L.A.T.1961 Posted July 6 #1 Share Posted July 6 "Change begins now." Sir Keir promised a government that will be both "pro-business and pro-worker". Manifesto - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cml2en8xlxko Today Starmer axed the Rwanda plan. Strangely he was not asked about similar plans in various EU countries and if he backs or condemns their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted July 6 #2 Share Posted July 6 This is Kier Starmers reward for letting Jimmy Savile off the hook. He was in charge of the CPS when they decided not to prosecute Savile, his excuse is that it wasn't him who was dealing with it. He enabled a very bad person then distanced himself from blame despite being in charge. Hes got a history of shirking. So I think we'll have a war soon, not sure who with (names will probably go in a hat ), they'll probably conscript us then grant citizenship to all the illegals. That should get the pension bill down. Rule Britannia 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 6 #3 Share Posted July 6 The conservatives self destructed with Brexit and it’s been down hill since. But Sunak will go down in history as the worst PM to date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted July 6 #4 Share Posted July 6 17 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: The conservatives self destructed with Brexit and it’s been down hill since. But Sunak will go down in history as the worst PM to date. I think the descent started with Tony Blair then carried on throughout the Tory years and now the baton's been passed to this carry on cast. We'll be stuck with them for 12 years I reckon, after about 9 they'll strip the country bare again in preparation for the hand over. The same what just happened and what will happen again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted July 6 #5 Share Posted July 6 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: But Sunak will go down in history as the worst PM to date. You've got to recognize Liz "I am a fighter / I am resigning" Truss and Theresa "Im legalizing cannabis(for my husband and his friends)" May for their awful contributions as well. Edited July 6 by Mark_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted July 6 #6 Share Posted July 6 Will be interesting to see labours stance on the gaza war , especially since they are notoriously anti semetic and have have taken the knee to the muslim community, Will they continue supporting the Palestinians and hamas to appease all their muslim voters,or risk losing more people to the reform party. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 6 #7 Share Posted July 6 55 minutes ago, Mark_C said: You've got to recognize Liz "I am a fighter / I am resigning" Truss and Theresa "Im legalizing cannabis(for my husband and his friends)" May for their awful contributions as well. Oh Liz was in my equation. She just didn’t have any real time to puck up the country, just herself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 6 #8 Share Posted July 6 Just now, Unusual Tournament said: Oh Liz was in my equation. She just didn’t have any real time to puck up the country, just herself In 49 days she managed to lose us 20 billion and one queen. That's quite an achievement in its own way. Works out as 400 million per day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 6 #9 Share Posted July 6 52 minutes ago, diddyman68 said: Will be interesting to see labours stance on the gaza war , especially since they are notoriously anti semetic and have have taken the knee to the muslim community, Will they continue supporting the Palestinians and hamas to appease all their muslim voters,or risk losing more people to the reform party. I imagine they'll take the stance they set out in their manifesto. Call for a ceasefire and two state solution. Which is not supporting Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted July 7 #10 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, Setton said: In 49 days she managed to lose us 20 billion and one queen. That's quite an achievement in its own way. Works out as 400 million per day. Idk what happened but that 20 billion in 49 days sounds like the results of a politicians maths. Just saying , I don't like either side remember. We can't blame her for the Queen dying but there was something off about it all. The media seemed to know more than they were letting on. Idk if you heard about how they 'unalived' her granddad. Quote "When King George V died on 20 January 1936 the world was led to believe that he had died entirely of natural causes. Little did people know at the time that his death had been hastened by his physician in order to ensure that the news was reported first in The Times rather than the afternoon newspapers." https://review.gale.com/2017/10/04/the-death-of-george-v-as-reported-first-in-the-times/#:~:text=When King George V died,rather than the afternoon newspapers. Edited July 7 by Mark_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 7 #11 Share Posted July 7 6 hours ago, Mark_C said: Idk what happened but that 20 billion in 49 days sounds like the results of a politicians maths. Just saying , I don't like either side remember. Yeah, yeah you don't like either side, except it's obviously cheating when Labour do well but fine when it's the Tories. And if you don't know what happened, I suggest you make the effort to inform yourself so you don't make quite such a fool of yourself next time. Quote We can't blame her for the Queen dying but there was something off about it all. The media seemed to know more than they were letting on. Jesus, it was a joke. You really need to sort out your paranoia. There's no monkeys near you, right?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted July 7 #12 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Setton said: Jesus, it was a joke. You really need to sort out your paranoia. There's no monkeys near you, right?? I know but seeing as it wasn't funny I decided not to laugh. I guess I don't know a good comedian when I see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted July 7 #13 Share Posted July 7 17 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said: "Change begins now." Sir Keir promised a government that will be both "pro-business and pro-worker". Manifesto - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cml2en8xlxko Today Starmer axed the Rwanda plan. Strangely he was not asked about similar plans in various EU countries and if he backs or condemns their actions. Day 1: Rwanda scrapped and 'congestion charge' which was linked heavily to air pollution, confirms a move to tax electric vehicles £15 a day in London. The Liebour leader fluffs on day 1, shows he cannot direct a mayor from his own political allegiance. The substance of the manifesto was always missing and now ot is starting to be proven. And when Liebour put Lammy in as Foreign Secretary with Trump about to take office, after Lammy bad mouthed him....Trump doesn't forget. Its very poor people management by Liebour. Meanwhile, the UK suffers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 7 #14 Share Posted July 7 42 minutes ago, Mark_C said: I know but seeing as it wasn't funny I decided not to laugh. I guess I don't know a good comedian when I see one. Add it to the long list of things you don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted July 7 #15 Share Posted July 7 23 minutes ago, Setton said: Add it to the long list of things you don't know. If you have to argue about whether you're a good comedian or not I don't think the outcome of the argument affects the truth. 🤡 Have you got your red nose and oversized shoes on 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 7 #16 Share Posted July 7 42 minutes ago, Mark_C said: If you have to argue about whether you're a good comedian or not I don't think the outcome of the argument affects the truth. 🤡 Have you got your red nose and oversized shoes on 😅 If you had half the reading comprehension of the kids I used to teach you'd be dangerous 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted July 7 #17 Share Posted July 7 17 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: The conservatives self destructed with Brexit and it’s been down hill since. But Sunak will go down in history as the worst PM to date. Not so sure. Cameron gave us the gift of Brexit because he didn't stand up to the ERG. May triggered Article 50 before any plan for it was in place. Johnson normalized corruption and lying in Parliament. Truss tanked the economy. Sunak just lied continuously. They all stole as much taxpayer's money as they could and allowed public services to decline. Cameron takes the crown as worst in my book, because without him there would have been no Brexit, and it was Brexit that made it mandatory that only lying, corrupt, and ignorant chancers could form a govt.- no one with any intelligence, patriotism, or decency could become involved with it. Cameron also has got off best- despite his political failings and his corruption over Greensill, he is now a multi-millionaire and a Lord. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted July 7 #18 Share Posted July 7 23 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said: "Change begins now." Sir Keir promised a government that will be both "pro-business and pro-worker". Manifesto - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cml2en8xlxko Today Starmer axed the Rwanda plan. Strangely he was not asked about similar plans in various EU countries and if he backs or condemns their actions. To get the public services working again, he will need to get the economy growing. To do that, he will need to reset relations with the EU. The Tories have left him a colossal amount of work to do. He is starting from scratch with a failing state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted July 7 Author #19 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, pellinore said: To get the public services working again, he will need to get the economy growing. To do that, he will need to reset relations with the EU. The Tories have left him a colossal amount of work to do. He is starting from scratch with a failing state. As for the benefits of the EU I point you, not for the first time, in the direction of Germany and France. Labour criticized the Conservatives for not appreciating the NHS or train drivers or steel workers, to name a few. If he follows his own advice he will intervein on these issues and pay the man, or woman what they want. Unions will be insistent on this approach, this will be where Starmer and his Tory blame game comes unstuck. There is no way Starmer will override independent pay body's or Union/management negotiations. Nationalising things is a non starter unless he grabs assets and does not pay shareholders, I suspect that couldn't be called a pro business policy. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted July 7 #20 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, L.A.T.1961 said: As for the benefits of the EU I point you, not for the first time, in the direction of Germany and France. Irrelevant. We live in the UK, not Germany or France. They may have economic problems, but they are not caused by the single market. In fact, if they did not belong to the SM their difficulties would be worse- like the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 7 #21 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, pellinore said: Not so sure. Cameron gave us the gift of Brexit because he didn't stand up to the ERG. May triggered Article 50 before any plan for it was in place. Johnson normalized corruption and lying in Parliament. Truss tanked the economy. Sunak just lied continuously. They all stole as much taxpayer's money as they could and allowed public services to decline. Cameron takes the crown as worst in my book, because without him there would have been no Brexit, and it was Brexit that made it mandatory that only lying, corrupt, and ignorant chancers could form a govt.- no one with any intelligence, patriotism, or decency could become involved with it. Cameron also has got off best- despite his political failings and his corruption over Greensill, he is now a multi-millionaire and a Lord. Yeah Cameron is a pompous prick alright. The way he dummy spit the Brexit referendum was pure self destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted July 9 #22 Share Posted July 9 Dyson takes 1,000 jobs abroad. After the Rwanda buckle, now Dyson. I've looked at the cabinet and they just aren't fit for purpose, no experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 9 #23 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Dyson takes 1,000 jobs abroad. After the Rwanda buckle, now Dyson. Oh yeah, definitely because Labour got in. I suppose they moved their headquarters out of the UK in 2019 for the same reason? Rwanda wasn't "buckling", scrapping it was what the people voted for when they voted Labour in. You've got a real problem with democracy, don't you? Quote I've looked at the cabinet and they just aren't fit for purpose, no experience. Well thank goodness we have your deep expertise to evaluate them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted July 9 #24 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Setton said: Oh yeah, definitely because Labour got in. I suppose they moved their headquarters out of the UK in 2019 for the same reason? Rwanda wasn't "buckling", scrapping it was what the people voted for when they voted Labour in. You've got a real problem with democracy, don't you? Well thank goodness we have your deep expertise to evaluate them... Dyson could've stayed. He isn't staying. He can see the future. The FTSE has gone flatline. Rwanda option gone. Lammy made foreign secretary despite the fact Trump will have a surprise for Lammy. London Liebour mayor hoiks up the ULEZ scam immediately after the election as Starmer has no influence. Starmer sits their saying 'change' but still hasn't said how, like election was a sudden surprise. The cabinet has no experience beyond politics. And as a result of Liebour inaction, Farage stills grabs column inches. It is a very poor, slow, lacklustre start and still no plan. Liebour are clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 9 #25 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 43 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Dyson could've stayed. He isn't staying. He can see the future. The FTSE has gone flatline. Rwanda option gone. Lammy made foreign secretary despite the fact Trump will have a surprise for Lammy. London Liebour mayor hoiks up the ULEZ scam immediately after the election as Starmer has no influence. Starmer sits their saying 'change' but still hasn't said how, like election was a sudden surprise. The cabinet has no experience beyond politics. And as a result of Liebour inaction, Farage stills grabs column inches. It is a very poor, slow, lacklustre start and still no plan. Liebour are clueless. If you believe all that, the only one who's clueless is you. And willfully so. It's kind of sad to watch you go to pieces over losing an election. Edited July 9 by Setton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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