Trump floats outrageous claim that Black Americans are ‘going to die’ because of immigration

[Opus Magnus]

9 minutes ago, Razman said:

What are you meaning? Not sure i understand what you are saying there.

In response to the Snopes article.

[+Razman]

11 minutes ago, Opus Magnus said:

In response to the Snopes article.

Right , i figured that , i just didn't quite get what it means , like this part . " In a democracy it would make sense that minorities would lose because they have less votes.  It would make more sense to succeed in a liberal republic."

[Opus Magnus]

42 minutes ago, Razman said:

Right , i figured that , i just didn't quite get what it means , like this part . " In a democracy it would make sense that minorities would lose because they have less votes.  It would make more sense to succeed in a liberal republic."

I'm not sure what is misunderstood.  A democracy is ruled by the majority of votes, and a minority would have significantly less power in it.  The Republic is what freed the blacks from slavery, so it has more power with the Republican Party in charge if it has anybody on their side.  Sometime in the recent past these meanings seem to have been reversed or confused though.

[+Razman]

15 minutes ago, Opus Magnus said:

I'm not sure what is misunderstood.  A democracy is ruled by the majority of votes, and a minority would have significantly less power in it.  The Republic is what freed the blacks from slavery, so it has more power with the Republican Party in charge if it has anybody on their side.  Sometime in the recent past these meanings seem to have been reversed or confused though.

Yes , thanks that helped.

[+Link of Hyrule]

2 hours ago, Razman said:

But , but , this is all just a figure of speech , he doesn't mean it literally . Looking at the article , it looks like he says the banking and finance sectors would put them in chains. Trump does the same type of ****. IMO Trump's black folks comment is another part of the pony show to try and get black voters.

In general, I agree with your assessment. He was definitely being hyperbolic. Though you cannot deny he explicitly took slavery imagery and attempted to apply it to Republicans and generate a negative impression among the black voting population, I am comfortable putting this one down to hyperbole. 

Though when I say this about Trump I get called "the Trump Whisperer". So keep in mind that just because the context is clearly indicated within the text that means nothing if you're the Biden Whisperer. 

[+Razman]

17 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

In general, I agree with your assessment. He was definitely being hyperbolic. Though you cannot deny he explicitly took slavery imagery and attempted to apply it to Republicans and generate a negative impression among the black voting population, I am comfortable putting this one down to hyperbole. 

Though when I say this about Trump I get called "the Trump Whisperer". So keep in mind that just because the context is clearly indicated within the text that means nothing if you're the Biden Whisperer. 

Yea , i was just sayin Trump does the same type of stuff.

[Opus Magnus]

23 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

In general, I agree with your assessment. He was definitely being hyperbolic. Though you cannot deny he explicitly took slavery imagery and attempted to apply it to Republicans and generate a negative impression among the black voting population, I am comfortable putting this one down to hyperbole. 

Though when I say this about Trump I get called "the Trump Whisperer". So keep in mind that just because the context is clearly indicated within the text that means nothing if you're the Biden Whisperer. 

I think it is a literal accusation.  It doesn't make sense historically however because it was the Conservative Democrats who were slave owners in the South, and the Liberal Republicans of the North who freed the slaves.  The only part that would be putting minorities in chains is the conservative part, because of higher taxes and less initiatives to help minorities and the poor.  Trump is very liberal though, and Biden is very conservative.

[+Link of Hyrule]

13 minutes ago, Razman said:

Yea , i was just sayin Trump does the same type of stuff.

I guess I was just trying to say that when I say the same thing you did, I get called "Trump Whisperer".

[+and-then]

On 7/17/2024 at 6:14 PM, lightly said:

Hm,  that agent behind trump  ^  is the same one that started the fist pumping “four more years!” chant on stage with him the next day.    

Government employees are citizens as well.  They have a right to support whichever candidate they like.  They cannot use government property and money to CAMPAIGN for any candidate though.  Well over 95% of all DC residents vote Democrat.  

[Agent0range]

On 7/17/2024 at 1:12 PM, and-then said:

I've seen several protests by that community in NYC and Chicago who are saying basically the same thing.  They're furious about the wave of so-called migrants moving in and receiving benefits that were once available to the black community. ...

Can you post a source showing that the benefits are no longer available due to migrants?  Not just benefits available to the "black community" but that migrants are removing benefits from ANYONE.  I'm actually throwing you a bone here.  Show me something where migrants are taking benefits from anyone.

[Agent0range]

45 minutes ago, and-then said:

Government employees are citizens as well.  They have a right to support whichever candidate they like.  They cannot use government property and money to CAMPAIGN for any candidate though.  Well over 95% of all DC residents vote Democrat.  

That's false.  As government employees we fall under the Hatch Act.  If he is on duty, he is not allowed to support a candidate.  I can not go to a political event wearing something that shows what agency I work for.

[lightly]

lightly said: Hm,  that agent behind trump  ^  is the same one that started the fist pumping “four more years!” chant on stage with him the next day.    

14 hours ago, and-then said:

Government employees are citizens as well.  They have a right to support whichever candidate they like.  They cannot use government property and money to CAMPAIGN for any candidate though.  Well over 95% of all DC residents vote Democrat.  

        It was not only odd..but completely irresponsible of him.  He was on a serious detail, he was on duty!  . . tasked with protecting the president…not cheerleading!  thereby completely distracting himself ,and others ,by showboating. !     He can support whichever candidate he likes…on his own time. ?

[lightly]

   I think only a U.S. citizen should receive benefits specifically established for, and paid for by, U.S. citizens.    ..things like long term health care and housing etc.   .. roll up the red carpet..and they will not come in such numbers.   ???     too mean?

[Michelle]

13 hours ago, Agent0range said:

Can you post a source showing that the benefits are no longer available due to migrants?  Not just benefits available to the "black community" but that migrants are removing benefits from ANYONE.  I'm actually throwing you a bone here.  Show me something where migrants are taking benefits from anyone.

Why Are We Spending Millions Housing Illegal Migrants While Americans Go Homeless? | Opinion - Newsweek

Exclusive | Parents outraged as 6 more NYC schools to house migrants in gyms (nypost.com)

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Seven School Gyms Will House Migrants Parents and Pols Are Pushing Back | THE CITY - NYC News

Immigrants without legal status get public health insurance in more states : Shots - Health News : NPR

[lightly]

  … I think though, that many non citizens do pay income tax???   
(((Google)))  Yup, all applicable taxes.  https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/do-immigrants-pay-taxes#:~:text=Yes – immigrants of all legal,other taxes throughout the US.

Edited July 19 by lightly

[Michelle]

14 minutes ago, lightly said:

  … I think though, that many non citizens do pay income tax???   
(((Google)))  Yup, all applicable taxes.  https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/do-immigrants-pay-taxes#:~:text=Yes – immigrants of all legal,other taxes throughout the US.

Unless they are working under the table which is quite common.