Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act opposed by Democrats

[Michelle]

48 minutes ago, Setton said:

So what ID can people get in the US that would meet the requirements and is free?

Because if you can't name them, she's right. It's tantamount to a poll tax.

A Social Security number.

[Setton]

4 minutes ago, Michelle said:

A Social Security number.

Does that have a photo attached? Genuine question, I've no idea what ID is linked to your number.

We just brought in requiring photographic ID to vote in the UK (based on absolutely no evidence of voter fraud) but you can apply for a free voter ID if you don't already have an accepted form.

[acidhead]

3 hours ago, Portre said:

It is already illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. What part of this statement don't you understand? 

Who knew seeing a screenshot of the vote yesterday can be so triggering.  

😂

[acidhead]

15 hours ago, Agent0range said:

Errors can happen, yes.  But what are the odds of the error occurring and then the person voting illegally?  

Good question. I have no idea what those odds are. 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

5 minutes ago, Michelle said:

A Social Security number.

Non-citizens can get a SSN if they're here for valid work reasons and also they can get a SSN in order to receive benefits if required by a state or federal law. 

Just a short list of things that require an ID.

Buy Alcohol
Buy Cigarettes
Bank Account
Food Stamps
Apply for Welfare
Apply for Medicaid/Social Security
Apply for unemployment or a job
Rent/buy a house, apply for a mortgage
Drive/buy/rent a car
Travel by Air
Get Married
Purchase a Gun
Rent a hotel room
Apply for a license for hunting/fishing etc.
Buy a cell phone
Prescription medicine

Saying that requiring an ID is tantamount to a poll tax for voting is disingenuous. There is little anyone can do in the U.S. without some form of an ID.

[Agent0range]

4 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Saying that requiring an ID is tantamount to a poll tax for voting is disingenuous. There is little anyone can do in the U.S. without some form of an ID.

You need an ID to register to vote.  Would you like people to mail in the Driver's License with their mail in ballot as well?

[acidhead]

3 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Jimmy Klass fits this topic pretty well:

Florida man stunned to learn he's not a US citizen after voting, paying taxes for over 60 years (nypost.com)

Wait until Americans find out about voting laws in Israel/Palestine. You know, that tiny country in the heart of the Middle East that "shares" values with the good ol USA. 

[Portre]

On 7/11/2024 at 10:55 AM, acidhead said:

Who knew seeing a screenshot of the vote yesterday can be so triggering.  

😂

You didn't answer the question. Do you understand it is illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections? This vote you seem so proud of will do nothing to prevent the voter fraud that is not happening. 

[Myles]

On 7/13/2024 at 11:13 AM, Portre said:

You didn't answer the question. Do you understand it is illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections? This vote you seem so proud of will do nothing to prevent the voter fraud that is not happening. 

Photo ID's need to be required.  

There are laws against assassinating people but more needs done besides a law.

[Gromdor]

16 hours ago, Myles said:

Photo ID's need to be required.  

There are laws against assassinating people but more needs done besides a law.

Weird fact- All the states with problems in the last election had voter ID laws.

[Myles]

9 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Weird fact- All the states with problems in the last election had voter ID laws.

Did they all require photo ID?

[Gromdor]

2 minutes ago, Myles said:

Did they all require photo ID?

Yup.  

[DarkHunter]

2 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Yup.  

Except that isn't true

In Arizona for example an alternative to photo ID was two documents from this list

• Utility bill in the voter's name
• Bank or credit union statement that is dated within 90 days of the date of the election
• Valid Arizona vehicle registration
• Arizona vehicle insurance card
• Indian census card
• Property tax statement
• Recorder's certificate or voter registration card
• Tribal enrollment card or other tribal ID
• Valid U.S. federal, state, or local government-issued ID with a printed name and address or
• Any mailing in the voter's name that is labeled "official election material"

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_ID_in_Arizona

[Gromdor]

10 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Except that isn't true

In Arizona for example an alternative to photo ID was two documents from this list

• Utility bill in the voter's name
• Bank or credit union statement that is dated within 90 days of the date of the election
• Valid Arizona vehicle registration
• Arizona vehicle insurance card
• Indian census card
• Property tax statement
• Recorder's certificate or voter registration card
• Tribal enrollment card or other tribal ID
• Valid U.S. federal, state, or local government-issued ID with a printed name and address or
• Any mailing in the voter's name that is labeled "official election material"

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_ID_in_Arizona

That law was enacted in 2021.  But eh, details..

I guess more to the point- None of the states with problems had issues with voter verification.  All the claims were fake ballots and rigged voting machines,

Edited July 16 by Gromdor

[DarkHunter]

4 hours ago, Gromdor said:

That law was enacted in 2021.  But eh, details..

I guess more to the point- None of the states with problems had issues with voter verification.  All the claims were fake ballots and rigged voting machines,

That's funny cause here is a link to the AZ law as it was in 2019

https://law.justia.com/codes/arizona/2019/title-16/section-16-579/

It seems that AZ was allowing none photo ID as voter verification before 2020.