French police stand by as migrants leave Normandy beach for Britain.

[itsnotoutthere]

French police have been photographed standing by as a small boat filled with migrants sets off across the Channel.

Around a dozen officers, some of whom had riot shields and batons, were seen at the water’s edge on a beach in Gravelines in Normandy.

The beach is a popular launching point for migrants who often hide in the nearby sand dunes for days before attempting the crossing.

Migrants have previously told The Telegraph they would travel to the UK “as soon as possible” following Labour’s victory.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/french-police-stand-by-as-migrants-leave-normandy-beach-for-britain/ar-BB1pNTrh?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=501664f2cca045f4d1f7364632dff5b0&ei=21

[pellinore]

It wasn't a problem before you-know-what.

[Destination Unknown]

27 minutes ago, pellinore said:

It wasn't a problem before you-know-what.

Yes it was, they just tried to break into lorries coming back across from Calais instead, until they shut the camps down. All they've done is changed their methods, so don't try and pretend it wasn't happening before Brexit pellinore, because you'd be lying.

https://www.channel4.com/news/the-first-calais-migrant-camp-fifteen-years-of-shanty-towns

Edited July 11 by Destination Unknown

[+OverSword]

That looks unsafe AF. 

@pellinore See that?  They would rather risk their lives in a shallow overloaded rubber raft across the English Channel to post brexit England than stay in the EU.  Should tell you something 

[L.A.T.1961]

It looks like having their new mates Starmer and Lammy, wishing for closer ties with EU, in charge over here makes no difference.

As you might expect. 

 

Edited July 11 by L.A.T.1961

[pellinore]

44 minutes ago, OverSword said:

That looks unsafe AF. 

@pellinore See that?  They would rather risk their lives in a shallow overloaded rubber raft across the English Channel to post brexit England than stay in the EU.  Should tell you something 

It tells me they want to come to the UK. What does it tell you?

[L.A.T.1961]

8 minutes ago, pellinore said:

It tells me they want to come to the UK. What does it tell you?

They might be on route to Ireland, at least those who have not been told the Rwanda deal is dead. 
Those who know will be setting up camp in Downing street, close to their new mate. 

 

Edited July 11 by L.A.T.1961

[+OverSword]

8 minutes ago, pellinore said:

It tells me they want to come to the UK. What does it tell you?

They want to come to the UK because they feel they will have a better life there than the EU obviously.  

[pellinore]

9 minutes ago, OverSword said:

They want to come to the UK because they feel they will have a better life there than the EU obviously.  

Well, you are obviously wrong, as only 6% want to come to the UK. The UK is right near the bottom of favoured European destinations. It is one of Farage's main lies that they all want to come to the UK:

The International Organisation for Migration carried out over 4,000 interviews with migrants earlier this year. It found that 6% of migrants “interviewed along the Central Mediterranean route” from North Africa to Italy said they intended to reach the UK.

Of those travelling through Hungary and the Balkans, the UK wasn’t a popular enough destination to be singled out in the analysis, which says that most wanted to reach Germany.

That tallies with another IOM study of 473 Iraqis now living in Europe, which asked about intended destination at the time of departure. Again, almost half chose Germany, and only a handful the UK. While almost one in three ended up in a different country to that intended, hardly anyone in this study reported a frustrated desire to get to Britain.

Why do migrants and asylum seekers want to come to the UK? – Full Fact

Edited July 11 by pellinore

[pellinore]

17 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

They might be on route to Ireland, at least those who have not been told the Rwanda deal is dead. 
Those who know will be setting up camp in Downing street, close to their new mate. 

 

Less than a hundred asylum seekers have travelled to the UK under the new Labour govt. A couple of hundred thousand under the Tory govts.

Edited July 11 by pellinore

[+OverSword]

21 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Well, you are obviously wrong, as only 6% want to come to the UK. The UK is right near the bottom of favoured European destinations. It is one of Farage's main lies that they all want to come to the UK:

The International Organisation for Migration carried out over 4,000 interviews with migrants earlier this year. It found that 6% of migrants “interviewed along the Central Mediterranean route” from North Africa to Italy said they intended to reach the UK.

Of those travelling through Hungary and the Balkans, the UK wasn’t a popular enough destination to be singled out in the analysis, which says that most wanted to reach Germany.

That tallies with another IOM study of 473 Iraqis now living in Europe, which asked about intended destination at the time of departure. Again, almost half chose Germany, and only a handful the UK. While almost one in three ended up in a different country to that intended, hardly anyone in this study reported a frustrated desire to get to Britain.

Why do migrants and asylum seekers want to come to the UK? – Full Fact

And yet they risk life and limb in a 8 inch draft rubber raft to get there.  People only do that when they feel it's the best option for them.

[Destination Unknown]

28 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Less than a hundred asylum seekers have travelled to the UK under the new Labour govt. A couple of hundred thousand under the Tory govts.

Stop telling lies pellinore. Do you seriously believe we don't have access to that sort of information?

According to official Government figures on their own website, there were 419 asylum seeker arrivals by boat on Tuesday July 9th alone, with 65 arriving the day before, so why are you blatantly lying pellinore?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

Edited July 11 by Destination Unknown

[Setton]

56 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

It looks like having their new mates Starmer and Lammy, wishing for closer ties with EU, in charge over here makes no difference.

As you might expect. 

It's been 6 days after 14 years of Tories burning bridges. Just what exactly were you expecting in that time?

Edited July 11 by Setton

[pellinore]

58 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

Stop telling lies pellinore. Do you seriously believe we don't have access to that sort of information?

According to official Government figures on their own website, there were 419 asylum seeker arrivals by boat on Tuesday July 9th alone, with 65 arriving the day before, so why are you blatantly lying pellinore?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

I was guessing. I didn't bother to check the figures. I assumed more asylum seekers arrived under the various Tory govts than have arrived under the new Labour govt. I'm pretty sure I'm right about that.

[Destination Unknown]

2 hours ago, pellinore said:

I was guessing. I didn't bother to check the figures. I assumed more asylum seekers arrived under the various Tory govts than have arrived under the new Labour govt. I'm pretty sure I'm right about that.

Well considering those various Tory governments had been in office since 2010 then yeah, it's a pretty safe bet to assume that more asylum seekers had arrived in the UK in the last 14 years than in the 6 days that the present Labour gov't had been in office, but that still doesn't get you away from the fact that you blatantly lied when you claimed that less than a hundred asylum seekers have travelled to the UK under the new Labour govt though does it. 🤦

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

Edited July 11 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

6 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

Well considering those various Tory governments had been in office for 14 years then yeah, it's a pretty safe bet to assume that more asylum seekers had arrived in the UK in the last 14 years than in the 6 days that the present Labour gov't had been in office, but it still doesn't get you away from the fact that you blatantly lied when you claimed that less than a hundred asylum seekers have travelled to the UK under the new Labour govt though does it. 🤦

Lied? Or just made a mistake? Why would I lie about something that could be so easily checked? There is something wrong with you. Still upset that your Populist govt has been booted out, I suppose.

[Destination Unknown]

28 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Lied? Or just made a mistake? Why would I lie about something that could be so easily checked?

I don't know pellinore, why did you lie about something that could be so easily checked and claim that less than a hundred asylum seekers have travelled to the UK under the new Labour govt, when you could have just checked it for yourself and told the truth instead?

28 minutes ago, pellinore said:

There is something wrong with you. Still upset that your Populist govt has been booted out, I suppose.

Don't try and turn it around and blame it on me pellinore just because I've exposed your blatant lies for all to see.

Edited July 11 by Destination Unknown

[OpenMindedSceptic]

6 hours ago, pellinore said:

It wasn't a problem before you-know-what.

Before the EU?.

Before wokeism?

True 

[pellinore]

1 hour ago, Destination Unknown said:

  when you could have just checked it for yourself and told the truth instead?

Because I'm not obsessed with the numbers of asylum seekers, like you. I couldn't care less. 

And if you really cared about immigration, you would be worried about the 2 million legal immigrants who have been invited to the UK since, and because of, Brexit.

And if you cared about immigrants who have really caused the UK harm, you would be campaigning to get Kwasi Kwarteng, Suella Braverman, Priti Patel, Rishi Sunak and Nadhim Zahawi booted out for starters.

And Ben Habib could be ejected for good measure (not that he has any power, he is just such an immoral little ignoramus).

[OpenMindedSceptic]

4 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Because I'm not obsessed with the numbers of asylum seekers, like you. I couldn't care less. 

And if you really cared about immigration, you would be worried about the 2 million legal immigrants who have been invited to the UK since, and because of, Brexit.

And if you cared about immigrants who have really caused the UK harm, you would be campaigning to get Kwasi Kwarteng, Suella Braverman, Priti Patel, Rishi Sunak and Nadhim Zahawi booted out for starters.

And Ben Habib could be ejected for good measure (not that he has any power, he is just such an immoral little ignoramus).

I care about the NHS. I care about DWP. They cannot cope, the poor public sector luvvies, with the population increase.

Stop illegal immigrants, make the EU a better place that people don't want to run away from.

[pellinore]

4 hours ago, OverSword said:

And yet they risk life and limb in a 8 inch draft rubber raft to get there.  People only do that when they feel it's the best option for them.

In all seriousness, one of the pull factors is English. It is why the US is also a magnet. English is the universal language (for example all airline pilots must have passable English) and is taught to children in most countries. 

If you want to get a job, and your only languages are Swahili and English, or Hindi and English, you are not going to get very far in France or Spain (although, paradoxically, Hungary and Germany are the favoured destinations of people seeking asylum in Europe, possibly because they are more favourably disposed to asylum seekers).

[pellinore]

2 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

I care about the NHS. I care about DWP. They cannot cope, the poor public sector luvvies, with the population increase.

Stop illegal immigrants, make the EU a better place that people don't want to run away from.

None of this makes sense, except the first sentence (though I doubt you intend it to be taken literally).

Try to make your point when you are sober.

[Destination Unknown]

26 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Because I'm not obsessed with the numbers of asylum seekers

So if you're not obsessed with the numbers of asylum seekers then why did you blatantly lie and claim that less than a hundred asylum seekers have travelled to the UK under the new Labour govt, whilst at the same time claiming a couple of hundred thousand had travelled to the UK under the Tory govts then pellinore?

[pellinore]

8 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

So if you're not obsessed with the numbers of asylum seekers then why did you blatantly lie and claim that less than a hundred asylum seekers have travelled to the UK under the new Labour govt, whilst at the same time claiming a couple of hundred thousand had travelled to the UK under the Tory govts then pellinore?

Go home, you're drunk. We'll talk about it tomorrow.

[OpenMindedSceptic]

18 minutes ago, pellinore said:

None of this makes sense, except the first sentence (though I doubt you intend it to be taken literally).

Try to make your point when you are sober.

I know Liebour devotees cannot understand, their blind faith is adorable but logic fails them, or is it just that short term view without the ability to see the longer term strategic issues? 

Liebour are killing the NHS, just like the gas and oil industries.

Meanwhile the price of water is going up about 70% in August in London.

Higher unemployment, high immigration, higher living costs... they've hasmd years to plan for day 1 but nothing happened and then Starmer runs away to NATO for champagne.