Reminder of what life was like under Donald Trump

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Yes. I'm seeing lots of words but no links to back it up. In other words, another day ending in "Y" with Trumpers making crap up.

Well, let's give them time if they can't put up, they should shut up!!!!!!!

[MrAnderson]

5 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Yes. I'm seeing lots of words but no links to back it up. In other words, another day ending in "Y" with Trumpers making crap up.

What I don't get in this unpleasant competition is the way people forget who Trump really is and whether he serves or will be serving the interests of ordinary Americans. Is there anyone naive out there who believes this guy was sent by God to serve them or that he will make America great again. It's like a bad surreal movie that will be re-played for another 4 years. I am not saying vote for the democrats, just don't vote for either of them.

Edited July 20 by MrAnderson

[simplybill]

1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said:

and even suggested that injecting disinfectant could help cure the virus. 

Trump was having a discussion with William Bryan, the undersecretary for Science and Technology at the Department of Homeland Security, to get a better understanding of what had just been presented to him.

Several fact-checking websites addressed this soon after the media and Joe Biden misrepresented Trump’s words.

“Trump did not specifically recommend ingesting disinfectants, but he did express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a coronavirus infection inside the body, such as the lungs. We rate Biden’s claim Mostly False.”

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/11/joe-biden/no-trump-didnt-tell-americans-infected-coronavirus/

[Ell]

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Obesity, Race/Ethnicity, and COVID-19

More than 900,000 adult COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in the United States between the beginning of the pandemic and November 18, 2020. Models estimate that 271,800 (30.2%) of these hospitalizations were attributed to obesity.

 

Edited July 20 by Ell

[Unusual Tournament]

47 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

I remember Trump standing next to Fauci making claims and politics at the same time. People seem to forget easily who Trump was and who Trump still is.

Exactly! There was Trump, couldn’t find his ass with both his hands to save his life, giving medical advice to America, while Dr Fauci looks on. Fauci deserves credit for not strangling Trump. 

Edited July 20 by Unusual Tournament

[Hawken]

4 hours ago, Edumakated said:

I seem to recall Democrats calling him a xenophobe for trying to restrict travel....

Yep, Trump had the southern border secure and restricted travel from China and Europe. And yet they blame him for all the covid deaths.

But when Biden stepped into office, he opened the border during covid.

[Unusual Tournament]

29 minutes ago, simplybill said:

Trump was having a discussion with William Bryan, the undersecretary for Science and Technology at the Department of Homeland Security, to get a better understanding of what had just been presented to him.

Several fact-checking websites addressed this soon after the media and Joe Biden misrepresented Trump’s words.

“Trump did not specifically recommend ingesting disinfectants, but he did express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a coronavirus infection inside the body, such as the lungs. We rate Biden’s claim Mostly False.”

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/11/joe-biden/no-trump-didnt-tell-americans-infected-coronavirus/

I rate Trump's logic as retarded

[Hawken]

38 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Yes. I'm seeing lots of words but no links to back it up. In other words, another day ending in "Y" with Trumpers making crap up.

But you'll only accept links that fit your narratives and from leftwing sources...Right?

[+Link of Hyrule]

6 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I rate Trump's logic as retarded

Is that the best comeback you have when factchecks prove the media lied to you? 

[Unusual Tournament]

4 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

Is that the best comeback you have when factchecks prove the media lied to you? 

It’s not about having the best comeback, Trump is just in no position to give medical advice to the American public that contradicts with Dr Fauci. What fact check?

Edited July 20 by Unusual Tournament

[+Link of Hyrule]

Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

It’s not about having the best comeback, Trump is just in no position to give medical advice to the American public that contradicts with Dr Fauci 

The claim was that he told people to inject bleach (or drink bleach as this particular claim is, the overall point is the same - Trump never explicitly recommended anyone to ingest, either by mouth or through syringe, any bleach product). The fact check declared the claim to be "mostly false".

[Unusual Tournament]

1 minute ago, Link of Hyrule said:

The claim was that he told people to inject bleach (or drink bleach as this particular claim is, the overall point is the same - Trump never explicitly recommended anyone to ingest, either by mouth or through syringe, any bleach product). The fact check declared the claim to be "mostly false".

The infected Covid areas were in the lungs and organs. How else would you disinfect the infected areas?

[Ell]

One cannot expect medical advice from DJT. He does not have that kind of expertise and so instead has to rely on alleged 'experts' - who if sociopaths or their minions can tell him all kinds of credible lies.

[Edumakated]

3 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Happy to see where you got that information 

This is where it all started...

Then Joe...

You guys have the memory of a gnat.  

[Unusual Tournament]

4 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

This is where it all started...

Then Joe...

You guys have the memory of a gnat.  

Your first video is unavailable in my country.

The second video has Biden saying he would take a vaccine developed under Trump and mandate it for everyone to use if he becomes president because it’s made by experts.

BUT what he won’t do is listen to Trump dispense medical advice because Trump talks to lots of idiots and has a lot of hair brain ideas.

under the circumstances, I cannot find fault with Biden according to your link

[+Link of Hyrule]

16 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

The infected Covid areas were in the lungs and organs. How else would you disinfect the infected areas?

Not relevant to the question of whether Trump instructed people to ingest/inject bleach. 

[+and-then]

5 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

HI And Then

Covid deaths in Biden's term had more to do with individuals not living according to mandates and putting themselves and others in jeapordy. Not sure how that translates into it was Biden's fault. 

I didn't say they were.  That was my point.  It's a novel virus that burned its way through a susceptible population.  That wasn't Trump's fault either but the Left wants to hang it around his neck so, turnabout is fair play, yes?

[Unusual Tournament]

4 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

Not relevant to the question of whether Trump instructed people to ingest/inject bleach. 

I disagree. It’s a logical progression

👍

[Unusual Tournament]

3 minutes ago, and-then said:

I didn't say they were.  That was my point.  It's a novel virus that burned its way through a susceptible population.  That wasn't Trump's fault either but the Left wants to hang it around his neck so, turnabout is fair play, yes?

Biden handled the virus better. 

[Edumakated]

11 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Your first video is unavailable in my country.

The second video has Biden saying he would take a vaccine developed under Trump and mandate it for everyone to use if he becomes president because it’s made by experts.

BUT what he won’t do is listen to Trump dispense medical advice because Trump talks to lots of idiots and has a lot of hair brain ideas.

under the circumstances, I cannot find fault with Biden according to your link

You can try to spin it.  The first video was Kamala Harris in debate with Mike Pence saying she wouldn't take a vaccine created under Trump.  Biden is basically saying the same thing.   Biden then held a press conference criticizing Trump rushing to get a vaccine released.  Then remember, the vaccine came out basically right after the election (purposely held so Trump wouldn't get credit) and then all of a sudden, Biden wanted to mandate taking it.

 

[Hankenhunter]

1 hour ago, MrAnderson said:

What I don't get in this unpleasant competition is the way people forget who Trump really is and whether he serves or will be serving the interests of ordinary Americans. Is there anyone naive out there who believes this guy was sent by God to serve them or that he will make America great again. It's like a bad surreal movie that will be re-played for another 4 years. I am not saying vote for the democrats, just don't vote for either of them.

Fear, and or greed. Trump plays off both.

[+and-then]

8 hours ago, Hawken said:

Life under Trump while in office I remember $2 gas, $1 eggs and a growing retirement. He went to North Korea and shook hands with Kim Jong

and eased tensions and made peace deals in the middle east. Not to mention made the US energy independent. Did the MSM report that?

No, still Orange Man Bad. 

Absolutely true and even though things have so far been quieter than I expected, I still think they're going to raise all manner of hell if they can't keep him from being elected again.  After everything they've done over nearly 8 years, there is no way they'll just suddenly say "oh well, I guess he won".  Well, if you can call a failed assassination attempt "quiet" I guess.  I honestly thought they'd be doing a summer of St. Floyd di Fentanyl redux by now but maybe they thought that would reflect on the current regime too much. 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 minute ago, Edumakated said:

You can try to spin it.  The first video was Kamala Harris in debate with Mike Pence saying she wouldn't take a vaccine created under Trump.  Biden is basically saying the same thing.   Biden then held a press conference criticizing Trump rushing to get a vaccine released.  Then remember, the vaccine came out basically right after the election (purposely held so Trump wouldn't get credit) and then all of a sudden, Biden wanted to mandate taking it.

 

I’m not spinning anything. You posted two videos and I made the effort to watch them with an open mind but didn’t draw your conclusions. If you can find another video to explain Biden criticism of Trump and vaccine releases I’m happy to review it
 

 🧐

[Hankenhunter]

29 minutes ago, Ell said:

One cannot expect medical advice from DJT. He does not have that kind of expertise and so instead has to rely on alleged 'experts' - who if sociopaths or their minions can tell him all kinds of credible lies.

A narcissistic sociopath who hired sociopaths. Color me surprised.

Edited July 20 by Hankenhunter

[+and-then]

17 hours ago, acidhead said:

@DieChecker  You are correct in your accessment of the data. 

Here's the the USA's Covid Deaths graph side by side with Canada's Covid Deaths graph. 

They are virtually identical.  (most countries around the world looked similar) 

.. USA  ---->

 

.. Canada ---->

Wow, it looks almost like a natural event occurring when a novel virus burns through an unprotected population.  These people trying to blame an individual for it as a means to justify their psycho hate agenda, is pathetic.  Damn, did I say that out loud?