MrAnderson Posted July 8 #1 Share Posted July 8 A very nice documentary with a self-explanatory title. For those who haven't watched it yet, take your time with this one and watch it whenever you can. For those who have already watched the documentary, you can watch it again! 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zep73 Posted July 8 Popular Post #2 Share Posted July 8 Isn't that an oxymoron? U stands for unidentified. 5 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #3 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, zep73 said: Isn't that an oxymoron? U stands for unidentified. No. Seeing an unidentifying object means you have the knowledge and understanding it wasn't a meteor, or stars, or weather balloons, and whatever other explanation the 'debunkers' want to give when an event like this occurs. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted July 8 #4 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: No. Seeing an unidentifying object means you have the knowledge and understanding it wasn't a meteor, or stars, or weather balloons, and whatever other explanation the 'debunkers' want to give when an event like this occurs. No UFO/UAP has ever been identified as extraterrestrial. None. Ever. And people are too stupid to keep secrets. So it's all BS essentially. Edited July 8 by zep73 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 8 #5 Share Posted July 8 13 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: No. Seeing an unidentifying object means you have the knowledge and understanding it wasn't a meteor, or stars, or weather balloons, and whatever other explanation the 'debunkers' want to give when an event like this occurs. Are you saying that if a UFO isnt xyz it must be a real UFO...? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #6 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 12 minutes ago, zep73 said: No UFO/UAP has ever been identified as extraterrestrial. None. Ever. And people are too stupid to keep secrets. So it's all BS essentially. I don't think UFO means an object with an extraterrestrial origin. And in most of the UFO cases the witnesses say they saw a UFO and not an alien aircraft. But the possibility remains some of them could be of alien origin. You're making a big jump there by asserting whoever has a UFO sighting believes it must be of extraterrestrial origin. Edited July 8 by MrAnderson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #7 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Are you saying that if a UFO isnt xyz it must be a real UFO...? UFOs are mechanical objects and not meteors, stars, and weather balloons. They are material objects that have capabilities well beyond what we currently have. Edited July 8 by MrAnderson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted July 8 #8 Share Posted July 8 Just now, MrAnderson said: UFO are mechanical objects and not meteors, stars, and weather balloons. That is called speculation. It's a free form of thinking that requires no evidence. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 8 #9 Share Posted July 8 Just now, MrAnderson said: UFO are mechanical objects and not meteors, stars, and weather balloons. So a UFO has to be mechanical, ie made by someone? What about a UAP, does that also have to be made by someone? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #10 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hazzard said: So a UFO has to be mechanical, ie made by someone? What about a UAP, does that also have to be made by someone? You can use UAP I suppose for a more broader definition that encloses a lot of other things. Edited July 8 by MrAnderson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #11 Share Posted July 8 2 minutes ago, zep73 said: That is called speculation. It's a free form of thinking that requires no evidence. How is this a speculation when in UFO cases a material object is observed having extraordinary capabilities. Remember you started the argument by saying alien aircraft. When most of the UFO witnesses said they saw a UFO and not an alien aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #12 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 24 minutes ago, zep73 said: No UFO/UAP has ever been identified as extraterrestrial. None. Ever. And people are too stupid to keep secrets. So it's all BS essentially. What is your explanation on UFOs? I had a sighting once and the object I saw had a lot of the capabilities described in the documentarty and in many other UFO cases. For example it wa very fast (our airplanes can't go that fast), it made no sound, it had no wings, no exhaust, didn't emit any gases. It was cylindrical in shape. Edited July 8 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted July 8 #13 Share Posted July 8 4 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: How is this a speculation when in UFO cases a material object is observed having extraordinary capabilities. Remember you started the argument by saying alien aircraft. When most of the UFO witnesses said they saw a UFO and not an alien aircraft. Sorry Mr Anderson, I find the topic a tad boring, but please do carry on without me. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 8 #14 Share Posted July 8 30 minutes ago, zep73 said: That is called speculation. It's a free form of thinking that requires no evidence. I thought it was deducted reasoning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted July 8 #15 Share Posted July 8 6 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: I thought it was deducted reasoning Deduction requires something to deduct. Over and out. Please respect my choice to exit this thread. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 8 #16 Share Posted July 8 No stay let’s talk some more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 8 #17 Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, MrAnderson said: What is your explanation on UFOs? Listen.. here is the bottom line An observer NOT able to identify something airborn is far from exciting... eventually most of them are identified as known objects or atmospheric phenomenon. The reason we cant identify all of them is because the obvious lack of information when something is to small/ far away and is only seen for a couple of seconds. People love the unexplained (some even need it to get away from the struggles of everyday life) - Enter trolls, Biogfoot, Nessie, ghosts and ET. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #18 Share Posted July 8 12 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Listen.. here is the bottom line An observer NOT able to identify something airborn is far from exciting... eventually most of them are identified as known objects or atmospheric phenomenon. The reason we cant identify all of them is because the obvious lack of information when something is to small/ far away and is only seen for a couple of seconds. People love the unexplained (some even need it to get away from the struggles of everyday life) - Enter trolls, Biogfoot, Nessie, ghosts and ET. I was talking about UFOs that don't have any explanations or the explanation and conclusion is very difficult to draw. I know that a good number of what was initially perceived as a UFO turned out not to be an unexplained phenomenon. People like the unexplained and this may inflate the number of stories and claims made. I agree. But that's not what we're talking about here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 8 #19 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrAnderson said: I was talking about UFOs that don't have any explanations or the explanation and conclusion is very difficult to draw. People like the unexplained and this may inflate the number of stories and claims made. I agree. You are speaking into the choir here. Basically everyone here knows why a UFO is called a UFO. To this date I havent seen anything that proves a UFO being made by ET... have you? Quote I know that a good number of what was initially perceived as a UFO turned out not to be an unexplained phenomenon. Here is where it gets a little bit confusing. What did the identified UFO turn out to be then...?? Edited July 8 by Hazzard 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #20 Share Posted July 8 3 hours ago, Hazzard said: You are speaking into the choir here. Basically everyone here knows why a UFO is called a UFO. To this date I havent seen anything that proves a UFO being made by ET... have you? Here is where it gets a little bit confusing. What did the identified UFO turn out to be then...?? From the unexplained UFO phenomena and not the misidentifications and other related cases, we don't know what these objects are. We haven't proved UFOs are extraterrestrial in origin (that's true). It remains a possibility. But have we proved these are man made or it is assumed they are many made even if they are unexplained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 8 #21 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 50 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: But have we proved these are man made or it is assumed they are many made even if they are unexplained. The ones we have identified are either man made or atmospheric natural phenomenon. The rest is simply unexplained (still a UFO) because the lack of information we have about it. If we had that information and could explain ALL UFOs... Im pretty sure that none of them would be ET related. Edited July 8 by Hazzard 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted July 8 #22 Share Posted July 8 Wow. All new brand new comments, shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted July 8 #23 Share Posted July 8 4 hours ago, MrAnderson said: It remains a possibility. No, it really doesn't even come close on the possibility meter. Can you explain to me how I am wrong about that? Why does it remain a possibility? Is it a possibility that Life on other planets exist? Yep! More like a probability...there is probably life on other planets. Is it a possibility that there is Intelligent life? Yep! Is it a possibility that intelligent life from other star systems traveled to Earth? No...it isn't even conceivably possible. Any utterance you make to the contrary is total, complete science fiction bs. 4 hours ago, MrAnderson said: But have we proved these are man made Very close to the question...Have we proved that these are NOT man made? 4 hours ago, MrAnderson said: From the unexplained UFO phenomena and not the misidentifications and other related cases, we don't know what these objects are. We haven't proved UFOs are extraterrestrial in origin (that's true). It remains a possibility. But have we proved these are man made or it is assumed they are many made even if they are unexplained. Only people with no real understanding assume anything. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted July 8 #24 Share Posted July 8 12 hours ago, MrAnderson said: No. Seeing an unidentifying object means you have the knowledge and understanding it wasn't a meteor, or stars, or weather balloons, and whatever other explanation the 'debunkers' want to give when an event like this occurs. No it doesn't. It means...you don't know what the hell it is. You just said in a word salad that it is definitely Extra-Terrestrial. Nobody calls people who are only interested in the truth debunkers. Frauds, charlatans, and hacks call us 'debunkers'. Interesting to me that Sky Eagle hasn't been seen in quite sometime? And here you are filling in all of his blanks. I think Piney was absolutely correct...someone that doesn't want to give their personal information...any of it...is usually full of el excrimento. You came across like...did I say it was ET...no I did not... But here you are now saying that UFO IS definitely ET. Whatever.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #25 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, joc said: No, it really doesn't even come close on the possibility meter. Can you explain to me how I am wrong about that? Why does it remain a possibility? Is it a possibility that Life on other planets exist? Yep! More like a probability...there is probably life on other planets. Is it a possibility that there is Intelligent life? Yep! Is it a possibility that intelligent life from other star systems traveled to Earth? No...it isn't even conceivably possible. Any utterance you make to the contrary is total, complete science fiction bs. Very close to the question...Have we proved that these are NOT man made? Only people with no real understanding assume anything. I will disagree again because there are unexplained cases of objects that have capabilities we don't seem to have. And so the possibility of alien origin remains there. We haven't proven anything yet about the unexplained cases that are unlikely to be explained by conventional explanations. You are not getting what the word possibility means. Nobody has proven these objects are of terrestrial origin or extraterrestrial origin. Edited July 8 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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