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Secret Service Director Cheatle resigns after Trump assassination attempt


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Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigned on Tuesday following a disastrous appearance before Congress to review the assassination attempt against former President Trump.

Cheatle has faced calls to resign since the July 13 rally in Butler, Pa., during which a gunman managed to fire shots at Trump, piercing his ear.

But those calls grew louder during a hearing before the Oversight Committee in which Cheatle infuriated lawmakers on both sides by sidestepping multiple questions and failing to provide sought-after details about how the agency was reckoning with its failure to secure Trump’s safety.

 

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2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

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It is expected as that is usually what happens when a dept fks up someone steps down. 

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Gotta love DEI. Assign someone to the Secret Service that once guarded Doritos. :wacko:

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2 minutes ago, Hawken said:

Gotta love DEI. Assign someone to the Secret Service that once guarded Doritos. :wacko:

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Who was she guarding Doritos from, Trump? Lol

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Good. Regardless of the partisan chatter surrounding this. The facts that highlight significant failures by the department clearly show that someone in a position of managing authority needed be held responsible.

27 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Hawken

Who was she guarding Doritos from, Trump? Lol

Cheetos are his jam. He's literally covered in Cheeto dust.

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2 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Cheetos are his jam. He's literally covered in Cheeto dust.

Beat me to it :D

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1 hour ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Hawken

Who was she guarding Doritos from, Trump? Lol

 

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I feel sorry for her myself. There were enough personnel on site to do their job right and her men let her down.

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Can I just point something out?  When you have agents to be used as human shields shouldn't they come up higher than the lower ribcage of the person being protected?  DEI bad, m'kay.

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2 hours ago, OverSword said:

It's about time my friend, our nation and people deserve no less!!!!!:yes:

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12 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Can I just point something out?  When you have agents to be used as human shields shouldn't they come up higher than the lower ribcage of the person being protected?  DEI bad, m'kay.

On Guttfeld last night Tyrus said his thighs would be perfectly safe if Greg tried to protect him. Unfortunately, his vital organ are higher. :lol:

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2 minutes ago, Michelle said:

On Guttfeld last night Tyrus said his thighs would be perfectly safe if Greg tried to protect him. Unfortunately, his vital organ are higher. :lol:

Exactly, there should be a height requirement to cover most of the president.

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Cheatle probably should resign.  She did fail after all.  

As for height requirements- pretty useless if the shooter is on a roof.  You would need people taller and wider than the "protectee" if you are going to shield them with your body and even then the angle of attack could render that useless.

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52 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

I feel sorry for her myself. There were enough personnel on site to do their job right and her men let her down.

I think this is right. They had the Barney Fife Brigade face-to-face with the shooter, for instance. Plenty of on-the-ground opportunities to have prevented this that had nothing to do with the person at the top.

That being said, I suppose the buck stops with her. Reasonable to resign.

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54 minutes ago, Hawken said:

Exactly, there should be a height requirement to cover most of the president.

No more than 3 inches shorter than the subject.

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51 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Cheatle probably should resign.  She did fail after all.  

As for height requirements- pretty useless if the shooter is on a roof.  You would need people taller and wider than the "protectee" if you are going to shield them with your body and even then the angle of attack could render that useless.

But not if the shooter is not on a roof which is the case for the majority of presidential murders.

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2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

No more than 3 inches shorter than the subject.

Trump is 6 ft. 3 in. fairly tall.

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39 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

I think this is right. They had the Barney Fife Brigade face-to-face with the shooter, for instance. Plenty of on-the-ground opportunities to have prevented this that had nothing to do with the person at the top.

That being said, I suppose the buck stops with her. Reasonable to resign.

By her own testimony she is very hands off to the point where she seemed very unaware of much of what goes on at the secret service so the Barney Fife brigade having the assignment is 100% due to her lack of diligence and ignorance.

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2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

But not if the shooter is not on a roof which is the case for the majority of presidential murders.

Most of the presidential murders happened so fast that the secret service couldn't even shield the target....  Lincoln, Garfield, Kennedy, and McKinley.

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1 minute ago, Hawken said:

Trump is 6 ft. 3 in. fairly tall.

six feet tall seems like a pretty median height when it comes to male secret service agents

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3 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Most of the presidential murders happened so fast that the secret service couldn't even shield the target....  Lincoln, Garfield, Kennedy, and McKinley.

It's not fair to the secret service to compare current processes to anything up to Kennedy as that incident greatly changed everything about how they operate.

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25 minutes ago, OverSword said:

No more than 3 inches shorter than the subject.

That gets tricky if the principal is a giant like the SECDEF. Protective Services is far more than a height, weight and gender requirement. 

I encourage you to do some research on the subject instead of what is popular on your message boards. I'm not saying the one agent was right or wrong but the narrative being built is based on a complete lack of details on the what was happening at the principal (President Trump). We don't know what the communication was between the agents on site and what was coming through the "whisper mics". Did the photos look bad? Sure. But there's clearly more that none of us truly know.

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4 minutes ago, OverSword said:

It's not fair to the secret service to compare current processes to anything up to Kennedy as that incident greatly changed everything about how they operate.

Not so sure about what changes you are mentioning. Because they sure didn't help Reagan. Hinckley got far closer than Oswald

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6 minutes ago, Trelane said:

That gets tricky if the principal is a giant like the SECDEF. Protective Services is far more that a height, weight and gender requirement. 

I encourage you to do some research on the subject instead of what is popular on your message boards. I'm not saying the one agent was right or wrong but the narrative being built is based on a complete lack of details on the what was happening at the principal (president Trump). We don't know what the communication was between the agents on site and what was coming through the "whisper mics". Did the photos look bad? Sure. But there's clearly more that none of us truly know.

I'm just suggesting a guideline.  Also this is the only thing like a message board I participate in.

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Just now, OverSword said:

I'm just suggesting a guideline.  Also this is the only thing like a message board I participate in.

In some protective services divisions, it's been tried and it didn't really make a difference. That's why some standards have been changed over the years. 

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