My UFO Sighting

[Hankenhunter]

It's amazing how many armchair jet jockey pilots we have here, or professional armchair radar operators who feel they can poo, poo the real pilots, and radar operators. 

[MrAnderson]

28 minutes ago, the13bats said:

I knew you didn't have any collaborative supporting evidence of a sighting that you lol can't even remember where it took place.

If the object was the size you claim then back that up or admit it was you just guessing.

Stop being lazy go look it up people are terrible at judging size of objects in the sky, tests prove it, I can lead a horse to knowledge I can't make it think.

You do?! Lol then post that little bit of info and stop making lame excuses that the real career military here already called you out on. You can stop humiliating yourself any time now.

 

 

It's called a sighting for a reason!

I don't remember saying anything about having a video or a photo of the incident.

Who told you I can't remember where it took place? You're making it up! I remember well where it took place.

So you don't have any evidence to support the claim you made that people don't have good observation skills. It's just your personal opinion.

People who served in the military or elsewhere are not obliged to give out personal information. It's my policy and I always follow it. And why anyone will give personal information online? Have you?

 

Edited July 3 by MrAnderson

[MrAnderson]

27 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Just wait til the insults start. Check out sky eagles thread for this. Or darn near any other thread on the subject. The funny thing is they quote scientists who deny their existence,  yet if any scientists agree, and speak out that there is something beyond our science flying our skies, they are branded as kooks, grifters, or misinformed. Especially military personnel who had boots on the ground, or ship decks during an encounter. Many who've reported experiences in the past on this forum were literally driven away by the negative, and often insulting replies. 

It's becoming apparent to me some posters want their worldview affirmed but that's not how it works in real life. Everyone has their own experiences/knowledge and everyone is different.

The UFO sighting I described was a real experience but I never claimed I had proof. My experience lasted only for a few seconds and that was all. No time to react.

 

Edited July 3 by MrAnderson

[MrAnderson]

12 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

It's amazing how many armchair jet jockey pilots we have here, or professional armchair radar operators who feel they can poo, poo the real pilots, and radar operators. 

I find it problematic when pilots and radar operators are said to be confused or don't understand what they saw. These are trained professionals who are not confused and know what to do and how to do it.

[Hankenhunter]

3 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

It's called a sighting for a reason!

I don't remember saying anything about having a video or a photo of the incident.

Who told you I can't remember where it took place? You're making it up! I remember well where it took place.

So you don't have any evidence to support the claim you made that prole don't have good observation skills. It's just your personal opinion.

People who served in the military or elsewhere are not obliged to give out personal information. It's a policy I always follow. And why anyone will give personal information online? Have you?

 

I've asked many times for their bona fides that makes them an expert on all things UFO, and all you get are personal anecdotes that have no bearing whatsoever on the topic. Or they just get hostile. Best bet is to put the worst on ignore. Much more peaceful that way, as they'll never stop harassing you.

[MrAnderson]

4 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

I've asked many times for their bona fides that makes them an expert on all things UFO, and all you get are personal anecdotes that have no bearing whatsoever on the topic. Or they just get hostile. Best bet is to put the worst on ignore. Much more peaceful that way, as they'll never stop harassing you.

Nobody is an expert on UFOs. I see that what is claimed as evidence is most likely a personal opinion but to me a personal opinion is fine. For example it was claimed observers on the ground are not good in determining distances and heights. It's more of a personal opinion rather than fact.

[MrAnderson]

@Hankenhunter

Did you have any sightings in the past or any strange experiences?

[MrAnderson]

@the13bats

You reacted to one of my posts on the quality of pilots and radar operators.

Do you think pilots and radar operators are often getting confused and don't understand what they see?

One more question, on what basis did you claim ground observers are not good in determining lengths and heights.

[Hankenhunter]

6 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

@Hankenhunter

Did you have any sightings in the past or any strange experiences?

Yup, last year. Saw a super bright non-blinking light that moved fast across the night sky, then disappeared. I posted it here on the forum.

[the13bats]

23 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

It's called a sighting for a reason!

I don't remember saying anything about having a video or a photo of the incident.

Who told you I can't remember where it took place? You're making it up! I remember well where it took place.

So you don't have any evidence to support the claim you made that people don't have good observation skills. It's just your personal opinion.

People who served in the military or elsewhere are not obliged to give out personal information. It's my policy and I always follow it. And why anyone will give personal information online? Have you?

 

Lol, naming a city and state isn't all that personal but nice empty excuse.

The net is full of proof that humans are bad at gauging the size of things in the sky, if you were so lazy you would go look it up instead you use it as smoke and mirrors to take the light off the glaring fact you can not post how you calculated the size of the alleged object you claim to have seen.

I didn't make anything up prove you remember where your sighing took and post it rather lame excuses not to.

We already know you have zero to support your alleged sighting.

 

25 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

It's becoming apparent to me some posters want their worldview affirmed but that's not how it works in real life. Everyone has their own experiences/knowledge and everyone is different.

The UFO sighting I described was a real experience but I never claimed I had proof. My experience lasted only for a few seconds and that was all. No time to react.

 

Then stop doing it, all have is a story nothing to affirm past that which I confirm all you have is a story, your story can be whatever you desire but don't except rational people to believe it at face value.

Your alleged sighting was real only to you and anyone credious to believe it, not real past that.

Unless you bring something new to the table I'll just ignore your need to keep replying to me.

[the13bats]

9 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

@the13bats

You reacted to one of my posts on the quality of pilots and radar operators.

Do you think pilots and radar operators are often getting confused and don't understand what they see?

One more question, on what basis did you claim ground observers are not good in determining lengths and heights.

I guess you missed...

1 minute ago, the13bats said:

Unless you bring something new to the table I'll just ignore your need to keep replying to me.

Please evict me from living rent free in your head.

[MrAnderson]

Just now, the13bats said:

Lol, naming a city and state isn't all that personal but nice empty excuse.

The net is full of proof that humans are bad at gauging the size of things in the sky, if you were so lazy you would go look it up instead you use it as smoke and mirrors to take the light off the glaring fact you can not post how you calculated the size of the alleged object you claim to have seen.

I didn't make anything up prove you remember where your sighing took and post it rather lame excuses not to.

We already know you have zero to support your alleged sighting.

 

Then stop doing it, all have is a story nothing to affirm past that which I confirm all you have is a story, your story can be whatever you desire but don't except rational people to believe it at face value.

Your alleged sighting was real only to you and anyone credious to believe it, not real past that.

Unless you bring something new to the table I'll just ignore your need to keep replying to me.

I said sighting. I didn't say i have video proof of my sighting. I don't see where the problem is. I was honest and didn't change what I said.

The whole net is full of proof of what exactly? Because it sounds you try to push personal opinion as fact.

What excuses? I don't give my personal information online and only say what I believe I am comfortable with.

I never said I had something more than a story and a personal experience.

You need to try harder to bring something up because you're not having anything to say other than confirming what I said pretending you don't know what I said.

[the13bats]

4 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

I said sighting. I didn't say i have video proof of my sighting. I don't see where the problem is. I was honest and didn't change what I said.

The whole net is full of proof of what exactly? Because it sounds you try to push personal opinion as fact.

What excuses? I don't give my personal information online and only say what I believe I am comfortable with.

I never said I had something more than a story and a personal experience.

You need to try harder to bring something up because you're not having anything to say other than confirming what I said pretending you don't know what I said.

 

10 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Please evict me from living rent free in your head.

 

[MrAnderson]

9 minutes ago, the13bats said:

I guess you missed...

Please evict me from living rent free in your head.

I reply to your messages and replies. I am not following you (if this is what you meant). You do understand you're taking part in one my threads so I can't be following you.

The view you have and claim you made on the ground observers isn't true. It's just personal opinion.

[+joc]

1 hour ago, MrAnderson said:

You haven't proven anything so far. All you're trying to say is that people misjudge heights and distances and they can't possibly determine the size of a UFO and the distance from the observer. Perhaps you should try again because all you did is to claim others are not good observers.

Actually, there is nothing to prove.  Now, Mr. Anderson...before you get all combative with me let me just reassure you.  I don't think you are making anything up.  A friend of mine saw 'something'  and he too said it was as big as a 'football field'.  And his friend saw it too, when they were like 11 or 12 and they were so scared they hid under a trailer.  I don't think he made anything up either.  I am confident you saw what you saw and it looked exactly the way you described it.

That being said.  You also said you saw it for like 3 seconds.  That is quite enough time to know you saw something not in the normal range of the things you normally see.  However; memory is a very funny thing.  It is incredibly inaccurate and provably so.  In fact, the only 'memory' that will justify being held up as evidence in a court room is an eyewitness account where the person identifies the perpetrator out of a lineup.  We also know that our subconscious 'fills in' details and then feeds the conscious mind with these fill in accounts.  We are in fact our own AI.  

I know enough from talking to people and reading their stories to be able to tell those who actually believe they saw what they think they saw and those who are bsing.  I think  you believe you saw what you described.  So, there you go.  But/and...I personally don't believe it was anything abnormal.  Well, actually it was abnormal to you...at least it seemed abnormal...but that's just one of those things that makes us go hmmmm.    I have a very pareidolic mind.  I see dragon faces in the cedar trees.  All kinds of things in the clouds...I can just stare at a pattern of anything and see something that isn't actually there.  But I know it actually isn't there, and I know my artistic mind is just filling in details.   I have just never seen anything like what you saw.  I do know people who have though.  I just don't believe it was anything out of the ordinary...only that your perception of something abnormal created an anomaly of surrealism about something your conscious mind didn't really grasp.

Edited July 3 by joc

[MrAnderson]

4 minutes ago, joc said:

Actually, there is nothing to prove.  Now, Mr. Anderson...before you get all combative with me let me just reassure you.  I don't think you are making anything up.  A friend of mine saw 'something'  and he too said it was as big as a 'football field'.  And his friend saw it too, when they were like 11 or 12 and they were so scared they hid under a trailer.  I don't think he made anything up either.  I am confident you saw what you saw and it looked exactly the way you described it.

That being said.  You also said you saw it for like 3 seconds.  That is quite enough time to know you saw something not in the normal range of the things you normally see.  However; memory is a very funny thing.  It is incredibly inaccurate and provably so.  In fact, the only 'memory' that will justify being held up as evidence in a court room is an eyewitness account where the person identifies the perpetrator out of a lineup.  We also know that our subconscious 'fills in' details and then feeds the conscious mind with these fill in accounts.  We are in fact our own AI.  

I know enough from talking to people and reading their stories to be able to tell those who actually believe they saw what they think they saw and those who are bsing.  I think  you believe you saw what you described.  So, there you go.  But/and...I personally don't believe it was anything abnormal.  Well, actually it was abnormal to you...at least it seemed abnormal...but that's just one of those things that makes us go hmmmm.    I have a very pareidolic mind.  I see dragon faces in the cedar trees.  All kinds of things in the clouds...I can just stare at a pattern of anything and see something that isn't actually there.  But I know it actually isn't there, and I know my artistic mind is just filling in details.   I have just never seen anything like what you saw.  I do know people who have though.  I just don't believe it was anything out of the ordinary...only that your perception of something abnormal created an anomaly of surrealism about something your conscious mind didn't really grasp.

Good post and will reply tomorrow. I am not getting combative with anyone. My posts are normal but other posters prefer to be in a combat zone.

I can assure you my sighting was real. I didn't imagine things. Just as many pilots and ground observers had sightings in the past but they were real and on many occasions unexplained. 

[+joc]

1 hour ago, Hankenhunter said:

Just wait til the insults start. Check out sky eagles thread for this. Or darn near any other thread on the subject. The funny thing is they quote scientists who deny their existence,  yet if any scientists agree, and speak out that there is something beyond our science flying our skies, they are branded as kooks, grifters, or misinformed. Especially military personnel who had boots on the ground, or ship decks during an encounter. Many who've reported experiences in the past on this forum were literally driven away by the negative, and often insulting replies. 

Mr. Anderson is no SkyEagle Hank.  Hanks problem was that he was completely illogical and never backed off of his illogical mindset.  Insisting without fail that UFOs were real and the blips we were discussing were factual proof of ET.  MrAnderson has made no such claims.  In fact, all he has done is said he saw something strange that he couldn't explain.  

Edited July 3 by joc

[+joc]

2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Good post and will reply tomorrow. I am not getting combative with anyone. My posts are normal but other posters prefer to be in a combat zone.

I can assure you my sighting was real. I didn't imagine things. Just as many pilots and ground observers had sightings in the past but they were real and on many occasions unexplained. 

  Yeah, I don't really see you as combative at all.  Welcome to the forum btw! 

[Zebra3]

12 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

Just wait til the insults start. Check out sky eagles thread for this. Or darn near any other thread on the subject. The funny thing is they quote scientists who deny their existence,  yet if any scientists agree, and speak out that there is something beyond our science flying our skies, they are branded as kooks, grifters, or misinformed. Especially military personnel who had boots on the ground, or ship decks during an encounter. Many who've reported experiences in the past on this forum were literally driven away by the negative, and often insulting replies. 

It's what they do:

[Piney]

On 7/1/2024 at 5:19 AM, MrAnderson said:

Air-Force (can't say more, I mean details). Scientific research.

Right here. @Trelane 

[MrAnderson]

5 minutes ago, Piney said:

Right here. @Trelane 

I ve already replied to you in SkyEagle's thread.

That's precisely what I said. Do you see any of the word you and others used, the word 'classified'

Simply I don't disclose personal information online, not because my occupation is 'classified' (the word you used).

Are you satisfied now? If not perhaps you need to make an effort to convince yourself that when someone says he can't say more doesn't mean his work is classified.

Edited July 3 by MrAnderson

[diddyman68]

18 hours ago, joc said:

Mr. Anderson is no SkyEagle Hank.  Hanks problem was that he was completely illogical and never backed off of his illogical mindset.  Insisting without fail that UFOs were real and the blips we were discussing were factual proof of ET.  MrAnderson has made no such claims.  In fact, all he has done is said he saw something strange that he couldn't explain.  

Exactly @joc @MrAndersononly described something that he couldn't explain ,wanted to share his experience and wanted to know what um ers thought of it.of course the size ,speed can be hard to judge,and is the location even relevent ?. 

He never once said he thought it was aliens,the burden of proof is not on mr anderson as he has not claimed anything apart from something strange that he can't explain.

[MrAnderson]

5 minutes ago, diddyman68 said:

Exactly @joc @MrAndersononly described something that he couldn't explain ,wanted to share his experience and wanted to know what um ers thought of it.of course the size ,speed can be hard to judge,and is the location even relevent ?. 

He never once said he thought it was aliens,the burden of proof is not on mr anderson as he has not claimed anything apart from something strange that he can't explain.

For the record (I don't know if you followed the discussions) the object was huge around 300ft in length, making no sounds, having no wings or exhaust, and moving incredibly fast. Similar accounts have been given by many ground observers and pilots (latest accounts given by US Navy pilots, the tic tacs, although smaller in size)

[diddyman68]

18 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

For the record (I don't know if you followed the discussions) the object was huge around 300ft in length, making no sounds, having no wings or exhaust, and moving incredibly fast. Similar accounts have been given by many ground observers and pilots (latest accounts given by US Navy pilots, the tic tacs, although smaller in size)

I'm not saying i believe or don't believe your sighting, I'm saying i believe you seen what you seen,i enjoy hearing peoples experiences and try not to judge.

 

[Piney]

3 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

I ve already replied to you in SkyEagle's thread.

That's precisely what I said. Do you see any of the word you and others used, the word 'classified'

Simply I don't disclose personal information online, not because my occupation is 'classified' (the word you used).

Are you satisfied now? If not perhaps you need to make an effort to convince yourself that when someone says he can't say more doesn't mean his work is classified.

Usually when someone is anonymous and vague here they are full of ****.