. AI gets its quotes by scraping the internet for related topics. AI does not inspect for truth or accuracy, just answers what you ask. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted June 23 #52 Share Posted June 23 48 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Thanks for that. AI gets its quotes by scraping the internet for related topics. AI does not inspect for truth or accuracy, just answers what you ask. Do you have any evidence that Russia's nuclear arsenal doesn't still work? To use your theory that "AI does not inspect for truth or accuracy, just answers what you think" I asked it the opposite question. Here's the result: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted June 23 #53 Share Posted June 23 13 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: They aren't "mine". I don't own any channels. Jubilee is one of the larger channels on YouTube, however, with nearly 9 million subscribers, and is quite impartial in bringing disparate views together - a discussion between pro and anti Trump Republicans would seem to be a relevant discussion for folks interested in the thread question. If you don't want to watch it, don't watch it, it's no skin off my nose 🤷♂️ And I don't really care who you think will or will not be interested in it, but I acknowledge your need to stampede in to huff and puff about it. ~ Link Yes.... the implication was that you are the owner of the youtube videos... 🙄 We got us a real stable genius over here! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted June 24 #54 Share Posted June 24 3 hours ago, acidhead said: Do you have any evidence that Russia's nuclear arsenal doesn't still work? No I don't. And I wouldn't ask AI for the answer. Back in the old days, we did have a precursor to AI, that might have been just as effective. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted June 24 #55 Share Posted June 24 25 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: Yes.... the implication was that you are the owner of the youtube videos... 🙄 We got us a real stable genius over here! You really know how to dodge the point I made in order to push your narrative, I'll give you props for that, at least. Fact is 9 million people subscribe to that channel, does your dislike or my posts invalidate that there may be folks here on UM who might have an interest in this, particularly in a topic about Trump and the Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted June 24 #56 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: You really know how to dodge the point I made in order to push your narrative, I'll give you props for that, at least. Fact is 9 million people subscribe to that channel, does your dislike or my posts invalidate that there may be folks here on UM who might have an interest in this, particularly in a topic about Trump and the Republicans. Bro, i don't care about your point. It's always the same - "trump is a golden god who can do no wrong" Edited June 24 by Occupational Hubris 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted June 24 #57 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: Bro, i don't care about your point. It's always the same - "trump is a golden god who can do no wrong" Is that what the anti Trump Republicans said in the video If not then your allegation is utter bogus Edited June 24 by Link of Hyrule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Occupational Hubris Posted June 24 #59 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: Is that what the anti Trump Republicans said in the video If not then your allegation is utter bogus I said "YOUR" point. I don't care about the video. I will never care about the video. I will never care about what is said in the video. I will never give the video a chance. I will never bother with one moment of what is said in the video. I will never discuss what is said in the video because i will never hear it. Give it up. Edited June 24 by Occupational Hubris 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted June 24 #60 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Occupational Hubris said: I said "YOUR" point. And yet that wasn't MY point, either 1 hour ago, Occupational Hubris said: I don't care about the video. I will never care about the video. I will never care about what is said in the video. I will never give the video a chance. I will never bother with one moment of what is said in the video. I will never discuss what is said in the video because i will never hear it. Give it up. You don't have to watch it. You don't have to care about it. Heck, you don't even need to know it exists. I didn't post it here for YOU. But if you are going to comment on it, don't mischaracterise my comment as "trump is a golden god who can do no wrong", which you allege is what my posts are ALWAYS about! I shared the video for those who are interested, the end. You're irrationally angry today, did you know that? Edited June 24 by Link of Hyrule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted June 24 #61 Share Posted June 24 On 6/22/2024 at 7:21 PM, Hawken said: Well as a former democrat. I don't recognize today's dem party either. They're not the same when FDR, Truman and JFK were in office. They seemed to adopt Marxist ideologies. Just look at the state of the US with Biden. Inflation, High Crime, Illegal Immigration (etc) If you were around to remember them, then your vote won't count for much longer anyway... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted June 24 #62 Share Posted June 24 20 hours ago, acidhead said: \ It's what made him popular before and what got him elected in 2016. \ He's popular for two reasons. Reason one. He gives the ***** ***** Americans someone to blame their failures on, and he gives the rich tax cuts. The majority of people are lower to lower middle class. They would rather blame someone else for their failures. He has the poor and uneducated, and the rich market cornered. Can you tell me what he has ever done for the actual middle class? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted June 24 #63 Share Posted June 24 15 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: however, with nearly 9 million subscribers ~ Link More than 9 million people believe the earth is flat. You know how confirmation bias works. If someone is telling you what you want to hear, you subscribe. That doesn't make it legitimate, or a good source. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted June 24 #64 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said: And yet that wasn't MY point, either You don't have to watch it. You don't have to care about it. Heck, you don't even need to know it exists. I didn't post it here for YOU. But if you are going to comment on it, don't mischaracterise my comment as "trump is a golden god who can do no wrong", which you allege is what my posts are ALWAYS about! I shared the video for those who are interested, the end. You're irrationally angry today, did you know that? I'm actually in a good mood today, thanks. And yes, your posts are always about defending VonShitzInPantz in whatever way you can. And as this is still a PUBLIC forum, i'll comment on it how i see fit. Thanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted June 24 #65 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said: And yet that wasn't MY point, either Missed this part, did we? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted June 24 #66 Share Posted June 24 59 minutes ago, Agent0range said: More than 9 million people believe the earth is flat. You know how confirmation bias works. If someone is telling you what you want to hear, you subscribe. That doesn't make it legitimate, or a good source. I wasn't arguing that the subscriber count therefore meant what they said was true. The point I was making was that if 9 million people are interested in the channel out in YouTube-land, maybe someone here will be interested, particularly in a thread literally about Trump and the Republican party. If that's not you, cool bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted June 24 #67 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: I'm actually in a good mood today, thanks. We've just had to euthanise our chihuahua at the vet this morning, so maybe I'm not. 53 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: And yes, your posts are always about defending VonShitzInPantz in whatever way you can. Uh huh! And that's what this video was about? I doubt you'll find it so, but you did say "always" specifically in the context of this video when assigning motives. That brings me to your next line: 53 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: And as this is still a PUBLIC forum, i'll comment on it how i see fit. Thanks You have the right to post as you wish, but If that includes lying* about me I will push back! * if not a lie, at the very minimum it's a misunderstanding, and until this post I was thinking it a misunderstanding and treating it as such, but you insist on assigning motives to my post despite explicitly told otherwise, which suggests an intentional misrepresentation, even if it's your unconscious bias of me at work. You don't have to watch the video, but if you don't then don't tell me my motives for posting it when they don't even match what the video is about (eg,the anti-Trump Republicans have as much to say in this video, and even make good points sometimes). Edited June 24 by Link of Hyrule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted June 24 #68 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, Agent0range said: Can you tell me what he has ever done for the actual middle class? Yes, there's plenty: Trump's economic plan, signed into law on December 22, 2017, was aimed at improving the standard of living for the middle class Americans. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) was a significant legislation passed during Trump's presidency. Here are some key aspects of the TCJA: *Key Provisions:* 1. *Individual Tax Brackets:* The TCJA retained seven tax brackets but lowered the rates, with the top rate reduced from 39.6% to 37%. 2. *Standard Deduction:* The standard deduction was doubled to $12,000 for single filers and $24,000 for joint filers. 3. *Child Tax Credit:* The child tax credit was increased from $1,000 to $2,000 per child. 4. *State and Local Tax (SALT) Deduction:* The TCJA capped the SALT deduction at $10,000. 5. *Corporate Tax Rate:* The corporate tax rate was reduced from 35% to 21%. *Impact on Middle-Class Americans:* 1. *Tax Cuts:* Many middle-class Americans saw a reduction in their tax liability, resulting in increased take-home pay. 2. *Increased Disposable Income:* Lower taxes led to increased disposable income for middle-class households. 3. *Economic Growth:* Proponents argue that the TCJA contributed to the US economy's growth and low unemployment during Trump's presidency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted June 24 #69 Share Posted June 24 15 hours ago, Tatetopa said: Thanks for that. AI gets its quotes by scraping the internet for related topics. AI does not inspect for truth or accuracy, just answers what you ask. I do not ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted June 24 #70 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 14 hours ago, Agent0range said: If you were around to remember them, then your vote won't count for much longer anyway... Sure it will! Trump says dead people vote all the time. Are you calling him a Liar!*? ; Edited June 24 by lightly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted June 24 #71 Share Posted June 24 (edited) Trumpnomic$ https://www.axios.com/2024/06/24/trump-biden-debt-deficits-election New ten-year borrowing by presidential term As of June 21, 2024 Non- COVID relief COVID relief Trump $8.4t $4.8t 3.6t Biden $4.3t 2.2t 2.1t Data: Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget; Chart: Axios Visuals Edited June 24 by lightly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 24 #72 Share Posted June 24 On 6/22/2024 at 8:30 PM, Occupational Hubris said: It astounds me that boomers constantly rail against "MSM and their agenda", not realizing that basically no one besides themselves have gotten news from the msm in decades. Millennials barely do and gen z sure as **** doesn't. Where do you get yours from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 24 #73 Share Posted June 24 On 6/22/2024 at 8:37 PM, Gromdor said: Yeah. It seems to be only the older generation that watches TV anymore. Everyone else seems to be Tik Tok, You Tube, and Netflix with no advertisement. And thus are generally uninformed and distracted by short attention span inducing videos and celebrity gossip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 24 #74 Share Posted June 24 (edited) On 6/22/2024 at 9:47 PM, Tatetopa said: MAGA is not conservative. They go in a different direction. Principally I think their world view is of being victims of a secret deep state that is plotting to enslave them or exterminate them. I think it's more that they view the government as irretrievably corrupt by money and power and no longer serve We the People. Would you like to argue with them? Edited June 24 by OverSword 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted June 24 #75 Share Posted June 24 12 minutes ago, OverSword said: I think it's more that they view the government as irretrievably corrupt by money and power and no longer serve We the People. Would you like to argue with them? I think you are spot on. It's why they flip flopped on issues so regularly. Destroying the government as we have it is their platform. I would go so far as to say that they support Trump because he is actively harmful to the system. Take our trust in the court system, our elections, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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