Former US Navy F-14 Pilot Recalls His UFO Sightings

[MrAnderson]

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Former US Navy F-14 pilot Doyle Borchers recalls his two UFO sightings giving some interesting details on what happened on two separate occasions while he was flying.

 

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Once as an F-14 test pilot flying a night mission returning from White Sands range in New Mexico to NAS Pt Mugu. The weather was bad in Mugu so we were diverted to NAS Miramar in San Diego. We were at 24,000 ft and both my Radar Officer and I saw a string of lights well below us on what we thought was the desert floor, but the continued to follow us at almost 500kts. As we turned, the lights followed us, and finally after about 10 minutes broke off and departed. I wanted to make a report, but my RIO wouldn’t back me up.’

 

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‘Second one was when I was flying and F-14 from Palma/Majorca to RNAS Yeovilton for an airshow back in 1976. Both my RIO and I saw a bright silver disk well above our altitude of 35,000ft. I would guess it was at about 70,000ft. It moved very quickly from our 10 o’clock high position to 3 o’clock, and I mean like a flash, and then was out of sight

 

The pilot concludes that in his mind there is no doubt UFOs are real.

Edited July 6 by MrAnderson

[MrAnderson]

The second sighting is of a silver disk with some common characteristics these UFOs have. First of all, it's a disk shape object (quite common), it travels at high altitude, its speed was very high and described by the pilot going from 10 o'clock to 3 o'clock like a flash and then out of sight.

 

[MrAnderson]

What do you think of his sightings?

@Grim Reaper 6 @Earl.Of.Trumps

@Hankenhunter

[Grim Reaper 6]

23 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/it-moved-like-a-flash-from-our-10-oclock-high-position-to-3-oclock-us-navy-f-14-pilot-recalls-odd-ufo-sightings-he-had-while-flying-the-mighty-tomcat/

 

Former US Navy F-14 pilot Doyle Borchers recalls his two UFO sightings giving some interesting details on what happened on two separate occasions while he was flying.

 

 

 

The pilot concludes that in his mind there is no doubt UFOs are real.

I believe we have been visited by extraterrestrial unmanned probes as far back in mankind’s history as you want to go. The main reason I am unable to except the visitation of extraterrestrial entities is based upon two factors.

1. To travel to earth they’re technology would so far beyond ours that we would have nothing to offer them that probes could not provide.

2. I think distance is a factor that can’t be overlooked, unless they have developed technology to build what we call an Einstein-Rosen Bridge. In my opinion and I could be wrong Warp and Light speed are not possible there are to many variables that prevent these techniques from being probable.

JIMHO

 

Edited July 6 by Grim Reaper 6

[Hankenhunter]

33 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

What do you think of his sightings?

@Grim Reaper 6 @Earl.Of.Trumps

@Hankenhunter

Good catch, Andy. 

 

27 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I believe we have been visited by extraterrestrial unmanned probes as far back in mankind’s history as you want to go. The main reason I am unable to except the visitation of extraterrestrial entities is based upon two factors.

1. To travel to earth they’re technology would so far beyond ours that we would have nothing to offer them that probes could not provide.

2. I think distance is a factor that can’t be overlooked, unless they have developed technology to build what we call an Einstein-Rosen Bridge. In my opinion and I could be wrong Warp and Light speed are not possible there are to many variables that prevent these techniques from being probable.

JIMHO

 

Actually Grim, scientists are now saying warp speed is possible, in theory, and are working on it now. Baby steps. Yesterday's science fiction, becomes today's reality. 

Edited July 6 by Hankenhunter

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 minute ago, Hankenhunter said:

Good catch, Andy. 

 

Actually Grim, scientists are now saying warp speed is possible, in theory, and are working on it now. Baby steps.

Actually, we are not at the theoretical point yet, it’s still only a hypothetical concept but who knows what the future may bring!

✌️

[MrAnderson]

44 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Actually, we are not at the theoretical point yet, it’s still only a hypothetical concept but who knows what the future may bring!

✌️

Check this one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

The Alcubierre wrap drive

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The Alcubierre drive ([alkuˈβjere]) is a speculative warp drive idea according to which a spacecraft could achieve apparent faster-than-light travel by contracting space in front of it and expanding space behind it, under the assumption that a configurable energy-density field lower than that of vacuum (that is, negative mass) could be created.[1][2] Proposed by theoretical physicist Miguel Alcubierre in 1994, the Alcubierre drive is based on a solution of Einstein's field equations. Since those solutions are metric tensors, the Alcubierre drive is also referred to as Alcubierre metric.

@Hankenhunter

@Earl.Of.Trumps

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Check this one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

The Alcubierre wrap drive

@Hankenhunter

@Earl.Of.Trumps

I know I just used Wikipedia myself in a previous post to you, however I only use it as a base source I don’t rely upon it for serious information. If you not familiar with it already I would recommend using Google Scholar as a reference source. Almost all the sources there are Peer Reviewed Academic Journals or Papers when it comes to scientific research there is nothing better without going to a pay site.

Here are the results for the Alcubierre wrap drive from Google Scholar.  https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Alcubierre+wrap+drive&btnG=

 

[Dejarma]

2 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

Former US Navy F-14 pilot Doyle Borchers recalls his two UFO sightings giving some interesting details on what happened on two separate occasions while he was flying.

the good ol' bandwagon's getting a bit full... still, easy to add a few more carts i guess zzzzzzz

[Dejarma]

45 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Here are the results for the Alcubierre wrap drive from Google Scholar.

what does this have to do with aliens here on earth?

[Grim Reaper 6]

Just now, Dejarma said:

what does this have to do with aliens here on earth?

Not much, in a previous post I said that I believed that Warp Drives were only hypothetical and most likely don’t exist in the universe. I told him that if extraterrestrials were to have a form inner stellar travel it would most likely be an Einstein-Rosen Bridge (wormhole). I also said that was just my opinion nothing more, and the WarpDrive concept was brought back into the conversation.

[Dejarma]

3 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Not much, in a previous post I said that I believed that Warp Drives were only hypothetical and most likely don’t exist in the universe. I told him that if extraterrestrials were to have a form inner stellar travel it would most likely be an Einstein-Rosen Bridge (wormhole). I also said that was just my opinion nothing more, and the WarpDrive concept was brought back into the conversation.

do you believe aliens are on this planet & are responsible for some or many ufo sightings=== yes or no?

[Grim Reaper 6]

11 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

do you believe aliens are on this planet & are responsible for some or many ufo sightings=== yes or no?

I don’t believe that extraterrestrials have ever visited earth. However, I believe that some of the UAPs (UFOs) may be unmanned extraterrestrial probes. I believe as a species we have nothing to offer an advanced extraterrestrial civilization, but I do believe if some of the UAPs are extraterrestrial that we may be interesting to watch from a far.

JIMHO

Edited July 6 by Grim Reaper 6

[Dejarma]

Just now, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I don’t believe that extraterrestrials have ever visited earth. However, I believe that some of the UAPs (UFOs) may be unmanned extraterrestrial probes.

that is the most pathetic get out reply i've seen in here!!! Really??? are you trying to insult my intelligence??

if unmanned extraterrestrial probes are here then aliens are here in whatever shape or form!! are you serious? really, or do you think you're talking to a child right now?

[Grim Reaper 6]

6 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

that is the most pathetic get out reply i've seen in here!!! Really??? are you trying to insult my intelligence??

There is nothing pathetic about it at all, it’s what I believe and so does a large portion of the academic community.

6 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

if unmanned extraterrestrial probes are here then aliens are here in whatever shape or form!! are you serious? really, or do you think you're talking to a child right now?

Who the hell do you think you are?

Because, while I don’t think your a child, your certainly acting one. My comments are based upon the consensus of the scientific community, I don’t believe in anything unless it can be quantified scientifically. I read your posts frequently and I never see you offer anything except your opinion, so enlighten me what is your opinion based upon in your comments above?

[Dejarma]

13 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I read your posts frequently and I never see you offer anything except your opinion

apart from my opinion what else is there to offer?

I'm assuming you're putting forward your opinions regarding the data at hand in here or are you suggesting what you say is fact? i'm confused

You believe alien drones are here yet not aliens in the flesh- explain the difference when talking about aliens visiting this planet

Edited July 6 by Dejarma

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 minute ago, Dejarma said:

apart from my opinion what else is there to offer?

You believe alien drones are here yet not aliens in the flesh- explain the difference when talking about aliens visiting this planet

The United States has sent probes into space that have left our solar system and that may continue to travel long after the human race no longer exists. If we are capable of doing that others across the Universe have certainly done the same thing. Our solar system is young in the grand scheme of things, the universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old, while our solar system is only 4.5 billion years old, which leaves a gap of 9.2 billion years. Now for approximately 3 or 4 billion years after the universal creation or simply until things settled down enough for life to begin. On earth to date the oldest discovered life forms are approximately 3.7 billion years old, which means that it only took 800 million years after creation for life to begin.

So, hypothetical life in other parts of the universe could have existed approximately 5 billion years before our solar system even formed. With that said any intelligent life would be billions of years older than us, some most likely died out before our species was born, however even then it’s possible that they sent probes on missions of discovery. It’s also theoretically possible that some of the intelligent species never died out which would make them billions of years more advanced than we are. In this case probes are not stretch of the imagination and their use is hypothetical possible. I can’t see an advanced extraterrestrial intelligent species bothering to come earth because we nothing to offer them so no I don’t believe that extraterrestrials have ever visited earth.

JIMHO

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

@Dejarma, you're off base here. @Grim Reaper 6's assessment of the situation drives the theory,

Our closest star is 4.25 light years away and would take us many thousands of years to get there. We do not send astronauts; we send autonomous vehicles to explore.

So, wouldn't beings in that Proxima Centauri star system be faced with the same thing? of course. So, sending autonomous vehicles here is quite logical.

 

Now quit being a jewel breaker 

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

@Dejarma, you're off base here. @Grim Reaper 6's assessment of the situation drives the theory,

Our closest star is 4.25 light years away and would take us many thousands of years to get there. We do not send astronauts; we send autonomous vehicles to explore.

So, wouldn't beings in that Proxima Centauri star system be faced with the same thing? of course. So, sending autonomous vehicles here is quite logical.

 

Now quit being a jewel breaker 

you believe physical aliens are here... so what am i off base with?

[Hankenhunter]

21 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

you believe physical aliens are here... so what am i off base with?

Bad manners, and anything resembling a rebuttal. 

[Trelane]

The Kepler and other missions have helped to inform us that life is not a ubiquitous as we would want to believe.

[Dejarma]

1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I don’t believe that extraterrestrials have ever visited earth.

therefore (as an example) you do not believe the stories of aliens recovered at Roswell I take it?

All these top people talking about alien encounters in books/ Tv docs/ films etc are lying then?

The likes of Travis Walton, Whitley Strieber (the list can go on) are all liars!! Is that what you're saying?

[Grim Reaper 6]

36 minutes ago, Trelane said:

The Kepler and other missions have helped to inform us that life is not a ubiquitous as we would want to believe.

That’s not exactly correct, with our latest technology we are only able to view 5% of the universe in any direction which equates to 14.26 gigaparsecs (46.5 billion light-years or 4.40×1026 m).

So personally, I don’t believe that a telescope is an accurate predictor of life in the universe.

JIMHO

Edited July 6 by Grim Reaper 6

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

therefore (as an example) you do not believe the stories of aliens recovered at Roswell I take it?

All these top people talking about alien encounters in books/ Tv docs/ films etc are lying then?

The likes of Travis Walton, Whitley Strieber (the list can go on) are all liars!! Is that what you're saying?

I follow the science, if something can’t be quantified I don’t believe it, plain and very simple. There is a difference between a lair and being bit delusional, in my opinion True Believers don’t except the scientific reality that is presented.

Jimho

[Dejarma]

3 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

 There is a difference between a lair and being bit delusional

Jimho

how do YOU work out that difference- just out of interest?

do you believe Travis Walton is telling the truth? yes or no

Edited July 6 by Dejarma