Secret Service spotted Trump rally shooter on roof 20 minutes before gunfire erupted

[Grim Reaper 6]

In the days since the shooting, the Secret Service has come under scrutiny for its response to the assassination attempt and the agency's director, Kimberly Cheatle, has been subpoenaed to testify before Congress. A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said she "welcomes the opportunity to testify."

The revelation of the timeline came as sources told ABC News that Crooks searched on his phone for images of President Joe Biden and former President Trump and searched for the dates of Trump’s rally in Butler and for dates of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

The phone search history revealed no indication of Crooks’ political views and investigators were trying to determine his motive..

https://abcnews-go-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/trump-assassination-attempt-investigation-continues-new-details/story?id=112020474&amp_js_v=0.1&amp_gsa=1#webview=1&cap=swipe

 

[+and-then]

2 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

The revelation of the timeline came as sources told ABC News that Crooks searched on his phone for images of President Joe Biden and former President Trump and searched for the dates of Trump’s rally in Butler and for dates of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

This^ would tend to make me think he didn't particularly care which famous person he killed.  He just knew it would be far easier to strike at an outdoor event.  If it is verified that SS were made aware of his presence that far ahead of time, some damned body should be held accountable and there should be a totally transparent explanation of the facts.  If SS tries the same old "ongoing investigation" dodge, all hell should be directed at DC.  The people need to get loud to their representatives and demand some answers.

Meanwhile, if the director continues to refuse accountability, Trump's campaign should hire private security and make it clear they no longer trust SS leadership to protect him.  Humiliation might accomplish what demands cannot.

[Grim Reaper 6]

51 minutes ago, and-then said:

This^ would tend to make me think he didn't particularly care which famous person he killed.  He just knew it would be far easier to strike at an outdoor event.  If it is verified that SS were made aware of his presence that far ahead of time, some damned body should be held accountable and there should be a totally transparent explanation of the facts.  If SS tries the same old "ongoing investigation" dodge, all hell should be directed at DC.  The people need to get loud to their representatives and demand some answers..

The problem that occurred was the security perimeter was not pushed out far enough, and according to SS protocol all buildings with line of sight of the podium must have law enforcement on the roof. For some reason that didn’t occur and in addition to that they apparently they watched him climbing around on the building he shoot from and they didn’t report it or respond to the threat. This is the entire problem in a nut shell and that is also the questions they need to answer.

51 minutes ago, and-then said:

Meanwhile, if the director continues to refuse accountability, Trump's campaign should hire private security and make it clear they no longer trust SS leadership to protect him.  Humiliation might accomplish what demands cannot.

I don’t believe the full story will ever be released to the American public, and I also doubt we will ever know what his motivation was caused by. I thought his phone may be helpful but according to the powers that be the phone was useless as far as information is concerned.

[+DieChecker]

I too believe there was a very unacceptable level of incompetence by the SS, and law enforcement, at the event.

Someone's going to have to answer for Don getting winged.

Theres video online of Crooks climbing up the back wall. 

I believe people trusted the security so much they let it happen. 

[Alchopwn]

The fix was in.

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, DieChecker said:

I too believe there was a very unacceptable level of incompetence by the SS, and law enforcement, at the event.

Someone's going to have to answer for Don getting winged.

Theres video online of Crooks climbing up the back wall. 

I believe people trusted the security so much they let it happen. 

He didn’t get winged, he got eared.

[itsnotoutthere]

 

[Unusual Tournament]

3 hours ago, DieChecker said:

I too believe there was a very unacceptable level of incompetence by the SS, and law enforcement, at the event.

Someone's going to have to answer for Don getting winged.

Theres video online of Crooks climbing up the back wall. 

I believe people trusted the security so much they let it happen. 

I believe the shooting was allowed to happen. 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

I'm going to go with a breakdown in communication on the SS and local police part. Local police occupied the building that the shooter was on. The SS probably didn't know if the person on the roof was a police asset or something else. The comms were not on the same channels and if they had to communicate with one another each had to call their respective comm center and have the message relayed. Now 20 minutes is still a long to time to get confirmation whether the person on the roof was a police asset or not. 

The bolded part is from another forum where a LEO pulled rally duty with the SS and he said that was the way it was done when he participated in security for a rally. This reduces the amount of chatter on the comm channels.

[Raptor Witness]

5 hours ago, and-then said:

This^ would tend to make me think he didn't particularly care which famous person he killed.  He just knew it would be far easier to strike at an outdoor event.  If it is verified that SS were made aware of his presence that far ahead of time, some damned body should be held accountable and there should be a totally transparent explanation of the facts.  If SS tries the same old "ongoing investigation" dodge, all hell should be directed at DC.  The people need to get loud to their representatives and demand some answers.

Meanwhile, if the director continues to refuse accountability, Trump's campaign should hire private security and make it clear they no longer trust SS leadership to protect him.  Humiliation might accomplish what demands cannot.

I can’t believe I’m forced to agree with almost everything you’ve said in this post.

Rather than this being some sort of conspiracy, it does seem to be more about gross negligence on several fronts.

I can’t remember feeling sorry for Donald Trump, about anything, before; but watching him walk into that convention, for the first time, this week, touched my heart. Say, whatever you want about the man, he didn’t deserve to be shot.