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Kansas Attorney General sues Pfizer for 'false and misleading marketing'


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We can have a look at the details of the court hearing below but for me, it's a matter of: how do you give informed consent when they lied? And, why do people defend the jabs in light of an onslaught of evidence to the contrary? But also, how do the posters on here name calling us as tin hat conspiracy theorists remove egg from their faces while chowing down on cold humble pie?

Yes, some will say the hearing hasn't had a ruling but, how on earth do we even get to this point because it is very damning indeed.

Kansas maintain that Pfizer:

- said its COVID-19 vaccine was safe even though it knew its COVID-19 vaccine was connected to serious adverse events, including myocarditis and pericarditis, failed pregnancies, and deaths.

- concealed this critical safety information from the public.

- said its COVID-19 vaccine was effective even though it knew its COVID- 19 vaccine waned over time and did not protect against COVID-19 variants.

- concealed this critical effectiveness information from the public.

- said its COVID-19 vaccine would prevent transmission of COVID-19 even though it knew it never studied the effect of its vaccine on transmission of COVID-19. To keep the public from learning the truth, Pfizer worked to censor speech on social media that questioned Pfizer’s claims about its COVID-19 vaccine.

- made misrepresentations of a “safe and effective” vaccine resulted in record company revenue of approximately $75 billion from COVID-19 vaccine sales in just two years.

- actions and statements relating to its COVID-19 vaccine violated previous consent judgments with the State of Kansas. Pfizer’s actions and statements relating to its COVID-19 vaccine violated the Kansas Consumer Protection Act Pfizer must be held accountable for falsely representing the benefits of its COVID- 19 vaccine while concealing and suppressing the truth about its vaccine’s safety risks, waning effectiveness, and inability to prevent transmission.
- made misrepresentations to millions of Kansans about its COVID-19 vaccine. In May 2021, Pfizer advertised to Kansans on Facebook about its “life-saving vaccines” and its “cures.”

- they took advantage of Kansans’ fear of COVID-19 and desire for safety by offering a “safe and effective” COVID-19 vaccine, while concealing, suppressing, and omitting material information that undermined its safety and effectiveness claims. in Kansas.

-  used confidentiality agreements to conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine.

- they have kept data hidden through confidentiality agreements with governments around the world.

- used an extended study timeline to conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine.

- True scientists were outraged that they still could not review Pfizer’s COVID-19 study data. “Pfizer’s pivotal COVID vaccine trial was funded by the company and designed, run, analysed, and authored by Pfizer employees. The company and the contract research organisations that carried out the trial hold all the data.”

- used FOIA denial and delay to conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine.

- destroyed the vaccine control group, which will conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine. 

Remember while you read the above that the state of Kansas has seen and had enough of the pharma lies and actually taken it to court. 

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here we go again.... 

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43 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said:

here we go again.... 

I know right? 

A bunch of UM 'scientists' are about to win the case for Pfizer while the attorneys acting on behalf of Kansas must be delusional or something? 

lol

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So much wrong here I don't know where to start.

1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

why do people defend the jabs in light of an onslaught of evidence to the contrary?

Why do people defend what, relating to vaccines, in light of what evidence to the contrary of what ?

1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

But also, how do the posters on here name calling us as tin hat conspiracy theorists remove egg from their faces while chowing down on cold humble pie?

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A bunch of UM 'scientists' are about to win the case for Pfizer while the attorneys acting on behalf of Kansas must be delusional or something? 

I believe you were already asked to give this type of arrogant, obnoxious rhetoric a rest.

You don't even know the outcome of this lawsuit, nor which of these claims are actually true and which are frivolous.

You also seem to believe that Pfizer employing "misleading marketing", even if true, somehow corroborates your various claims about vaccines and the pandemic.

It doesn't.

For years, you've operated from the default position that "vaccines=bad", "covid=scam" and then pushed anything that appears to corroborate those viewpoints. Then when something like this comes along, you blindly latch onto it and play the "told you so" card, without actually understanding how it even applies to anything you've been trying to push.

How about waiting to see what actually comes of this lawsuit before hailing it as some sort of victory.

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25 minutes ago, Saru said:

So much wrong here I don't know where to start.

Why do people defend what, relating to vaccines, in light of what evidence to the contrary of what ?

I believe you were already asked to give this type of arrogant, obnoxious rhetoric a rest.

You don't even know the outcome of this lawsuit, nor which of these claims are actually true and which are frivolous.

You also seem to believe that Pfizer employing "misleading marketing", even if true, somehow corroborates your various claims about vaccines and the pandemic.

It doesn't.

For years, you've operated from the default position that "vaccines=bad", "covid=scam" and then pushed anything that appears to corroborate those viewpoints. Then when something like this comes along, you blindly latch onto it and play the "told you so" card, without actually understanding how it even applies to anything you've been trying to push.

How about waiting to see what actually comes of this lawsuit before hailing it as some sort of victory.

Let's wait.

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1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Let's wait.

In the meantime, I've changed the title from:

"Pfizer misled the public that it had a "safe and effective" Covid-19 vaccine"

to something a little more accurate:

"Kansas Attorney General sues Pfizer for 'false and misleading marketing'"

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3 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

We can have a look at the details of the court hearing below but for me, it's a matter of: how do you give informed consent when they lied? And, why do people defend the jabs in light of an onslaught of evidence to the contrary? But also, how do the posters on here name calling us as tin hat conspiracy theorists remove egg from their faces while chowing down on cold humble pie?

Yes, some will say the hearing hasn't had a ruling but, how on earth do we even get to this point because it is very damning indeed.

Kansas maintain that Pfizer:

- said its COVID-19 vaccine was safe even though it knew its COVID-19 vaccine was connected to serious adverse events, including myocarditis and pericarditis, failed pregnancies, and deaths.

- concealed this critical safety information from the public.

- said its COVID-19 vaccine was effective even though it knew its COVID- 19 vaccine waned over time and did not protect against COVID-19 variants.

- concealed this critical effectiveness information from the public.

- said its COVID-19 vaccine would prevent transmission of COVID-19 even though it knew it never studied the effect of its vaccine on transmission of COVID-19. To keep the public from learning the truth, Pfizer worked to censor speech on social media that questioned Pfizer’s claims about its COVID-19 vaccine.

- made misrepresentations of a “safe and effective” vaccine resulted in record company revenue of approximately $75 billion from COVID-19 vaccine sales in just two years.

- actions and statements relating to its COVID-19 vaccine violated previous consent judgments with the State of Kansas. Pfizer’s actions and statements relating to its COVID-19 vaccine violated the Kansas Consumer Protection Act Pfizer must be held accountable for falsely representing the benefits of its COVID- 19 vaccine while concealing and suppressing the truth about its vaccine’s safety risks, waning effectiveness, and inability to prevent transmission.
- made misrepresentations to millions of Kansans about its COVID-19 vaccine. In May 2021, Pfizer advertised to Kansans on Facebook about its “life-saving vaccines” and its “cures.”

- they took advantage of Kansans’ fear of COVID-19 and desire for safety by offering a “safe and effective” COVID-19 vaccine, while concealing, suppressing, and omitting material information that undermined its safety and effectiveness claims. in Kansas.

-  used confidentiality agreements to conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine.

- they have kept data hidden through confidentiality agreements with governments around the world.

- used an extended study timeline to conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine.

- True scientists were outraged that they still could not review Pfizer’s COVID-19 study data. “Pfizer’s pivotal COVID vaccine trial was funded by the company and designed, run, analysed, and authored by Pfizer employees. The company and the contract research organisations that carried out the trial hold all the data.”

- used FOIA denial and delay to conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine.

- destroyed the vaccine control group, which will conceal critical data relating to the safety and effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine. 

Remember while you read the above that the state of Kansas has seen and had enough of the pharma lies and actually taken it to court. 

Why are you anti Covid vaccines? Do you know someone personally, who has been adversely affected? (Apologies if you have explained in the past and I've missed it). 

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1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Let's wait.

Maybe you should have done that.

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Pfizer was fined 430 million under the False Claims Act in 2004

Pfizer was fined 2.3 Billion under the False Claims Act in 2009

Seems to be a pattern with Pharmaceutical companies. This list is just the top 20 and there are more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements#cite_note-USDOJ2009Pfizer-2

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25 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

Maybe you should have done that.

No, maybe THEY should have done that. The fall out on this is massive and will ruin lives for decades but had they waited and let those of us who wanted to carry just keep going... we would be much better off.

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38 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Why are you anti Covid vaccines? Do you know someone personally, who has been adversely affected? (Apologies if you have explained in the past and I've missed it). 

Common sense tells us that a jab rushed to market, forced on populations, belittling people who didn't want it would lead to issues. But politics and money swayed the science to the point it is obviously so anti-scientific that those behind the scam should be charged.

Millions of lives are being lost to the jabs due to side effects that were known about but poo pooed. It's horrific.

And then, they started talking about more jabs coming our way!!! It never stops unless it is brought to an end.

The way it has robbed money out of people's hands is a travesty.

And then theres the profiteers in the know... Whitty had AZ shares, hundreds of thousands of pounds of them, Sunak rolled his entire investment fund on 1 stock... Moderna, Mone made her millions in a bodged PPE scandal, Fauci funded Wuham through a 3rd party in gain of function experiments, the modellers in the Uni's were paid eye watering sums, the nightingale hospitals cost a fortune and were mothballed after not being needed, the NHS hospitals got extra mkn3y for every death certificate they managed to squeeze the word covid onto (to fabricate the numbers)

And where is the cure for cancer? A virus os one of the toughest blighters around and were told to believe they'd invented some cure in weeks but 4 years later, cancer cures have to be tested... 

I can go on all day.

Scummy people scamming every day folk while partying at their expense.

And before anyone chips in that the government paid me money... I took nothing from the coffers, running down my working capital in my businesses and selling assets at the end to meet wages. Nobody who worked for me took a pay drop or the 80% from the government (apart from me, unpaid for 16 months living on tinned food when I could afford it).That was 164 people across my 2 operations that the taxpayers didn't have to bail out. If the 'leaders' of the west had been in it with me like I was... well it would take have gotten off the tarmac let alone take flight.

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45 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

And where is the cure for cancer? A virus os one of the toughest blighters around and were told to believe they'd invented some cure in weeks but 4 years later, cancer cures have to be tested... 

Good point! Where is the cure for cancer?

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4 hours ago, pellinore said:

Why are you anti Covid vaccines? Do you know someone personally, who has been adversely affected? (Apologies if you have explained in the past and I've missed it). 

It's politically driven like it was in the 2020 elections. I am seeing and hearing more of the anti-covid vaccine, fake pandemic, excess death, Dr. Fauci bad, comments everywhere besides here at UM. It will be like this until the 2024 election is over. Most people are tired of hearing the same thing over and over again and have moved on from all of this. :rolleyes: But it's an election year, so here we are. :lol:

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2 hours ago, Katniss said:

It's politically driven like it was in the 2020 elections. I am seeing and hearing more of the anti-covid vaccine, fake pandemic, excess death, Dr. Fauci bad, comments everywhere besides here at UM. It will be like this until the 2024 election is over. Most people are tired of hearing the same thing over and over again and have moved on from all of this. :rolleyes: But it's an election year, so here we are. :lol:

  Anybody yelling fake pandemic needed to be around Native Americans and Latinos who are about half Native Americans. They ran out of vaccines in Pine Ridge and Rosebud then they sent my stepmother body bags when she didn't request them.

@Desertrat56 said they did the same with the Navajo and I was literally stacking Puerto Rican and Mexican bodies in South Jersey.

We don't have much in zoonotic resistance. 

Good story though.

  I was vaccinated by the Pfizer with both boosters. My wife just got the initial one. We both caught the "tripledemic". I recovered in a couple of days. She never did and died this past December. 

 

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6 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Scummy people scamming every day folk while partying at their expense.

You have just described every system of government that ever existed. Capitalism was not the first nor is it the only system that does so.  

If you let yourself be ruled by a leader that says only he can fix it, you can bet he is in on the scam.

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7 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Millions of lives are being lost to the jabs due to side effects that were known about but poo pooed. It's horrific.

Could you provide a source for this please.

7 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

NHS hospitals got extra mkn3y for every death certificate they managed to squeeze the word covid onto (to fabricate the numbers)

And this.

There's more to contest in your last post but we'll start with these.

This constant gaslighting needs to stop - there has to be some accountability.

Either back up these claims properly or retract them.

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2 hours ago, Piney said:

  Anybody yelling fake pandemic needed to be around Native Americans and Latinos who are about half Native Americans. They ran out of vaccines in Pine Ridge and Rosebud then they sent my stepmother body bags when she didn't request them.

@Desertrat56 said they did the same with the Navajo and I was literally stacking Puerto Rican and Mexican bodies in South Jersey.

We don't have much in zoonotic resistance. 

Good story though.

  I was vaccinated by the Pfizer with both boosters. My wife just got the initial one. We both caught the "tripledemic". I recovered in a couple of days. She never did and died this past December. 

 

They are only doing it because they are listening to manipulative conspiracy lies from idiots like Margorie Green and Alex Jones. They know the pandemic was real and it happened. But they think they have to repeat these lies for political agendas.

 

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I was vaccinated by the Pfizer with both boosters. My wife just got the initial one. We both caught the "tripledemic". I recovered in a couple of days. She never did and died this past December. 

I am so sorry, Piney. I wish that had not happen. :(

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11 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

 

Millions of lives are being lost to the jabs due to side effects that were known about but poo pooed. It's horrific.

 

You've literally made that up

 

 

11 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

 

Scummy people scamming every day folk while partying at their expense.

 


 

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4 hours ago, Piney said:

  Anybody yelling fake pandemic needed to be around Native Americans and Latinos who are about half Native Americans. They ran out of vaccines in Pine Ridge and Rosebud then they sent my stepmother body bags when she didn't request them.

@Desertrat56 said they did the same with the Navajo and I was literally stacking Puerto Rican and Mexican bodies in South Jersey.

We don't have much in zoonotic resistance. 

Good story though.

  I was vaccinated by the Pfizer with both boosters. My wife just got the initial one. We both caught the "tripledemic". I recovered in a couple of days. She never did and died this past December. 

 

I am so sorry, Piney.

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