Woman 'scratched by ghost' during tour of haunted asylum

[the13bats]

3 hours ago, Guyver said:

It’s there.  It’s between 10 - 30 minutes.  Did you watch the video?

Idk my fault I thought for some reason you meant like a more unbiased actually science based example where skin is shown clean and the person and camera don't move and bang scratches appear like magic ( or a special effects)
I saw that same show years back when it aired wonder what happened to that guy making those claims?
I saw nothing but a tabloid type show that supports paranormal for profit and being dramatic with bad actors showing shelf climes inflicted injuries and i don't see any prefect skin going to scratched up abused skin in front of a camera, I did see near chaos , a lot is going on in that segment it's hardly an example of spontaneous scratches forming,  yet I see how a true believer ( not saying you are one ) goes away thinking it proves paranormal not unlike believers who think some psychic readings are dead on forgetting all the misses only picking out the what they call hits.
People have said I have psychic gifts, I assure you do not.

 

[Guyver]

48 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Idk my fault I thought for some reason you meant like a more unbiased actually science based example where skin is shown clean and the person and camera don't move and bang scratches appear like magic ( or a special effects)
I saw that same show years back when it aired wonder what happened to that guy making those claims?
I saw nothing but a tabloid type show that supports paranormal for profit and being dramatic with bad actors showing shelf climes inflicted injuries and i don't see any prefect skin going to scratched up abused skin in front of a camera, I did see near chaos , a lot is going on in that segment it's hardly an example of spontaneous scratches forming,  yet I see how a true believer ( not saying you are one ) goes away thinking it proves paranormal not unlike believers who think some psychic readings are dead on forgetting all the misses only picking out the what they call hits.
People have said I have psychic gifts, I assure you do not.

 

You think science studies poltergeist scratches?  Really?  That doesn’t seem like an unrealistic expectation to you?

[openozy]

8 hours ago, Guyver said:

I don’t know how it could.  

I mean sort of like pointing the bone, people have died because of their belief. The mind is extremely powerful. I personally think it could be a negative entity(not a human spirit) but looking at other answers first.

[Guyver]

38 minutes ago, openozy said:

I mean sort of like pointing the bone, people have died because of their belief. The mind is extremely powerful. I personally think it could be a negative entity(not a human spirit) but looking at other answers first.

Yes, but if people can’t move things with their minds, how could they make scratch marks appear without scratching?  

[openozy]

1 hour ago, Guyver said:

Yes, but if people can’t move things with their minds, how could they make scratch marks appear without scratching?  

I experienced psychokinesis a few months ago, I have a witness so I have no doubt about this. I do believe the mind could make physical changes to the body if the intention is strong enough.

[the13bats]

5 hours ago, Guyver said:

You think science studies poltergeist scratches?  Really?  That doesn’t seem like an unrealistic expectation to you?

Do I think science takes claims of poltergeist seriously? No, of course not and you know me better than even ask that.

2 hours ago, Guyver said:

Yes, but if people can’t move things with their minds, how could they make scratch marks appear without scratching?  

Padre pio was I guess the most phamous as in phony to make claims of paranormal supernatural wounds, and has pretty much been well debunked starting with his own church,
Idk about claims of special powers to be able to inflect injury on one self or others with paranormal powers or the claims spookies have nothing better to do.
I've seen no evidence to support such claims which if true there would be, but if you have any please post it.

[Guyver]

9 hours ago, the13bats said:

Do I think science takes claims of poltergeist seriously? No, of course not and you know me better than even ask that.

Padre pio was I guess the most phamous as in phony to make claims of paranormal supernatural wounds, and has pretty much been well debunked starting with his own church,
Idk about claims of special powers to be able to inflect injury on one self or others with paranormal powers or the claims spookies have nothing better to do.
I've seen no evidence to support such claims which if true there would be, but if you have any please post it.

Has it been proven that Padre Pio was faking?

[the13bats]

6 hours ago, Guyver said:

Has it been proven that Padre Pio was faking?

Proven 100% fake? Hum, idk because with religion beliefs are powerful things I guess same applies to true believers of anything,
Last I read someone claimed he used acid to keep thewounds raw, and keep in mind most times he wore fingerless gloves.
Big Red flag for me was his wound location was wrong for crucifixion.
I never researches into it much but if the stories of monks who can control their heart rate temp etc with meditation mind training are true then could we make a leap that a person like that could make a scratch appear on their skin, very different processes involved, I'm good with saying idk but of course I don't think people can move objects Jedi style or ghosts if they did exist scratch people.
In my thinking with all the stories and claims if spookies could interact with people it would be easy to prove.
I rescue cats and play with them I get bit and scratched and within reason I could likely film my hand looking normal then a seeping little bloody scratch would appear.
If my wife is game perhaps I'll try it.