Retired Army Colonel Says Aliens Are Interacting With Humans

[Piney]

19 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

He is retired now.

Even if was still active on what basis he would have been prosecuted?

Have you seen any members of the armed forces prosecuted for stating their beliefs or their sightings? If that was the case a large number of pilots who spoke out would have been prosecuted according to this logic.

Beliefs and sightings aren't knowingly making false statements. 

[Trelane]

12 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

He is retired now.

Even if was still active on what basis he would have been prosecuted?

Have you seen any members of the armed forces prosecuted for stating their beliefs or their sightings? If that was the case a large number of pilots who spoke out would have been prosecuted according to this logic.

Irrelevant as he is a commissioned officer still receiving retirement pay.

Contrary to popular belief a DD214 for retirement doesn't grant anyone a license to start spouting off items they may have had access to or been briefed on. There are security debriefs that many folks go through during the retirement process. Even some have to sign or renew NDAs on a case by case basis.

I have seen uniformed members of the armed forces get prosecuted for making false official statements, yes. About aliens and such? No, because those items when investigated are determined as 'unfounded' or 'inconclusive' due to a lack of sufficient and /or corroborating evidence. 

The military justice system isn't wasting it's time with Capt. John or Private Joe making a false statement about aliens and UFOs. The investigative and prosecting bodies in the military are focused on real world crimes and lies. Not sensationalized stories that have no basis in reality. At most those who make unsubstituted claims would receive letters of reprimand or face NJP in lieu of formal proceedings.

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 hours ago, Piney said:

He has too many varied MOS's too. I can see if they were connected, but some aren't. 

Geezus my stepfather was MACV-SOG and didn't have all the **** going on.

The biggest thing I could see by watching the video is the fact that he doesn't bring anything new to the table. He talked around the entire issue, so in my opinion he is a BS artist. So, you stepfather was a member of Military Assistance Command Special Operations Group, those guys were bad ass!!!!

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, MrAnderson said:

It's a personal opinion based on whatever evidence and information he has. Do you think he is an attention seeker? It has been mentioned above but I doubt it a lot.

Let me ask you question and please answer it.

I watched the video, what new information did he add??

[Piney]

6 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

The biggest thing I could see by watching the video is the fact that he doesn't bring anything new to the table. He talked around the entire issue, so in my opinion he is a BS artist. So, you stepfather was a member of Military Assistance Command Special Operations Group, those guys were bad ass!!!!

He was a UH-1 pilot for the Puzzle Palace and loach scout sometimes. But yeah, all jungle fighters are badasses. Even the old WW2 ones. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

Just now, Piney said:

He was a UH-1 pilot for the Puzzle Palace and loach scout sometimes. But yeah, all jungle fighters are badasses. Even the old WW2 ones. 

I certainly agree they are Bad Asses!!!

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Trelane said:

Irrelevant as he is a commissioned officer still receiving retirement pay.

Contrary to popular belief a DD214 for retirement doesn't grant anyone a license to start spouting off items they may have had access to or been briefed on. There are security debriefs that many folks go through during the retirement process. Even some have to sign or renew NDAs on a case by case basis.

I have seen uniformed members of the armed forces get prosecuted for making false official statements, yes. About aliens and such? No, because those items when investigated are determined as 'unfounded' or 'inconclusive' due to a lack of sufficient and /or corroborating evidence. 

The military justice system isn't wasting it's time with Capt. John or Private Joe making a false statement about aliens and UFOs. The investigative and prosecting bodies in the military are focused on real world crimes and lies. Not sensationalized stories that have no basis in reality. At most those who make unsubstituted claims would receive letters of reprimand or face NJP in lieu of formal proceedings.

How is this an official statement? And I have seen members of the armed forces saying all sort of things but with no legal consequences.

Can you tell me one person who has been prosecuted after retiring or when they were active because they said something about UFOs and alien visitors.

Just to clarify here, reporting UFOs or talk about aliens is associated with stigma and army personnel (police officers too) often risk their reputations and careers. But prosecuting someone for something like this seems almost impossible to me.

Edited July 19 by MrAnderson

[MrAnderson]

12 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Let me ask you question and please answer it.

I watched the video, what new information did he add??

He added his personal opinion. You may say it's only a personal opinion but that was all. Even if he knows more than he admits he can still cover it as personal opinion. He doesn't have proof (that's clear).

[Trelane]

12 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

How is this an official statement? And I have seen members of the armed forces saying all sort of things but with no legal consequences.

Can you tell me one person who has been prosecuted after retiring or when they were active because they said something about UFOs and alien visitors.

Just to clarify here, reporting UFOs or talk about aliens is associated with stigma and army personnel (police officers too) often risk their reputations and careers. But prosecuting someone for something like this seems almost impossible to me.

I'm not making an official statement. I simply answered your question (why I bothered i have no idea).😑

Please re-read my earlier post. You'll see where I already answered this.👍

Just to clarify, no it really isn't not anymore and certainly not over the last 20-25 years it isn't. That's an old and very tired excuse some use to excuse the staggeringly lack of specifics and details alleged "whistleblowers" provide in their statements.🧐

[Grim Reaper 6]

14 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

He added his personal opinion. You may say it's only a personal opinion but that was all. Even if he knows more than he admits he can still cover it as personal opinion. He doesn't have proof (that's clear).

Opinions are just like *******s everyone has one, and he certainly doesn't have any proof so what good does he serve!!!!

[MrAnderson]

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Opinions are just like *******s everyone has one, and he certainly doesn't have any proof so what good does he serve!!!!

If he has some evidence we don't have his opinion and statement is to 'enlight the masses'

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 minute ago, MrAnderson said:

If he has some evidence we don't have his opinion and statement is to 'enlight the masses'

How can he enlighten the masses, he didn't present anything, all he said was I believe there are extraterrestrials among us. How does that enlighten anyone, I am a Buddhist, and it certainly did not enlighten me, my friend!!!!

[Piney]

25 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

If he has some evidence we don't have his opinion and statement is to 'enlight the masses'

By talking in circles? 

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

How can he enlighten the masses, he didn't present anything, all he said was I believe there are extraterrestrials among us. How does that enlighten anyone, I am a Buddhist, and it certainly did not enlighten me, my friend!!!!

Knowledge of alien visitation (hypothetically speaking) from his perspective and position in the army (while has was an officer) doesn't imply he has physical evidence to present. I had a sighting as you know back in 2011 and I can't prove it. Does it mean the sighting never occured? No, it means I can't prove it. It's different though when an Army Colonel speaks out.

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Piney said:

By talking in circles? 

Using his position he could be quite convincing (assuming he is saying the truth). Still he doesn't have the evidence but presenting physical evidence is probably not possible.

[Grim Reaper 6]

15 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Knowledge of alien visitation (hypothetically speaking) from his perspective and position in the army (while has was an officer) doesn't imply he has physical evidence to present. I had a sighting as you know back in 2011 and I can't prove it. Does it mean the sighting never occured? No, it means I can't prove it. It's different though when an Army Colonel speaks out.

No, it is not different at all Army Colonels are a dime a dozen my friend I joined the Army in 1978 and retired in 2003 and I have worked with many of them. I believe you saw something and that you're not certain what it was, but he did not say he saw anything, he just talked around the subject. At the Pentagon Colonels are coffee boys for the General Staff, so the fact that he was a Colonel has no bearing on the subject at all.

JIMHO

[Piney]

17 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Using his position he could be quite convincing (assuming he is saying the truth). Still he doesn't have the evidence but presenting physical evidence is probably not possible.

Yeah, that's like me going to a landowner and saying "this guy told a friend of mine who told me there's a possibility of this endangered organism/ mineral deposit is on your property".

Your a scientist allright.. 

[Piney]

11 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

No, it is not different at all Army Colonels are a dime a dozen my friend I joined the Army in 1978 and retired in 2003 and I have worked with many of them. I believe you saw something and that you're not certain what it was, but he did not say he saw anything, he just talked around the subject. At the Pentagon Colonels are coffee boys for the General Staff, so the fact that he was a Colonel has no bearing on the subject at all.

JIMHO

Lame attempt at a argument from authority. 

In Academia it's part of credential bullying and not acceptable.

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, Piney said:

Lame attempt at a argument from authority. 

In Academia it's part of credential bullying and not acceptable.

No, it is not acceptable, but I just overlook it because I like Mr. Anderson and I believe that he is smart enough to come around and see the error of his ways!!

[Dejarma]

yet another one jumping on the band wagon ...if in the right position; 'some' will do anything for money.

the problem with humans is these 'some' ruin it for everyone else in life in general IMO

[Piney]

12 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

No, it is not acceptable, but I just overlook it because I like Mr. Anderson and I believe that he is smart enough to come around and see the error of his ways!!

I did. I don't now because he runs up skyeagle's butt. 

[+joc]

39 minutes ago, Piney said:

I did. I don't now because he runs up skyeagle's butt. 

He IS skyeagle...

...oh wait, I just offered an opinion and I don't have any evidence of that...

just wondering...where is skyeagle...hmmmm...

[Piney]

1 minute ago, joc said:

He IS skyeagle...

...oh wait, I just offered an opinion and I don't have any evidence of that...

just wondering...where is skyeagle...hmmmm...

No, he's not. Different writing and posting styles. 

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

No, it is not different at all Army Colonels are a dime a dozen my friend I joined the Army in 1978 and retired in 2003 and I have worked with many of them. I believe you saw something and that you're not certain what it was, but he did not say he saw anything, he just talked around the subject. At the Pentagon Colonels are coffee boys for the General Staff, so the fact that he was a Colonel has no bearing on the subject at all.

JIMHO

In my case I saw something and I am very certain of what it was (shape, length, colour, speed). I don't know if this guy has access to information and I can't tell you what he knows and what he doesn't. He expressed a personal opinion and I don't think he did it for attention.

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Piney said:

Lame attempt at a argument from authority. 

In Academia it's part of credential bullying and not acceptable.

It's not an argument from authority but his personal opinion. Usually the people with ranks either in the military or the police are taken more seriously they mske these comments. It doesn't mean he has proof.