Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 17 #1 Share Posted July 17 Amid swirling questions over how the Secret Service allowed a gunman with an AR-style rifle to get close enough to shoot and injure former President Trump at a Saturday rally, some answers are starting to emerge. The security gap appears to stem from how and what the agency communicated with local law enforcement before and during the event, and the apparent decision not to place security personnel on the building the gunman climbed up before shooting.. https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/4776664-secret-service-security-gap-trump-shooting/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&_gsa=1#webview=1&cap=swipe 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaro Posted July 17 #2 Share Posted July 17 That article explains everything you need to know in one sentence: Once shots began to be fired, Secret Service members rushed the stage to shield Trump but were heard on the microphone asking each other, “What are we doing!?” “Where are we going from here?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted July 17 #3 Share Posted July 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted July 17 #4 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 35 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: She's going to regret that statement. That roof isn't even a 4/12 pitch more like a 3/12. Small children wouldn't even have a problem running around on it. Roof pitch: Edited July 17 by Buzz_Light_Year 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted July 17 #5 Share Posted July 17 14 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: She's going to regret that statement. I wonder how she is going to justify this The roof that the secret service sniper team was on seems to have a steeper slope then the roof the shooter was on. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted July 17 #6 Share Posted July 17 10 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: The roof that the secret service sniper team was on seems to have a steeper slope then the roof the shooter was on. It does and that is why I said she would regret her statement. She was just trying to cover her **** and it's not going to age well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted July 17 #7 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: It does and that is why I said she would regret her statement. She was just trying to cover her **** and it's not going to age well. It was just such a bad and lazy attempt to cover herself though, the pictures of the secret service sniper team on a slanted roof with a steeper slope were out almost immediately following the assassination attempt along with pictures of multiple people standing on the same roof as the shooter. Out of all the excuses she could of went with she picked one that was obviously not true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaro Posted July 17 #8 Share Posted July 17 Director Cheatle, which was the greater safety concern last Saturday: Positioning an agent on a building with a sloped roof OR Attending a political rally with your agency running security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Horta Posted July 18 #9 Share Posted July 18 15 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Amid swirling questions over how the Secret Service allowed a gunman with an AR-style rifle to get close enough to shoot and injure former President Trump at a Saturday rally, some answers are starting to emerge. The security gap appears to stem from how and what the agency communicated with local law enforcement before and during the event, and the apparent decision not to place security personnel on the building the gunman climbed up before shooting.. https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/4776664-secret-service-security-gap-trump-shooting/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&_gsa=1#webview=1&cap=swipe Worth being sceptical of the official "incompetence" narrative on this one. It doesn't really seem possible (in any meaningful way) that simple incompetence accounts for it. That's so unlikely it would have to be considered "miraculous". So, it depends if you believe in miracles. The obvious visible presence (snipers, close detail, obvious security etc) that people are aware of is not the real deterrent for this type of thing, in these events. The pre planning and placement of people and operational procedure the public would often be entirely unaware of is the deterrent, so that no one is able to get into a position where these more obvious people are needed. Any layman would have been able to look at that site and realise..."first, those elevated rooftop positions need to be secured, don't want anyone up there...especially that rooftop"..... The narrative that a 20yr old misfit left his mum's basement because he was bullied at school, and then outwitted the entire security planning and detail for this rally, unaided, has nothing going for it. Especially being able to take a rifle in broad daylight up to the most obvious elevated position 130m from the podium, on top of a "secure" building that the security team themselves were using (according to the head of the SS), and then getting shots off. This is incredibly unlikely to be be a bug, as much as a feature of the planning. There are reports he was noticed 35 minutes or so before the shooting by members of security acting suspiciously with a "range finder" (wonder why you would need one of those at a political rally?), which was passed up the chain. Yet was never tailed after this nor was he ever challenged. It would be interesting to know who his acquaintances were in the last year or so, or if he made any new or unusual "friends". Ones that might have referred to him as Patsy McPatsy among themselves. Also got to wonder why there was no order to rush Trump off stage the moment they became aware that someone was where they were not supposed to be. Random bystanders were alerting security to this for at least 3-4 minutes before the shots. Yet the security themselves missed it because they were only instructed to secure the inside of the building (again according to the head of the SS), not the outside of it. Wonder why? High probability that someone higher up from the swamp doesn't want Trump to make it to the election and that someone in this security was compromised. No doubt his team will now be aware of this. Trump was warned from the swamp that a certain community has "6 ways from Sunday" to get at a president they don't like. They must be close to no.6 by now. Trump is also seen as soft on Russia (if not an agent lol) and possibly a real problem regarding NATO and the proxy war in the Ukraine. Who was the last president that fell foul of a certain agency, was seen as soft on the Soviets (to the point of being a traitor) and as we now know, was considered an obstacle to the war in Vietnam? How did he get on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Shooter McGavin Posted July 18 #10 Share Posted July 18 She needs to resign. If this happened to Trump, it could happen to Biden. She's not fit to be in the position she's in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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