L.A.T.1961 Posted July 16 #1 Share Posted July 16 One of the more interesting claims made about the search for ET. Featuring an Italian mathematician's discovery. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 16 #2 Share Posted July 16 First, let’s dispense with some conspiratorial ideas. There are people who believe that if proof of aliens were found, the news would be buried – probably at the instigation of the federal government....... https://www.seti.org/what-happens-if-we-find-signal 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 16 #3 Share Posted July 16 49 minutes ago, Hazzard said: First, let’s dispense with some conspiratorial ideas. There are people who believe that if proof of aliens were found, the news would be buried – probably at the instigation of the federal government....... https://www.seti.org/what-happens-if-we-find-signal I believe it would be nearly impossible to cover up long term, I am certain that whistleblowers would come out of the woodwork. JIMHO 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 16 #4 Share Posted July 16 With all the leaks and spying going on, this sort of secret would not have been bottled up very long. Certainly not over the last 30-40 years. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 16 #5 Share Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, Trelane said: With all the leaks and spying going on, this sort of secret would not have been bottled up very long. Certainly not over the last 30-40 years. From the link I posted... Experience with false alarms and deliberate signal hoaxes has shown that the immediate aftermath of picking up a transmission could not be handled in the simple manner proscribed in the Declaration. Consider what occurred in 1997, when a signal was detected that, for about a day, seemed to be both genuine and extraterrestrial. Because there is no policy of secrecy, this detection quickly became known outside the research community. Within 15 hours, the New York Times placed a call to the Institute, asking about the story. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAlrakis Posted July 16 #6 Share Posted July 16 he made some interesting vids in the past but he seems to have lost the plot. Going for clickbait, and hence money. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 16 #7 Share Posted July 16 There are many whistle blowers. Soon as they blow the whistle, you all call them crazy. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted July 16 #8 Share Posted July 16 11 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: There are many whistle blowers. Soon as they blow the whistle, you all call them crazy. I think I know the answer, but I’m gonna ask the question anyway, who are these ‘many’ whistleblowers? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted July 16 Author #9 Share Posted July 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, iAlrakis said: he made some interesting vids in the past but he seems to have lost the plot. Going for clickbait, and hence money. His output does seem to have changed and is now more focused on UFO's and aliens. But I think he tries to be even handed. If I have a problem with what he discusses here its some of the technical stuff about producing hi-res data by using multiple analysis results, of the same data set, sent out to SETI home screensaver users. He also said that the location of the star was being withheld ? yet the research screenshots he used is for Proxima Centauri, which is close. I assume the location information that can be seen is deliberately left in for the more observant. 😉 Edited July 16 by L.A.T.1961 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 17 #10 Share Posted July 17 (edited) SETI's hstory of crowdsourced distributed computing mKes this seem implausible Edited July 17 by Golden Duck 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted July 17 #11 Share Posted July 17 6 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: I believe it would be nearly impossible to cover up long term, I am certain that whistleblowers would come out of the woodwork. JIMHO Like they are now? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted July 17 #12 Share Posted July 17 4 hours ago, Grey Area said: I think I know the answer, but I’m gonna ask the question anyway, who are these ‘many’ whistleblowers? Where have you been? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted July 17 #13 Share Posted July 17 Just watched the videos, to summarise all three, because it’s amazing how so much talking can occur without getting to the point: SETI has found a candidate techno signal, they have focused on the location and are currently working on verification and analysis, at the request of NASA SETI. This is exciting for sure, but as far as I see no cover ups occurring, just the scientific community being thorough and responsible with the data they have. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted July 17 #14 Share Posted July 17 4 hours ago, Hankenhunter said: Where have you been? Under a rock on LV426, who are the ‘many’ whistle blowers? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 17 #15 Share Posted July 17 13 hours ago, Grey Area said: I think I know the answer, but I’m gonna ask the question anyway, who are these ‘many’ whistleblowers? All the people who work for the military who have claimed to see UFO’s. The ones who have their character assassinated the moment they do. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 17 #16 Share Posted July 17 You thinking that’s funny GD is hilarious. Go ahead and name a single whistleblower who you don’t believe is either crazy or a liar. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 17 #17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: All the people who work for the military who have claimed to see UFO’s. The ones who have their character assassinated the moment they do. Well, sticking your neck out claiming that alien spacecraft is here on Earth with no corroborating scientific proof... What the hell did they expect??? Edited July 17 by Hazzard 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 17 #18 Share Posted July 17 41 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Well, sticking your neck out claiming that alien spacecraft is here on Earth with no corroborating scientific proof... What the hell did they expect??? Corroborating evidence exists for some sightings. Evidence of the existence of the objects I mean. We don't know their origin and manufacturers on the other hand. It doesn't mean they are alien but some of these objects could be of alien origin. Like I said in other threads, if we had proof we wouldn't be having these conversations here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted July 17 #19 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, preacherman76 said: All the people who work for the military who have claimed to see UFO’s. The ones who have their character assassinated the moment they do. No we are talking whistle blowers, not witnesses who get called out. So Who? I’ll start you off…. Jesus H Grusch, who else? Greer 🤣? Anyone else? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 17 #20 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, MrAnderson said: Corroborating evidence exists for some sightings. Evidence of the existence of the objects I mean. We don't know their origin and manufacturers on the other hand. It doesn't mean they are alien but some of these objects could be of alien origin. Like I said in other threads, if we had proof we wouldn't be having these conversations here. Im not talking about evidence for UFOs (thats silly AF) and I dont understand why you keep saying that?? Im talking about the clowns that are claiming that alien spacecraft is here on Earth - with no corroborating scientific proof. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 17 #21 Share Posted July 17 3 hours ago, Hazzard said: Im not talking about evidence for UFOs (thats silly AF) and I dont understand why you keep saying that?? Im talking about the clowns that are claiming that alien spacecraft is here on Earth - with no corroborating scientific proof. This is an opinion they have. You should be able to recognise it. It's a possibility and they go along with it. And they are not clowns because they entertain this possibility. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 17 #22 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrAnderson said: And they are not clowns because they entertain this possibility. You seem to have a real problem reading and understanding? Here, lets try it again... Im talking about the clowns that are CLAIMING that alien spacecraft is here on Earth - with no corroborating scientific proof. Edited July 17 by Hazzard 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 17 #23 Share Posted July 17 21 hours ago, preacherman76 said: There are many whistle blowers. Soon as they blow the whistle, you all call them crazy. I don't . I just ask very specific questions that many "whistleblowers" and their defenders can't answer. I don't call them names. I just disregard their unfounded statements. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 17 #24 Share Posted July 17 8 hours ago, preacherman76 said: You thinking that’s funny GD is hilarious. Go ahead and name a single whistleblower who you don’t believe is either crazy or a liar. Well you dodged Grey's question, and shift the burden on to me. No matter. I have shoulders. I don't believe David McBride is crazy or a liar. Now can you answer Grey's question to the same level of detail? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 17 #25 Share Posted July 17 22 hours ago, preacherman76 said: There are many whistle blowers. Soon as they blow the whistle, you all call them crazy. Yeah society is geared towards scepticism when it comes to UFO’s which makes it intimidating for anyone to come forward or to show an interest in studying the phenomenon. As an example, look at the threads on this board and the constant tension between those that view UFO’s differently. Now multiply that in a social or academic setting and the result speaks for themselves 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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