Harvard & Montana Academics On The Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis

[Piney]

Just now, Dejarma said:

therefore what's the point of the paper do you think, just out of interest. I say these so called bloody academics should put their brains to better use.

personally i'd say it's a stupid to waist time effort & no doubt money on something so bloody stupid!!

if this is an example of a modern academic brain then god help us all

Somebody wasted good grant money on this..

[MrAnderson]

2 minutes ago, Piney said:

It doesn't need to be examined given current understanding. 

It's garbage....

That's your view referring to the statement that there should be no examination. This is where they disagree and I am sure you will find others who have the same position.

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

So you say the forum is only for scientific facts and not personal views and opinions/beliefs. I can hardly see it. Much of what is posted is personal opinion.

No, I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is why post an article by authors that are unqualified to speak about the subject matter and especially when they tell you that the article is bogus and the information within it is false. The only reason you would do that is because in your opinion the subject matter is true and you want to discuss it. If you want to discuss something, you don’t have to supply a source, just present a tile and say it’s an opinion. But in the future it’s best not to post trash like the source you posted for this thread.

JIMHO

2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Does it not worth the effort and time to post the paper especially when it comes from there academics who express their opinion on UFOs and have said that their hypothesis is most likely wrong but needs to be examined.

 

[Piney]

1 minute ago, MrAnderson said:

That's your view referring to the statement that there should be no examination. This is where they disagree and I am sure you will find others who have the same position.

Nobody who actually has a decent background in earth sciences or archaeology would even "entertain" it.

 

[MrAnderson]

6 minutes ago, Piney said:

Somebody wasted good grant money on this..

Not that much. Just a paper.

Will you say that string theory is waste of money and effort/time?

[Piney]

Just now, MrAnderson said:

Not that much. Just a paper.

Will you say that string theory is waste of money and effort/time?

That's actually a theory. Not something pulled out of someone's ass. 

[Dejarma]

16 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

I didn't say anything on stating opinion as fact or accusing others.

I know 'you' didn't!!! 'I' did = I'm making a point generally

[MrAnderson]

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

No, I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is why post an article by authors that are unqualified to speak about the subject matter and especially when they tell you that the article is bogus and the information within it is false. The only reason you would do that is because in your opinion the subject matter is true and you want to discuss it. If you want to discuss something, you don’t have to supply a source, just present a tile and say it’s an opinion. But in the future it’s best not to post trash like the source you posted for this thread.

JIMHO

 

Never said the subject matter is true. Not even the authors have said it. This isn't a scientific paper but they approach the subject from a philosophical viewpoint.

I have given the source and the link if you have noticed. In the link they clearly state this is their personal opinion and not anything factual. Then they argue no matter how impossible something seems people should be open minded and discuss it or examine the hypothesis.

 

[Piney]

Just now, MrAnderson said:

Never said the subject matter is true. Not even the authors have said it. This isn't a scientific paper but they approach the subject from a philosophical viewpoint.

We already know your a Standup Philosopher.

[MrAnderson]

8 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's actually a theory. Not something pulled out of someone's ass. 

No results nothing to expect in the future. It's a mathematical theory with not much to support it. You can do a PhD in the area, get paid and even have a career. But string theory is based on mathematical speculation and not on experimental or observational evidence. There is no evidence any of string theory is correct. As we say in physics it's a dead end.

Edited July 12 by MrAnderson

[Dejarma]

8 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Will you say that string theory is waste of money and effort/time?

A non sequitur question

[Unusual Tournament]

5 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's actually a theory. Not something pulled out of someone's ass. 

Not someone’s ass but speculative reasoning. 

[Hazzard]

49 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Come on! Belief and personal opinion are not subject to proof or even evidence.

Why would I be demanding evidence?

Im fully aware that he said "I have come to believe there are beings in our earth plane".... 

I just thought it might be interesting to read what had him convinced.

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

No results nothing to expect in the future. It's a mathematical theory with not much to support it. You can do a PhD in the area, get paid and even have a career. But string theory is based on mathematical speculation and not on experimental or observational evidence. There is no evidence any of string theory is correct. As we say in physics it's a dead end.

I saw a government grant written to study why little girls mangle Barbie dolls. It doesn't get stupider than that.

[MrAnderson]

1 minute ago, Hazzard said:

Why would I be demanding evidence?

Im fully aware that he said "I have come to believe there are beings in our earth plane".... 

I just thought it might be interesting to read what had him convinced.

Ok true.

[Unusual Tournament]

2 minutes ago, Piney said:

I saw a government grant written to study why little girls mangle Barbie dolls. It doesn't get stupider than that.

No chit, Piney. But surely trying to explain unexplained phenomena that perplexes the military and intelligence agencies is not a waste of money?

[Dejarma]

30 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Does it not worth the effort and time to post the paper especially when it comes from there academics who express their opinion on UFOs and have said that their hypothesis is most likely wrong but needs to be examined.

examined by who do you think? who's going to examine it? examine what? i'm interested in your thoughts here😉

[MrAnderson]

2 minutes ago, Piney said:

I saw a government grant written to study why little girls mangle Barbie dolls. It doesn't get stupider than that.

I just made the point that even wthat you may consider to be evidence based research could be speculation at a mathematical level like string theory. But you get grants and a career sometime ls on these areas.

[Grim Reaper 6]

13 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Never said the subject matter is true. Not even the authors have said it. This isn't a scientific paper but they approach the subject from a philosophical viewpoint.

I have given the source and the link if you have noticed. In the link they clearly state this is their personal opinion and not anything factual. Then they argue no matter how impossible something seems people should be open minded and discuss it or examine the hypothesis.

 

Then why the hell did you post it, what purpose does it serve ------ NONE!!!!

[MrAnderson]

1 minute ago, Dejarma said:

examined by who do you think? who's going to examine it? examine what? i'm interested in your thoughts here😉

Their hypothesis by the other academics

[Dejarma]

Just now, MrAnderson said:

Their hypothesis by the other academics

scientists do you mean? what is there to examine?

[MrAnderson]

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Then why the hell did you post it, what purpose does it serve ------ NONE!!!!

I found the article interesting because it was written by three academics and their explanation good. They said no matter how impossible something seems people should not reject it outright.

[Golden Duck]

8 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Why would I be demanding evidence?

Im fully aware that he said "I have come to believe there are beings in our earth plane".... 

I just thought it might be interesting to read what had him convinced.

Do you mean having a discussion on a discussion forum?  That's a novel concept.

This movement to stifle any discussion that isn't supernatural or paranormal is not rational.

[MrAnderson]

1 minute ago, Dejarma said:

scientists do you mean? what is there to examine?

Academics in general. Their hypothesis. It's on the paper. Others will outright reject it others will be more open to it.

[Piney]

3 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

No chit, Piney. But surely trying to explain unexplained phenomena that perplexes the military and intelligence agencies is not a waste of money?

Not with that lame brain idea. 

1 minute ago, MrAnderson said:

Their hypothesis by the other academics

A earth scientist with a background in archaeology and geology  just did it for you.