Zebra3 Posted July 2 #26 Share Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: They have no answers for most of the unexplained phenomena associated to UFOs. They may pretend they have answers but that's different. If you have made up upor mind you can't change your worldview. Understand that you'll have to get used to those 'answers' in every thread. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 2 Author #27 Share Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, Zebra3 said: Understand that you'll have to get used to those 'answers' in every thread. I haven't been given any answers yet and there is no sign people have answered questions on UFO cases that remain unexplained. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted July 2 #28 Share Posted July 2 Good thread, @MrAnderson, and welcome into UM. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 2 Author #29 Share Posted July 2 Just now, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Good thread, @MrAnderson, and welcome into UM. Thank you! Have you had any strange experiences? It's always better if you are able to record them. A video or a photo make the cases much stronger. Sometimes it's way too difficult to to record these events when these objects are moving so fast. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 2 #30 Share Posted July 2 On 6/30/2024 at 9:53 PM, MrAnderson said: Object: Cigar Shaped Location: Undisclosed (somewhere in the US) Year: 2011 I consider myself to be very lucky to have personally seen a huge cigar-shaped object that was silver in colour, during the day (around 10am local time), with very clear visibility, flying at an enormous speed 300ft above the ground, making no sound whatsoever. The signting lasted for no more than 3 seconds and the object disappeared as quickly as it appeared (the best way I can describe it). The object was cylindrical in shape and there were no wings, no exhaust, no gases emmitted, and the type of propulsion is completely unknown to me. I can't explain why I couldn't hear any sounds and everything else associated with this sighting. The diameter of this object was over 300ft. Can't provide a location? I'm calling B.S. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted July 2 #31 Share Posted July 2 On 7/1/2024 at 4:01 AM, MrAnderson said: If you read my post I never said about ETs. I know you are addressing the other poster but the phenomenon remains unexplained and very interesting. Even if this is human technology we would have seen it somewhere after so many years of sightings. Mine happened 13 years ago. Other have had similar sightings that go back decades. The US Navy describes how they encountered tic-tacs which are cylindrical UFOs back in 2004. The phenomenon persists over the decades. Cylindrical? Are you talking about the blips on their radar screens. They didn't see an object...they saw blips. How far away would you say the 300 diameter cigar shaped thing flying very fast was from you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #32 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Trelane said: Can't provide a location? I'm calling B.S. No. I am not obliged to. Call it what you want. You are the first poster to have done it. Edited July 3 by MrAnderson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted July 3 #33 Share Posted July 3 On 7/1/2024 at 1:06 PM, MrAnderson said: I should have said the length instead of diameter. You're right and thanks for pointing this out to me. Okay...if the length was a football field, what was the width? Are we talking about a cigar thing the size of a football field? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #34 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, joc said: Cylindrical? Are you talking about the blips on their radar screens. They didn't see an object...they saw blips. How far away would you say the 300 diameter cigar shaped thing flying very fast was from you? Was it only radar blips? Are you sure? Did the pilots see only blips? The radar operators saw the blips but what about the pilots? Edited July 3 by MrAnderson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted July 3 #35 Share Posted July 3 1 minute ago, MrAnderson said: Was it only radar blips? Are you sure? Did the pilots saw only blips? The radar operators saw the blips but what about the pilots? I am not really sure I don't really go in for all the details of such things. They really don't interest me that much. I think the pilots saw the blips...someone correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #36 Share Posted July 3 1 minute ago, joc said: Okay...if the length was a football field, what was the width? Are we talking about a cigar thing the size of a football field? I can't be sure about the width from the viewpoint I had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted July 3 #37 Share Posted July 3 17 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Thank you! Have you had any strange experiences? It's always better if you are able to record them. A video or a photo make the cases much stronger. Sometimes it's way too difficult to to record these events when these objects are moving so fast. I did have that spooky experience, yes. I was very young and impressionable. And no chance to record it. Just something I'll have to be happy with having experienced, and also it was something that shaped my belief system. ciao 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #38 Share Posted July 3 1 minute ago, joc said: I am not really sure I don't really go in for all the details of such things. They really don't interest me that much. I think the pilots saw the blips...someone correct me if I am wrong. I think the radars picked up the objects and the pilots had a visual too on the tic tacs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #39 Share Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, joc said: I am not really sure I don't really go in for all the details of such things. They really don't interest me that much. I think the pilots saw the blips...someone correct me if I am wrong. These objects regardless of their size travel very fast and if you are on the ground your experience will not last for more than a few seconds. You don't even have time to react. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 3 #40 Share Posted July 3 28 minutes ago, Trelane said: Can't provide a location? I'm calling B.S. Yep.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 3 #41 Share Posted July 3 23 minutes ago, joc said: Okay...if the length was a football field, what was the width? Are we talking about a cigar thing the size of a football field? It's been proven that humans are horrible at gauging height and distance and size of some alleged object in the sky. These people who claim big as a lol Walmart or football field etc basing it on what? They are guessing that's all then they demand their guesses make it fact and reality it's not logical. The next issue I have is we have a lot of eyes on the skies both professionals and private and we never or basically never have collaborative reports of these huge objects racing across the skies all we get is a story about what the witness claims they saw. In another thread some retired military man claims they saw this Walmart sized craft lit up like a disco yet his is the only report of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #42 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 29 minutes ago, the13bats said: It's been proven that humans are horrible at gauging height and distance and size of some alleged object in the sky. These people who claim big as a lol Walmart or football field etc basing it on what? They are guessing that's all then they demand their guesses make it fact and reality it's not logical. The next issue I have is we have a lot of eyes on the skies both professionals and private and we never or basically never have collaborative reports of these huge objects racing across the skies all we get is a story about what the witness claims they saw. In another thread some retired military man claims they saw this Walmart sized craft lit up like a disco yet his is the only report of it. You haven't proven anything so far. All you're trying to say is that people misjudge heights and distances and they can't possibly determine the size of a UFO and the distance from the observer. Perhaps you should try again because all you did is to claim others are not good observers. Edited July 3 by MrAnderson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted July 3 #43 Share Posted July 3 56 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: These objects regardless of their size travel very fast and if you are on the ground your experience will not last for more than a few seconds. You don't even have time to react. According to most of the skeptics here, all the pilots were confused, locking on to each other, saw various planets, plasma balls, and a whole plethora of reasons other than what they reported seeing. If anyone from the public reports seeing something, (ex. Phoenix lights) then they're drunk, on drugs, seeing flares, drones, or trying to make a buck. The mental gymnastics they perform to explain away everything is both amusing, and sad at the same time. The archives here on UFO's is most entertaining. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 3 #44 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: You haven't proven anything so far. All you're trying to say is that people misjudge heights and distances and they can't possibly determine the size of a UFO and the distance from the observer. Perhaps you should try again because all you did is to claim others are not good observers. Failed diversion, try harder next time, not my burden to disprove made up stories. People did misjudge things in the sky it's well proven don't be so lazy go look it up. I missed where you posted proof of the object you claimed to have seen size , height distance and speed, you know the object you can't even remember where you saw it, Lol. Edited July 3 by the13bats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #45 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said: According to most of the skeptics here, all the pilots were confused, locking on to each other, saw various planets, plasma balls, and a whole plethora of reasons other than what they reported seeing. If anyone from the public reports seeing something, (ex. Phoenix lights) then they're drunk, on drugs, seeing flares, drones, or trying to make a buck. The mental gymnastics they perform to explain away everything is both amusing, and sad at the same time. The archives here on UFO's is most entertaining. This can't be serious reasoning imo. Pilots who are confused and observers on the ground who are drunk and a plethora of other less likely explanations. Looks like people are trying to explain away the sightings which shows some personal bias. Edited July 3 by MrAnderson 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 3 #46 Share Posted July 3 Just now, MrAnderson said: Thia can't be serious reasoning imo. Pilots who are confused and observers on the ground who are drunk and a plethora of other less likely explanations. Looks like people are trying to explain away the sightings which shows some personal bias. And some make claims of seeing things and can't even remember where they saw it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #47 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, the13bats said: Failed diversion, try harder next time, not my burden to disprove made up stories. I missed where you posted proof of the object you claimed to have seen size , height distance and speed, you know the object you can't even remember where you saw it, Lol. If you read my thread I never said I had a video or a photo to provide.Just the story for the people who are interested. You haven't proven or disproven anything. All you did is to state people are not good observers. Is this a rule or is it personal opinion? Because it sounds like personal opinion to me. Edited July 3 by MrAnderson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 3 Author #48 Share Posted July 3 1 minute ago, the13bats said: And some make claims of seeing things and can't even remember where they saw it. I remember well where I saw the UFO 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 3 #49 Share Posted July 3 Just now, MrAnderson said: If you read my thread I never said I had a video or a photo to provide.Jyst the story for the people who are interested. You haven't proven or disproven anything. All you did is to state people are not good observers. Is this a rule or is it personal opinion? Because it sounds like personal opinion to me. I knew you didn't have any collaborative supporting evidence of a sighting that you lol can't even remember where it took place. If the object was the size you claim then back that up or admit it was you just guessing. Stop being lazy go look it up people are terrible at judging size of objects in the sky, tests prove it, I can lead a horse to knowledge I can't make it think. 2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: I remember well where I saw the UFO You do?! Lol then post that little bit of info and stop making lame excuses that the real career military here already called you out on. You can stop humiliating yourself any time now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted July 3 #50 Share Posted July 3 Just wait til the insults start. Check out sky eagles thread for this. Or darn near any other thread on the subject. The funny thing is they quote scientists who deny their existence, yet if any scientists agree, and speak out that there is something beyond our science flying our skies, they are branded as kooks, grifters, or misinformed. Especially military personnel who had boots on the ground, or ship decks during an encounter. Many who've reported experiences in the past on this forum were literally driven away by the negative, and often insulting replies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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