Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 24 #101 Share Posted August 24 10 minutes ago, Mr.UFO said: Even if the aliens aren't actually on the probes, the existence of the probes themselves would still be amazing if they were sent by ETs. I certainly agree, hopefully in the near future will know one way or the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.UFO Posted August 24 #102 Share Posted August 24 On 7/2/2024 at 8:31 PM, MrAnderson said: I remember well where I saw the UFO Why not tell us? Is it a secret Army thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 24 #103 Share Posted August 24 25 minutes ago, Mr.UFO said: Why not tell us? Is it a secret Army thing? He wasn’t in the Army my friend! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 25 Author #104 Share Posted August 25 11 hours ago, Mr.UFO said: Why not tell us? Is it a secret Army thing? Somewhere in the US. I don't know if it's a secret Army project but I have never seen anything like that before this incident or after. Just take a look at the details I gave in my OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 25 Author #105 Share Posted August 25 11 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: He wasn’t in the Army my friend! That's not correct. I have served and worked for the Air-Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 25 Author #106 Share Posted August 25 On 8/24/2024 at 7:02 AM, herman.vs1 said: Wow I find your experience absolutely fascication. I can't understand what you are saying. Can you be more specific please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 25 Author #107 Share Posted August 25 17 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said: Hi Mr UFO and welcome, its always nice to see a personal account of something thought odd at the time. So if you have five min and not done so already post them. My sighting is as odd as the sightings of the UFO Navy Pilots and unexplained until this moment we speak. The capabilities of this huge object were extraordinary and nothing can match them from our conventional aircrafts. @MrsGently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 25 Author #108 Share Posted August 25 11 hours ago, Mr.UFO said: The con side of the argument is that the distances between planets is so vast. But I'm sure you have all heard the standard answer for that problem: wormholes. Some think that various UFOs don't even come from other planets at all, but simply from another dimension. An even wilder idea I have read is that the beings flying the UFOs live underground on Earth. All three theories would solve the distance problem. Not only the distances are vast but some posters think we have discovered all physics that exist and so in our minds only wormholes can solve the problem. That is not true. We are limited in our abilities and understanding. Our technological journey has just started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 25 #109 Share Posted August 25 4 hours ago, MrAnderson said: My sighting is as odd as the sightings of the UFO Navy Pilots and unexplained until this moment we speak. The capabilities of this huge object were extraordinary and nothing can match them from our conventional aircrafts. @MrsGently I was thinking about it... lol sorry it took a bit. Tictac but bigger. I was wondering that was probably a daytime sighting, right? So what if the classic saucer is the daytime front view, the elongation from the side view comes from the speed and gives us these cylinders, like those Cursor with a trail things? And that's the same thing under the lights and looks kind of like this picture when it comes towards you or stands still and like the video of the tictac we talked about when it's moving fast. Just a thought experiment. Possible, or not? The picture was called in as "bright pulsating object" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 25 #110 Share Posted August 25 (edited) Sorry got lost Edited August 25 by MrsGently wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 25 Author #111 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrsGently said: I was thinking about it... lol sorry it took a bit. Tictac but bigger. I was wondering that was probably a daytime sighting, right? So what if the classic saucer is the daytime front view, the elongation from the side view comes from the speed and gives us these cylinders, like those Cursor with a trail things? And that's the same thing under the lights and looks kind of like this picture when it comes towards you or stands still and like the video of the tictac we talked about when it's moving fast. Just a thought experiment. Possible, or not? The picture was called in as "bright pulsating object" Good thought and yes it was during daytime. I had a very clear view and I could see the shape of the object, it was cylindrical and very large with nothing resembling to a disk shape object. It had no wings, no exhaust, no cockpit, no wings, no engines. I estimated the length of the object to be around 300ft. Edited August 25 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 25 #112 Share Posted August 25 34 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Good thought and yes it was during daytime. I had a very clear view and I could see the shape of the object, it was cylindrical and very large with nothing resembling to a disk shape object. It had no wings, no exhaust, no cockpit, no wings, no engines. I estimated the length of the object to be around 300ft. What I mean (and it might pair nicely with Roswell, but that's just a side note) maybe it's not solid and more like this: See how elongated it gets at 0:29 + ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 25 #113 Share Posted August 25 9 hours ago, MrAnderson said: That's not correct. I have served and worked for the Air-Force. I didn’t say you weren’t in the military, I said you were not in the ARMY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted August 25 #114 Share Posted August 25 22 hours ago, Mr.UFO said: The con side of the argument is that the distances between planets is so vast. But I'm sure you have all heard the standard answer for that problem: wormholes. Some think that various UFOs don't even come from other planets at all, but simply from another dimension. An even wilder idea I have read is that the beings flying the UFOs live underground on Earth. All three theories would solve the distance problem. The only ways i can see aliens visiting this planet would be if they can somehow open a portal from another dimension,or if astral projection was a genuine thing ,if they knew about our planet they could project themselves here almost instantly. Both these theories depend on if it's even physically or mentally possible but they seem more plausible than flying for hundreds or thousands of years to get here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.UFO Posted August 25 #115 Share Posted August 25 2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: I didn’t say you weren’t in the military, I said you were not in the ARMY! That confused me too. The Air Force hasn't been part of the Army for 60-some years (they were still combined when the Roswell crash happened). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 26 #116 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, Mr.UFO said: That confused me too. The Air Force hasn't been part of the Army for 60-some years (they were still combined when the Roswell crash happened). Back then it was called the Army Air Corps, but your right they were still combined when the situation at Roswell occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 27 Author #117 Share Posted August 27 On 7/3/2024 at 1:38 AM, Hankenhunter said: Just wait til the insults start. Check out sky eagles thread for this. Or darn near any other thread on the subject. The funny thing is they quote scientists who deny their existence, yet if any scientists agree, and speak out that there is something beyond our science flying our skies, they are branded as kooks, grifters, or misinformed. Especially military personnel who had boots on the ground, or ship decks during an encounter. Many who've reported experiences in the past on this forum were literally driven away by the negative, and often insulting replies. This aged very well. And of course we know that pilots and radar operators or other ground observers and military personnel or civilians, haven't suddenly lost their minds over the UFO phenomenon. They just describe what they saw to theor best of their knowledge. The thing you said about the scientists is true. Just check the threads where Dr Michio Kaku is attacked because he doesn't agree with their narrative and their worldview. On the other hand he isn't the only one but it seems scientists are only criticised when they become very vocal. Someone even suggested that Kaku needs a clearence to speak his mind! I pointed out that Dr Kaku is a civilian who exercises his constitutional rights abd his academic freedom and needs no authorization from anyone to say what he wants to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 27 Author #118 Share Posted August 27 On 8/25/2024 at 9:11 PM, diddyman68 said: The only ways i can see aliens visiting this planet would be if they can somehow open a portal from another dimension,or if astral projection was a genuine thing ,if they knew about our planet they could project themselves here almost instantly. Both these theories depend on if it's even physically or mentally possible but they seem more plausible than flying for hundreds or thousands of years to get here. How do you know that they can't cover large distances? Is it risky to base our assessments in what we only know when we are probably a primitive species in relation to a civilization that could be millions of years ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 27 Author #119 Share Posted August 27 On 8/25/2024 at 5:39 PM, MrsGently said: What I mean (and it might pair nicely with Roswell, but that's just a side note) maybe it's not solid and more like this: See how elongated it gets at 0:29 + ? I get what it say but these objects have been seen both travelling at high speeds and stationary or moving at very low speeds. They were still cylindrical in appearance. The question that id intriguing though is could it be that they can change appearance and geometrical shape through some mechanism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 27 #120 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: I get what it say but these objects have been seen both travelling at high speeds and stationary or moving at very low speeds. They were still cylindrical in appearance. The question that id intriguing though is could it be that they can change appearance and geometrical shape through some mechanism? Nice yeah. Maybe it's just adaptive. Depending on purpose, for sure a "solid skin". If they are that fast underwater... they might be adaptive bubbles with liquid inside... all eyes wonder over to (the moon) Europa... Also: with those crazy maneuvers and speeds a liquid inside would be a great "buffer" to withstand them IF ... Edited August 27 by MrsGently add 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted August 28 #121 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 19 hours ago, MrsGently said: Nice yeah. Maybe it's just adaptive. Depending on purpose, for sure a "solid skin". If they are that fast underwater... they might be adaptive bubbles with liquid inside... all eyes wonder over to (the moon) Europa... Also: with those crazy maneuvers and speeds a liquid inside would be a great "buffer" to withstand them IF ... For delicate things inside any high speed craft it will be all about inertial damping, using some type of controlled damping 'field' This idea has been used in Sci fi for a very long time including star trek. The Higgs field gives mass to particles. Is there something that might control inertia as it alters due to speed changes ? Selectively removing nearly all mass would have a similar outcome. If everything did not fall apart? Edited August 28 by L.A.T.1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 28 #122 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 52 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: For delicate things inside any high speed craft it will be all about inertial damping, using some type of controlled damping 'field' This idea has been used in Sci fi for a very long time including star trek. The Higgs field gives mass to particles. Is there something that might control inertia as it alters due to speed changes ? Selectively removing nearly all mass would have a similar outcome. If everything did not fall apart? It was because the extreme maneuvers + the shape questions I have... but I don't remember where I read that submerged in a liquid basically is such an anti g-forces shield, the best I can do right now is quora, second answer: If I may add a little joke: withstanding g-forces, advantage for the fish people from Europa... lol it's funny because if there are fish people that's true Edited August 28 by MrsGently added bad joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted August 28 #123 Share Posted August 28 6 minutes ago, MrsGently said: It was because the extreme maneuvers + the shape questions I have... but I don't remember where I read that submerged in a liquid basically is such an anti g-forces shield, the best I can do right now is quora, second answer: A fluid will damp movement and support a body but only externally. Organs will try and move internally only restricted by the bodies structure, muscle, sinew. But short high G is possible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 29 Author #124 Share Posted August 29 18 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said: For delicate things inside any high speed craft it will be all about inertial damping, using some type of controlled damping 'field' This idea has been used in Sci fi for a very long time including star trek. The Higgs field gives mass to particles. Is there something that might control inertia as it alters due to speed changes ? Selectively removing nearly all mass would have a similar outcome. If everything did not fall apart? That's a very good question but so far we know there isn't something that can control inertia. If your velocity increases or decreases rapidly then you will be subjected to whatever forces casing this change. When an object drops rapidly from thousands of meters above sea level to sea level in a matter of seconds then whatever is inside wouldn't be able to survive this change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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