MrAnderson Posted July 9 Author #51 Share Posted July 9 18 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Hu? Why would you come to that conclusion? Why are you guys so obsessed with needing to think we all believe these are aliens? It made me believe there was a massive craft being flown by something or someone with purpose. With intelligence. I don’t know or care anything about aliens. I had a similar sighting back in 2011 and it was a cylindrical huge object that was travelling very fast (faster than what we have), made no sounds, had no wings, no exhaust. (take a look at my threads) The possibility of alien origin cannot be excluded for some of these objects. Even if you don't come this conclusion or don't even accept this is a possibility the skeptics for some mysterious reason don't like discussions on the UFO subject no matter your views. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 9 Author #52 Share Posted July 9 5 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Mr Andersen, the MO for the naysayers on here is to twist small words and phrases and then expand that into ssyingbthe whole ufo phenomenon must be fake. Their problem is, a flying object that can have '40 B52's parked on one wing', witnessed by thousands, and they suggest it can't be from anywhere other than our planet. Unless there's a really really big mylar balloon. lol What you say is evident to me and other posters 🤗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 9 Author #53 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: As witnessed by hundreds if not thousands. I guess you believe they are all in on some elaborate hoax lol The probability that everyone is wrong or pulling a prank or misidentifying and even hallucinating, is very small. Most cases are coming from genuine witnesses who just explain what they saw. Ok some of these events may be explained later on but people usually describe what they see and often with a cost of getting ridiculed and stigmatized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #54 Share Posted July 9 5 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Unless you think flying unannounced air craft into a national secure air space is legal. I have flown over the white house once back in the 90s... far from on purpose but still. I totally expected something "bad" to happen when I realised how close I was, but nothing ever did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #55 Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: I had a similar sighting back in 2011 and it was a cylindrical huge object that was travelling very fast (faster than what we have), made no sounds, had no wings, no exhaust. (take a look at my threads) The possibility of alien origin cannot be excluded for some of these objects. Even if you don't come this conclusion or don't even accept this is a possibility the skeptics for some mysterious reason don't like discussions on the UFO subject no matter your views. Wow very cool. Yeah for me I absolutely believe in the existence of flying saucers. I don’t have another choice. I saw it. I didn’t see an alien though, so I don’t muddy the waters with things I have no personal reason to believe. That I have never personally witnessed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #56 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, MrAnderson said: The probability that everyone is wrong or pulling a prank or misidentifying and even hallucinating, is very small. Most cases are coming from genuine witnesses who just explain what they saw. Ok some of these events may be explained later on but people usually describe what they see and often with a cost of getting ridiculed and stigmatized. Sure. A perfect example would be the Phoenix Lights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #57 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, preacherman76 said: Wow very cool. Yeah for me I absolutely believe in the existence of flying saucers. I don’t have another choice. I saw it. I didn’t see an alien though, so I don’t muddy the waters with things I have no personal reason to believe. That I have never personally witnessed. So if not ET, who do you think are piloting these flying saucers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 9 #58 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Hazzard said: I have flown over the white house once back in the 90s... far from on purpose but still. I totally expected something "bad" to happen when I realised how close I was, but nothing ever did. I'm not so sure about restricted airspace around a nuclear powerplant in 1984. https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0322/ML032200098.pdf Edited July 9 by Golden Duck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #59 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Hazzard said: I have flown over the white house once back in the 90s... far from on purpose but still. I totally expected something "bad" to happen when I realised how close I was, but nothing ever did. You think you would have gotten away with it twice? The security guard there claimed to have called West Point and they sent a helicopter to protect the plant. As it approached the craft took off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #60 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Golden Duck said: I'm not so sure about restricted airspace around a nuclear powerplant om 1984. https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0322/ML032200098.pdf Thats what Im saying... of course its possible to buzz a powerplant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #61 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Hazzard said: So if not ET, who do you think are piloting these flying saucers? I don’t know. If I was forced to give an answer, I’d say it was probably men. I could be wrong though. I genuinely just don’t know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #62 Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: You think you would have gotten away with it twice? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #63 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, preacherman76 said: I don’t know. If I was forced to give an answer, I’d say it was probably men. I could be wrong though. I genuinely just don’t know. Nazis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 9 Author #64 Share Posted July 9 4 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: I don’t know. If I was forced to give an answer, I’d say it was probably men. I could be wrong though. I genuinely just don’t know. You shouldn't give an answer if you are not sure. Just like most people who are not sure what these objects are and if they have occupants. 'I don't know' it's a perfectly legitimate answer. The most common answer in science. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #65 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Thats what Im saying... of course its possible to buzz a powerplant. Yeah that was basically how it was spoken about at the time. Any craft not officially on a known flight path had to stay at least 5 miles from that air space. They certainly weren’t allowed to hover just feet from a main reactor. Edited July 9 by preacherman76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #66 Share Posted July 9 10 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Nazis? Maybe if it was 1940ish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #67 Share Posted July 9 12 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Absolutely. Well the White House wasn’t going to turn into a nuclear meltdown. Though I am surprised to hear that air defense wasn’t a thing in that location at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #68 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Well the White House wasn’t going to turn into a nuclear meltdown. Though I am surprised to hear that air defense wasn’t a thing in that location at the time. Oh it was. Not as "probibited" as it was after 911, but still restricted and a no fly zone. Edited July 9 by Hazzard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #69 Share Posted July 9 8 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: They certainly weren’t allowed to hover just feet from a main reactor. You have a link to where you got that information? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 9 #70 Share Posted July 9 24 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: I'm not so sure about restricted airspace around a nuclear powerplant om 1984. https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0322/ML032200098.pdf Now if you get anywhere near Salem and your not Forestry Service something from Dover will shoot you down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 9 #71 Share Posted July 9 22 minutes ago, Hazzard said: You have a link to where you got that information? I read the security guards book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 9 #72 Share Posted July 9 On 7/8/2024 at 3:09 AM, MrAnderson said: UFOs are mechanical objects and not meteors, stars, and weather balloons. They are material objects that have capabilities well beyond what we currently have. No. People misidentify Venus all the time. There is a long list of UFO cases that were proven to be Venus. Venus is not a mechanical object. Nor are balloons like the Mylar balloon that i saw. Nor are birds which was another UFO I and three other photographers saw. You need to learn more about UFOlogy before making sweeping statements like this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 9 Author #73 Share Posted July 9 46 minutes ago, astrobeing said: No. People misidentify Venus all the time. There is a long list of UFO cases that were proven to be Venus. Venus is not a mechanical object. Nor are balloons like the Mylar balloon that i saw. Nor are birds which was another UFO I and three other photographers saw. You need to learn more about UFOlogy before making sweeping statements like this one. I ve seen a UFO myself in 2011 and I am among millions of people who know what we saw! It wasn't a meteor, a star, a planet like Venus(!) weather balloon. The characteristics of my sighting and the sightings of genuine UFOs are unique. No sound, no wings, no exhaust, no propulsion system that we know of, travelling at incredible speeds and speeding away at incredible accelerations. Perhaps it's you who needs a bit of information and not to reproduce official false narratives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted July 9 #74 Share Posted July 9 On 7/8/2024 at 12:14 AM, MrAnderson said: A very nice documentary with a self-explanatory title. For those who haven't watched it yet, take your time with this one and watch it whenever you can. For those who have already watched the documentary, you can watch it again! That was very interesting. Thank you for sharing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 9 #75 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, MrAnderson said: I ve seen a UFO myself in 2011 and I am among millions of people who know what we saw! If you know what you saw it wouldnt be a UFO anymore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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