Zebra3 Posted July 9 #76 Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, astrobeing said: You need to learn more about UFOlogy before making sweeping statements like this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 9 Author #77 Share Posted July 9 3 hours ago, Hazzard said: If you know what you saw it wouldnt be a UFO anymore. I know it was a mechanical object and unidentified (origins and manufacturer unknown). If what you're saying was true then nobody would use the same phrase 'I saw a UFO' But we still use the same phrase everywhere (newspapers for example, online articles, the Armed Forces, Police, and scientists use the same phrase) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 10 #78 Share Posted July 10 On 7/9/2024 at 10:37 AM, MrAnderson said: I ve seen a UFO myself in 2011 and I am among millions of people who know what we saw! It wasn't a meteor, a star, a planet like Venus(!) weather balloon. The characteristics of my sighting and the sightings of genuine UFOs are unique. No sound, no wings, no exhaust, no propulsion system that we know of, travelling at incredible speeds and speeding away at incredible accelerations. Perhaps it's you who needs a bit of information and not to reproduce official false narratives. What official false narratives are you referring to? Are you claiming I'm lying? There are things in the sky that have every attribute you listed. They are not extraterrestrial craft. OK, maybe you are SkyEagle after all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 10 #79 Share Posted July 10 On 7/9/2024 at 3:48 PM, MrAnderson said: I know it was a mechanical object and unidentified (origins and manufacturer unknown). How did you determine this? Please tell us step by step. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 11 Author #80 Share Posted July 11 40 minutes ago, astrobeing said: What official false narratives are you referring to? Are you claiming I'm lying? There are things in the sky that have every attribute you listed. They are not extraterrestrial craft. OK, maybe you are SkyEagle after all. Like what? What are there things that travel at incredible speeds, make no sounds, have no wings, no exhaust, no known propulsion systems and can stop instantly and then again accelerate at incredible speeds. Can you name me the objects the US Air Force has in its poccession that can do it. You don't have to be the other poster to have noticed these objects have extraordinary capabilities. It's already known because the pilots, servicemen and civilians, have brought it to our attention long time ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 11 Author #81 Share Posted July 11 38 minutes ago, astrobeing said: How did you determine this? Please tell us step by step. Happened to have served in the Air Force and know how to recognise mechanical objects. 300ft in length, cylindrical in shape. Travelling at a speed I ve never seen before, making no sounds, having no wings, no cockpit, no windows, no exhaust. There is no object that I know of that can travel at this speed and make no sounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 11 #82 Share Posted July 11 18 hours ago, MrAnderson said: Like what? What are there things that travel at incredible speeds, make no sounds, have no wings, no exhaust, no known propulsion systems and can stop instantly and then again accelerate at incredible speeds. No such things like this exist in the universe because they break the laws of physics. That's how we know they don't exist. Saying at they do exist show that you don't know anything about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted July 11 #83 Share Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, astrobeing said: No such things like this exist in the universe because they break the laws of physics. That's how we know they don't exist. Saying at they do exist show that you don't know anything about them. That was a pathetic response. It shows you have no experience with anything you're commenting on. Wow. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 11 #84 Share Posted July 11 18 hours ago, MrAnderson said: Happened to have served in the Air Force and know how to recognise mechanical objects. But of course you can't tell us how you determined it was mechanical, Mr. Anderson. Because you can't. 18 hours ago, MrAnderson said: 300ft in length, What process did you use to determine its length, Mr. Anderson? What did you use as a reference? Do you know that things farther away look smaller, Mr. Anderson? 18 hours ago, MrAnderson said: Travelling at a speed I ve never seen before, How you determine its speed, Mr. Anderson? Do you know that objects closer to your eyes can appear to be moving faster than more distant objects? You need a reference to determine an object's speed. 18 hours ago, MrAnderson said: making no sounds, having no wings, no cockpit, no windows, no exhaust. I have seen many such objects before and none were extraterrestrial spacecraft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 11 #85 Share Posted July 11 Just now, Zebra3 said: That was a pathetic response. It shows you have no experience with anything you're commenting on. Wow. I had no idea that believing that the laws of physics exist is a pathetic thing. I guess I'll have to throw away my master's degree. Wow yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 11 Author #86 Share Posted July 11 20 minutes ago, astrobeing said: No such things like this exist in the universe because they break the laws of physics. That's how we know they don't exist. Saying at they do exist show that you don't know anything about them. Who said they break the laws of physics? And what laws are you referring to? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 11 Author #87 Share Posted July 11 15 minutes ago, astrobeing said: But of course you can't tell us how you determined it was mechanical, Mr. Anderson. Because you can't. What process did you use to determine its length, Mr. Anderson? What did you use as a reference? Do you know that things farther away look smaller, Mr. Anderson? How you determine its speed, Mr. Anderson? Do you know that objects closer to your eyes can appear to be moving faster than more distant objects? You need a reference to determine an object's speed. I have seen many such objects before and none were extraterrestrial spacecraft. What objects travel without making sounds, are cylindrical, have no wings, no exhaust, and all other properties I ve described. Can you name me the aircraft the US Force has in it's pocession with these characteristics? Because you have seen these objects many times you said. Who said anything about extraterrestrial craft? It's you confusing what I said. Answering your questions, I sm a good observer and a physicist and can determine distances. I still can hear well and the object was making no sounds. I can see very well too. The object was cylindrical with no wings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 11 #88 Share Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Who said they break the laws of physics? And what laws are you referring to? OK, I have to explain physics to you now, Mr. "I was in the Air Force"? You don't know anything about momentum or conservation of energy or sonic boom or atmospheric friction? None of those things? Well that would explain why you mistakenly believe these things are objects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 11 Author #89 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 2 minutes ago, astrobeing said: OK, I have to explain physics to you now, Mr. "I was in the Air Force"? You don't know anything about momentum or conservation of energy or sonic boom or atmospheric friction? None of those things? Well that would explain why you mistakenly believe these things are objects. Yes try me. As someone with several years in academia I suppose I can get some lessons in physics. It's a jackpot for you because that my area, physics and mathematics. Which laws of physics are broken? I never said anything about them. Edited July 11 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted July 11 #90 Share Posted July 11 (edited) From my sighting, OUR laws of physics absolutely do not apply to whatever the hell it was. Edited July 11 by Zebra3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 11 #91 Share Posted July 11 15 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Which laws of physics are broken? I never said anything about them. Oh my gosh I just told you which laws! What a waste of time you are! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 11 #92 Share Posted July 11 15 minutes ago, Zebra3 said: From my sighting, OUR laws of physics absolutely do not apply to whatever the hell it was. So you feel that the laws of physics must simply be dismissed to explain what you thought you saw. Have you ever seen magic performed? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 11 #93 Share Posted July 11 28 minutes ago, astrobeing said: OK, I have to explain physics to you now, Mr. "I was in the Air Force"? You don't know anything about momentum or conservation of energy or sonic boom or atmospheric friction? None of those things? Well that would explain why you mistakenly believe these things are objects. In another thread he said he was in the Army and is a scientist who does "research" for the A.F. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 11 #94 Share Posted July 11 Just now, Piney said: In another thread he said he was in the Army and is a scientist who does "research" for the A.F. The plot thickens. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted July 11 #95 Share Posted July 11 35 minutes ago, astrobeing said: So you feel that the laws of physics must simply be dismissed to explain what you thought you saw. Have you ever seen magic performed? I saw it, not 'thought I saw', more wordplay. The physics isn't dismissed, it may be something we may not understand quite as well as we think we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 11 #96 Share Posted July 11 On 7/9/2024 at 9:21 AM, Hazzard said: I have flown over the white house once back in the 90s... far from on purpose but still. I totally expected something "bad" to happen when I realised how close I was, but nothing ever did. I'm gonna guess nothing bad happened because they looked into who you were and what you did and figured a mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 11 #97 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Hazzard said: The plot thickens. It certainly isn't Sky Turkey though. The writing style is different. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 11 #98 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Zebra3 said: The physics isn't dismissed, it may be something we may not understand quite as well as we think we do. Like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted July 11 #99 Share Posted July 11 Aspects of physics we can't understand yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 11 Author #100 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, astrobeing said: Oh my gosh I just told you which laws! What a waste of time you are! What are these laws? Conservation of energy-momentum? Can you explain how these laws are broken if these events are happening. Maybe it's our understanding of physics that hasn't been advanced yet to the point we find this indistinguishable from magic. Remember who said this?; Edited July 11 by MrAnderson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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