MrAnderson Posted July 8 Author #26 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, joc said: No it doesn't. It means...you don't know what the hell it is. You just said in a word salad that it is definitely Extra-Terrestrial. Nobody calls people who are only interested in the truth debunkers. Frauds, charlatans, and hacks call us 'debunkers'. Interesting to me that Sky Eagle hasn't been seen in quite sometime? And here you are filling in all of his blanks. I think Piney was absolutely correct...someone that doesn't want to give their personal information...any of it...is usually full of el excrimento. You came across like...did I say it was ET...no I did not... But here you are now saying that UFO IS definitely ET. Whatever.... I didn't any anything about ET origin of these objects(there is a possibility some of them are) These are your own words of what you think it's 'word salad'. Debunkers are not interested in the truth imo. They want to assert their own worldview trying to debunk everything that doesn't in this view. My text is clear. Unexplained objects that have these characteristics are not meteors, stars, other physical phenomena, or balloons. They are mechanical objects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted July 9 #27 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, MrAnderson said: I didn't any anything about ET origin of these objects(there is a possibility some of them are) These are your own words of what you think it's 'word salad'. Debunkers are not interested in the truth imo. They want to assert their own worldview trying to debunk everything that doesn't in this view. My text is clear. Unexplained objects that have these characteristics are not meteors, stars, other physical phenomena, or balloons. They are mechanical objects. Cool...so you believe ETs exist and they are here. Why didn't you just say that from the start? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted July 9 #28 Share Posted July 9 16 hours ago, Hazzard said: So a UFO has to be mechanical, ie made by someone? What about a UAP, does that also have to be made by someone? Potatoe, potato.🥔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 9 Author #29 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, joc said: Cool...so you believe ETs exist and they are here. Why didn't you just say that from the start? I didn't say any of these in any of my posts. I think you have agreed on this a few days ago but making a comparison with another poster who has a different view on the subject. Quoting myself from the text "Unexplained objects that have these characteristics are not meteors, stars, other physical phenomena, or balloons. They are mechanical objects. " If you can find me a post where I said I believe these objects are of extraterrestrial origin.. These objects are a mystery and there is a possibility some of them may have an alien origin. We will need to wait and see. Edited July 9 by MrAnderson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted July 9 #30 Share Posted July 9 Mr Andersen, the MO for the naysayers on here is to twist small words and phrases and then expand that into ssyingbthe whole ufo phenomenon must be fake. Their problem is, a flying object that can have '40 B52's parked on one wing', witnessed by thousands, and they suggest it can't be from anywhere other than our planet. Unless there's a really really big mylar balloon. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #31 Share Posted July 9 57 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Mr Andersen, the MO for the naysayers on here is to twist small words and phrases and then expand that into ssyingbthe whole ufo phenomenon must be fake. Their problem is, a flying object that can have '40 B52's parked on one wing', witnessed by thousands, and they suggest it can't be from anywhere other than our planet. Unless there's a really really big mylar balloon. lol Produce the "flying object that can have '40 B52's parked on one wing'". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted July 9 #32 Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Produce the "flying object that can have '40 B52's parked on one wing'". As witnessed by hundreds if not thousands. I guess you believe they are all in on some elaborate hoax lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #33 Share Posted July 9 10 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: As witnessed by hundreds if not thousands. I guess you believe they are all in on some elaborate hoax lol Are you saying that this happened? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #34 Share Posted July 9 3 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Produce the "flying object that can have '40 B52's parked on one wing'". I don’t think he’s claiming he owns one. Produce it?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #35 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, preacherman76 said: I don’t think he’s claiming he owns one. Produce it?? I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #36 Share Posted July 9 41 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: As witnessed by hundreds if not thousands. I guess you believe they are all in on some elaborate hoax lol You're unsure of the number yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #37 Share Posted July 9 28 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Are you saying that this happened? I am. Hudson valley boomerang. Over 5000 people pulled over on the taconic parkway and watched a massive ufo fly slow and silent over head. Early 80’s. There were several of these sightings over a 5 year period in that area. From NYC to Connecticut. Unsolved mysteries did a whole show on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #38 Share Posted July 9 7 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: I am. Hudson valley boomerang. Over 5000 people pulled over on the taconic parkway and watched a massive ufo fly slow and silent over head. Early 80’s. There were several of these sightings over a 5 year period in that area. From NYC to Connecticut. Unsolved mysteries did a whole show on it. This one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Hudson_Valley_UFO_sightings#Identification "The 1984 Hudson Valley UFO Sightings, also called "The Westchester Boomerang", were UFO sightings that stretched throughout 1983–1984 in New York and Western Connecticut. Pilots flew Cessna 152s in tight formation with bright lights that could change colors. State police reported that the pilots expressed amusement at the confusion caused by their hoax. Subsequent news stories, books, and other publicity helped make the sightings significant in local history and ufology lore." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #39 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Hazzard said: This one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Hudson_Valley_UFO_sightings#Identification "The 1984 Hudson Valley UFO Sightings, also called "The Westchester Boomerang", were UFO sightings that stretched throughout 1983–1984 in New York and Western Connecticut. Pilots flew Cessna 152s in tight formation with bright lights that could change colors. State police reported that the pilots expressed amusement at the confusion caused by their hoax. Subsequent news stories, books, and other publicity helped make the sightings significant in local history and ufology lore." Yeah they actually started this after the first couple sightings. As you’d expect from ultra light air craft it was loud and difficult to keep formation over the very windy Hudson valley. Those who witness the original craft laughed at the attempt. ultra lights can’t hover. Yet hundreds of witnesses reported it doing so. Also it was illegal to fly these craft at night, and it was also illegal to fly anywhere near a nuclear power plant. But this craft visited the Indian point nuclear power plant twice in a two week period. No arrests were ever made. One of the security guards wrote a book on it called night siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #40 Share Posted July 9 4 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Yeah they actually started this after the first couple sightings. As you’d expect from ultra light air craft it was loud and difficult to keep formation over the very windy Hudson valley. Those who witness the original craft laughed at the attempt. ultra lights can’t hover. Yet hundreds of witnesses reported it doing so. Also it was illegal to fly these craft at night, and it was also illegal to fly anywhere near a nuclear power plant. But this craft visited the Indian point nuclear power plant twice in a two week period. No arrests were ever made. One of the security guards wrote a book on it called night siege. The wiki article says it's not illegal. Someone familiar with FAA regulations would be easily able to prove wiki false and it would be corrected. Can you cite the regs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #41 Share Posted July 9 I personally know several people, including my Mother and sister who witnessed this craft. With a military airport in the area, it was nothing to see craft fly in formation around here all the time. No one would describe such an event as silent. Its loud as hell, and can in no way be mistaken for what people saw that summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #42 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: The wiki article says it's not illegal. Someone familiar with FAA regulations would be easily able to prove wiki false and it would be corrected. Can you cite the regs? It’s not illegal today. It absolutely was then. It’s certainly illegal to fly anywhere near a nuclear power plant. These men would have done some serious time had they been the ones to buzz by it, twice. second time it floated next to a reactor for several minutes. That would be impressive for ultra light planes. Or any plane for that matter. Edited July 9 by preacherman76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #43 Share Posted July 9 Just now, preacherman76 said: I personally know several people, including my Mother and sister who witnessed this craft. With a military airport in the area, it was nothing to see craft fly in formation around here all the time. No one would describe such an event as silent. Its loud as hell, and can in no way be mistaken for what people saw that summer. And this made you believe it was an alien starship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #44 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, preacherman76 said: It’s not illegal today. It absolutely was then. So you're saying an expert would have to look up the historical regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #45 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hazzard said: And this made you believe it was an alien starship? Hu? Why would you come to that conclusion? Why are you guys so obsessed with needing to think we all believe these are aliens? It made me believe there was a massive craft being flown by something or someone with purpose. With intelligence. I don’t know or care anything about aliens. Edited July 9 by preacherman76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #46 Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: So you're saying an expert would have to look up the historical regulations. You are saying that. I’ve lived in the area most of my life. This was a big topic on the local radio shows and such. The lack of arrests was a main focal point in the discussions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #47 Share Posted July 9 Just now, preacherman76 said: You are saying that. I’ve lived in the area most of my life. This was a big topic on the local radio shows and such. The lack of arrests was a main focal point in the discussions. So were left with the conjecture that it the flight wasn't illegal. Technical information is quickly corrected on wikipedia. The discussions about thr corrections can also be read. The historical regulations are public imformation. If it was illegal, as you say, it would be easily proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #48 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 14 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: It made me believe there was a massive craft being flown by something or someone with purpose. With intelligence. I don’t know or care anything about aliens. Not to be that that guy, but to quote the Birdie - What else could it have been? In other words.. What do you believe it was? Edited July 9 by Hazzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #49 Share Posted July 9 6 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: So were left with the conjecture that it the flight wasn't illegal. Technical information is quickly corrected on wikipedia. The discussions about thr corrections can also be read. The historical regulations are public imformation. If it was illegal, as you say, it would be easily proven. Oh I don’t care to prove anything to you. I mean maybe I would if it were possible. I see you completely ignored the whole nuclear power plant thing. So I’m guessing you are trying to poke holes in what you think might be a weak spot in the story, while ignoring the glaring obvious strong spots. Unless you think flying unannounced air craft into a national secure air space is legal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #50 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, preacherman76 said: Oh I don’t care to prove anything to you. I mean maybe I would if it were possible. I see you completely ignored the whole nuclear power plant thing. So I’m guessing you are trying to poke holes in what you think might be a weak spot in the story, while ignoring the glaring obvious strong spots. Unless you think flying unannounced air craft into a national secure air space is legal. That would be subject to regulations too. So what was flying around a nuclear plant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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