Trump trying to worm his way outta debating Kamala Harris

[+Sherapy]

4 hours ago, the13bats said:

He's scared and his magaT are terrified you can tell by their posts on here confirming it.

 

27 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Sheri your right I also believe she will win a debate with Trump, IF it actually occurs Trump is trying to postpone it and change the venue!!

Well he doesn’t have the character he is a thug, a convicted criminal, a sexual predator and a bully, a misogynist which are behaviors  he has nurtured, trump is his own worst problem. 
I do not see a way around this for Trump, but this is the path he chose to walk.  Also, he was the president and he was not re elected on his own merit which is non existent and again on him.
 

Many, many voters of all parties do not condone any of the above and many do not want that type of person in power. 
 

 

Edited July 26 by Sherapy

[+Sherapy]

20 minutes ago, F3SS said:

Why do you say that? Why all of the sudden is she being revered as some formidable heavyweight opponent. She got mopped in the 2020 debates, gives terrible interviews and has been famously hidden throughout the last 4 years. She didn't climb her way into this position. She didn't earn it or win it on skill or luck. She was picked by Biden based on race and sex and being a known name at the time. Today, she didn't climb her way into the nomination. She didn't have to campaign, debate or anything. She's suddenly just it. Like magic. She's the presumptive nominee without a single vote to her name. The people never had a say. 

He'll debate her or whoever and you know it. Why after everything and everyone he's been through would he suddenly be afraid to go up against a low rate politician who's been smoked by everyone else she's faced?

Millions of people voted a Biden/Harris ticket, where have you been?
 

 

[F3SS]

19 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Millions of people voted a Biden/Harris ticket, where have you been?
 

 

Right and there's no longer a Biden Harris ticket. And now you're also stuck with her vp pick without a say.

[Grim Reaper 6]

31 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

 

Well he doesn’t have the character he is a thug, a convicted criminal, a sexual predator and a bully, a misogynist which are behaviors  he has nurtured, trump is his own worst problem.

He certainly is his own worst enemy but anyone who suffers from Malignant Narcissism is going exhibit all the problems you described.

31 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

I do not see a way around this for Trump, but this is the path he chose to walk.  Also, he was the president and he was not re elected on his own merit which is non existent and again on him.

You're certainly right again, I don't believe he has every accomplished anything based upon his own merit. Everything, has been handed to him and all the bankruptcy's he has had certainly proves it.

31 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Many, many voters of all parties do not condone any of the above and many do not want that type of person in power.

You're certainly right his reputation precedes him, and people are tired of his pathological lying. I mean how can anyone trust someone who lies directly to your face, and when caught just makes up another lie to cover his fat ass.

[Unusual Tournament]

5 hours ago, the13bats said:

He's scared and his magaT are terrified you can tell by their posts on here confirming it.

Bats, Trump’s headed for defeat and the MAGA’s can sense it and their keyboards are probably shaking as the type their MAGA bravado.

[Unusual Tournament]

2 hours ago, Sherapy said:

JD Vance is in over his head. 

Yeah I think Trump has made a tremendous mistake picking JD Vance. Vivek would have been a better choice. All I can say, Sherapy, is that thank god Trump opted for someone that is a terrible public speaker and weak on the likeable stakes 

[Gromdor]

I don't think he is particularly tying to worm his way out.  I think he is just doing his typical behaviour to undermine it's validity in case he loses.

[+Sherapy]

1 hour ago, F3SS said:

Right and there's no longer a Biden Harris ticket. And now you're also stuck with her vp pick without a say.

Biden passed the torch to her it is on her to earn the vote. For many, she is doing fabulous so far. She is tough as nails, can handle anything, not like Trump who doesn’t demonstrate resilience at all. 

For me, it is a no brainer Kamala has my vote and much to my delight on her own merit, the males in my family who are all  Republican’s  like her toughness, go figure.

Vote for who you want.  All the best to you.

 

Edited July 26 by Sherapy

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, F3SS said:

Why do you say that? Why all of the sudden is she being revered as some formidable heavyweight opponent. She got mopped in the 2020 debates, gives terrible interviews and has been famously hidden throughout the last 4 years. She didn't climb her way into this position. She didn't earn it or win it on skill or luck. She was picked by Biden based on race and sex and being a known name at the time. Today, she didn't climb her way into the nomination. She didn't have to campaign, debate or anything. She's suddenly just it. Like magic. She's the presumptive nominee without a single vote to her name. The people never had a say. 

He'll debate her or whoever and you know it. Why after everything and everyone he's been through would he suddenly be afraid to go up against a low rate politician who's been smoked by everyone else she's faced?

Well you’re right she still is a lightweight but so is Trump. Only difference is Kamala comes without any baggage. She’s a viable option for republicans that wanna vote against Trump. She’s a women and black which will sap away a majority of the women and immigrant vote. 
 

You mentioned debate. Trump will be walking on egg shells not to mention race or gender issues and JD Vance is of no help to Trump. Vance is a hopeless public speaker and boring as bat chit. Let’s see who Kamala chooses as a running mate. Maybe she might make the same mistake as Trump and choose an introvert but I doubt it 

[+Sherapy]

3 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Well you’re right she still is a lightweight but so is Trump. Only difference is Kamala comes without any baggage. She’s a viable option for republicans that wanna vote against Trump. She’s a women and black which will sap away a majority of the women and immigrant vote. 
 

You mentioned debate. Trump will be walking on egg shells not to mention race or gender issues and JD Vance is of no help to Trump. Vance is a hopeless public speaker and boring as bat chit. Let’s see who Kamala chooses as a running mate. Maybe she might make the same mistake as Trump and choose an introvert but I doubt it 

Indeed, in 4 days. Just wow! This is a becoming a movement. I have no doubt she will choose wisely on her VP. I am so grateful to Biden for stepping aside. 
 

 

[+Razman]

I noticed they are already trying to discredit Josh Shapiro.

[+Sherapy]

15 minutes ago, Razman said:

I noticed they are already trying to discredit Josh Shapiro.

Good luck with that. I hope she picks him.

[F3SS]

57 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Biden passed the torch to her

That only works if he resigns, dies or 25th ammendment. The president doesn't juat get to appoint a candidate like that and if you dems had any vision beyond what a person looks like you might have something to say about it. But you don't. All you see is a woman and that's all that matters. 

[CrimsonKing]

1 hour ago, Razman said:

I noticed they are already trying to discredit Josh Shapiro.

That would be awesome in my opinion,Dems would have to take their purple haired little freaks off the streets and take them to the woodshed 🤣 

I can hear the wailing now hahaha!

 

[+Nuclear Wessel]

14 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

Her record is pretty bad

I'd argue that her record is more nuanced than that. IMO, her record is more emblematic of the complexities and challenges that those in high-profile, high-stakes roles experience.

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and her time as attorney general of California had some bad things happen under her watch.

Absolutely, but the extent to which she or her department were at fault can certainly be explored.

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Besides from her record there is what people working in her campaign have said about her.  Her campaign staff in 2020 described her as indecisive and allowed competing factions to form in her campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/us/politics/kamala-harris-2020.html

She also burns through high level staffers at an incredible rate seemingly due to her extreme criticism of her staffers along with lashing out at staffers due to her low self confidence.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/04/kamala-harris-staff-departures/

Former staffers even describe her as a bully.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-lacks-top-team-for-white-house-bid/

 

 

All of those points touch on issues that are common throughout practically any high-stakes political campaign, successful or otherwise. For instance, Barack Obama's 2008 campaign, Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign, and George W. Bush's 2000 campaign all faced significant internal conflicts, strategic missteps, and high staff turnover.

14 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

Ultimately Kamala does not have a track record of being able to run a successful national campaign and it seems like she has not improved in that regard as vice president.  There is a good chance her 2024 presidential campaign will go about as well as her 2020 campaign attempt.

There's a chance, but I hesitate to call it a good chance especially in light of the fact that she has raised almost a quarter of a billion dollars over the past several days compared to the $39 million she raised in 2019 before suspending her campaign.

Either way, I will be interested in seeing what happens.

Edited July 26 by Nuclear Wessel

[Doc Socks Junior]

1 hour ago, F3SS said:

That only works if he resigns, dies or 25th ammendment. The president doesn't juat get to appoint a candidate like that and if you dems had any vision beyond what a person looks like you might have something to say about it. But you don't. All you see is a woman and that's all that matters. 

Projection, projection.

A political party can appoint their candidate however they choose, and the president is the head of the party. Really, it simply matters how people view the choice.

Well, most probably it matters how likely Democratic voters view the choice.

[+Razman]

1 hour ago, F3SS said:

That only works if he resigns, dies or 25th ammendment. The president doesn't juat get to appoint a candidate like that and if you dems had any vision beyond what a person looks like you might have something to say about it. But you don't. All you see is a woman and that's all that matters. 

I don't think he is choosing her , he is endorsing here , but there is a difference , it doesn't automatically go to her.

[F3SS]

1 hour ago, Razman said:

I don't think he is choosing her , he is endorsing here , but there is a difference , it doesn't automatically go to her.

You're right, I was thrown off cause she said he passed the torch to her. Still though, primaries were held and nobody votes for the upcoming ticket. Imagine Hillary was president and did the same and the vp she picked who nobody knows or remembers now was just given the candidacy. I think everybody here would be singing a different tune crowing about how they never voted for that guy. All they see now is a glass ceiling and they want to break it at any cost.

[+Sherapy]

3 hours ago, F3SS said:

That only works if he resigns, dies or 25th ammendment. The president doesn't juat get to appoint a candidate like that and if you dems had any vision beyond what a person looks like you might have something to say about it. But you don't. All you see is a woman and that's all that matters. 

The people will decide, this is clear in my post. Biden endorsed her, the people will or won't choose her. 

Your canidate is trump, for your own reasons which you are entitled to.  

 

Edited July 26 by Sherapy

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 hours ago, Sherapy said:

Biden passed the torch to her it is on her to earn the vote. For many, she is doing fabulous so far. She is tough as nails, can handle anything, not like Trump who doesn’t demonstrate resilience at all. 

For me, it is a no brainer Kamala has my vote and much to my delight on her own merit, the males in my family who are all  Republican’s  like her toughness, go figure.

Vote for who you want.  All the best to you.

 

Great Post Sheri, thanks for sharing.

[Grim Reaper 6]

Donald Trump’s critics are accusing him of chickening out on a debate with Vice President Kamala Harris in September after the former president’s campaign put plans for a matchup on hold on Thursday night.

Trump had previously challenged President Joe Biden to a debate “anytime, anywhere, anyplace,” which led to an agreement for two debates: one in June, followed by a second in September. 

But Trump appears to be rethinking that with Biden out of the race and Harris now likely to replace him. 

Harris mocked the former president with a blunt reminder of his own words:

'Trump Is Chicken': Critics Taunt 'Scared' Trump For Bailing On Debate (msn.com)

@Sherapy

 

Edited July 26 by Grim Reaper 6

[Grim Reaper 6]

@Link of Hyrule it's looking very bad for you dude, get ready to bend the knee!!!!!

🤣

[+Sherapy]

4 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

I'd argue that her record is more nuanced than that. IMO, her record is more emblematic of the complexities and challenges that those in high-profile, high-stakes roles experience.

Absolutely, but the extent to which she or her department were at fault can certainly be explored.

 

All of those points touch on issues that are common throughout practically any high-stakes political campaign, successful or otherwise. For instance, Barack Obama's 2008 campaign, Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign, and George W. Bush's 2000 campaign all faced significant internal conflicts, strategic missteps, and high staff turnover.

There's a chance, but I hesitate to call it a good chance especially in light of the fact that she has raised almost a quarter of a billion dollars over the past several days compared to the $39 million she raised in 2019 before suspending her campaign.

Either way, I will be interested in seeing what happens.

Excellent post, NW. On a side note: She is raising money at a record level, in 5 days. I'd say her chances are real good. 🤣We donated to her campaign too. I know so many who have!

Edited July 26 by Sherapy

[+and-then]

All he said was he'd debate once the Democrats had formally nominated their candidate.  I don't see why that's an issue.  The convention is in 3 weeks, yes?  He said just yesterday he thinks they should have multiple debates.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-campaign-kamala-harris/2024/07/25/id/1174020/

He wants the debate somewhere other than ABC and he just wants to wait until she's the official nominee. - nonstory...

Edited July 26 by and-then

[Tatetopa]

2 minutes ago, and-then said:

All he said was he'd debate once the Democrats had formally nominated their candidate.  I don't see why that's an issue.  The convention is in 3 weeks, yes?  He said just yesterday he thinks they should have multiple debates.

You are right, its not a big issue.  

He said he would testify at every trial he has been in but his lawyers knew it was a bad move and prevented it.

He said he wants to debate Kamala, but will his handlers let him, oir are they afraid he will look as lame as Biden did?

I guess we will see.