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Elise said they kept quiet at the time out of embarrassment because Conan Doyle supported the story and was a vehement Spiritualist. 

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This has been debunked multiple times.  

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The photos debunk themselves . . .  unless you have a meter.

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What I find interesting isn't the hoax itself but that I don't think the girls story is 100% what really happened.
No, I don't believe they ever saw real fairies as fairies do not exist,
There dad had a darkroom at a time most folks didn't have self pictures
I think the dad played a much bigger part in things like going for the very crappy hazy original pics and the later ones where the fairies really popped out at you.
For whatever reason Dad didn't want self spotlight.

 

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2 hours ago, the13bats said:

What I find interesting isn't the hoax itself but that I don't think the girls story is 100% what really happened.
No, I don't believe they ever saw real fairies as fairies do not exist,
There dad had a darkroom at a time most folks didn't have self pictures
I think the dad played a much bigger part in things like going for the very crappy hazy original pics and the later ones where the fairies really popped out at you.
For whatever reason Dad didn't want self spotlight.

 

Bats 🦇 I also think their father was directly involved in the incident; in fact, I suspect he put the girls up to it and by doing that he was left out of the spotlight if things went south.

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23 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Bats 🦇 I also think their father was directly involved in the incident; in fact, I suspect he put the girls up to it and by doing that he was left out of the spotlight if things went south.

I admit I always liked this case and studied it a bit more than I should have,

On an episode of Arthur Clark's mysterious universe they show a brief segment about cottingley and an English photo expert someway found the original negative of the famous pic and showed even it had tampered wth in that the girls face was rubbed with he said likely brasso then the print was heavily airbrushed the Photoshop of that era,
Of course the girls didn't do that but a dad into the photo hobby could have n fact I think he and Gardner teamed up.
I don't buy at all the girls or anyone cared they duped people including Conan Doyle.
This wasn't a case where a little hoax ran away and went viral in that era it took a lot of work for it to have got out there.

 

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11 minutes ago, the13bats said:

I admit I always liked this case and studied it a bit more than I should have,

On an episode of Arthur Clark's mysterious universe they show a brief segment about cottingley and an English photo expert someway found the original negative of the famous pic and showed even it had tampered wth in that the girls face was rubbed with he said likely brasso then the print was heavily airbrushed the Photoshop of that era,
Of course the girls didn't do that but a dad into the photo hobby could have n fact I think he and Gardner teamed up.
I don't buy at all the girls or anyone cared they duped people including Conan Doyle.
This wasn't a case where a little hoax ran away and went viral in that era it took a lot of work for it to have got out there.

 

While I actually know little about the subject, I am very aware that during that time frame photographic hoax’s of supernatural events was common place. That photo always appeared to be a hoax to me, it appears that the fairy images where over laid on the photo.
 

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5 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

While I actually know little about the subject, I am very aware that during that time frame photographic hoax’s of supernatural events was common place. That photo always appeared to be a hoax to me, it appears that the fairy images where over laid on the photo.
 

No, it's actually pretty cool the older girl had a picture book of dancing girls and traced them added wings taped them to hat pins and wormed it into the earth,
I found it super weird when it did go viral no one recognized the pictures as from a book .
What you are seeing is the fairies were made to pop were the girl is subdued, all photo editing of the day.

 

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2 minutes ago, the13bats said:

No, it's actually pretty cool the older girl had a picture book of dancing girls and traced them added wings taped them to hat pins and wormed it into the earth,
I found it super weird when it did go viral no one recognized the pictures as from a book .
What you are seeing is the fairies were made to pop were the girl is subdued, all photo editing of the day.

 

That explains a lot, I know little about photography thanks for sharing my friend.

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8 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

That explains a lot, I know little about photography thanks for sharing my friend.

As you see I got a bit too into this case, not because of the surface but the extra layers.

I dig the case of the Minnesota ice man in the same way, it was a hoax but it has a lot of layers and unanswered questions.

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1 hour ago, the13bats said:

I admit I always liked this case and studied it a bit more than I should have,

On an episode of Arthur Clark's mysterious universe they show a brief segment about cottingley and an English photo expert someway found the original negative of the famous pic and showed even it had tampered wth in that the girls face was rubbed with he said likely brasso then the print was heavily airbrushed the Photoshop of that era,
Of course the girls didn't do that but a dad into the photo hobby could have n fact I think he and Gardner teamed up.
I don't buy at all the girls or anyone cared they duped people including Conan Doyle.
This wasn't a case where a little hoax ran away and went viral in that era it took a lot of work for it to have got out there.

 

Here is the Arthur C. Clarke's World of Strange Powers episode if anyone is interested.
Lined up at the 8:29 mark.

 

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5 minutes ago, smokeycat said:

Here is the Arthur C. Clarke's World of Strange Powers episode if anyone is interested.
Lined up at the 8:29 mark.

 

Thank you!
I was just too lazy feeling poorly to go grab it, great episodebi have it on SSD, l love the unexplained ghost segment.

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1 hour ago, the13bats said:

As you see I got a bit too into this case, not because of the surface but the extra layers.

I dig the case of the Minnesota ice man in the same way, it was a hoax but it has a lot of layers and unanswered questions.

I understand I am the same way sometimes my friend.

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13 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I understand I am the same way sometimes my friend.

Another case I liked was naree pons,

I think it was my first post here...

I don't think the story was true I believe these are artists created but I want to know how, I've made gaffs these are delightful.

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23 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Another case I liked was naree pons,

I think it was my first post here...

I don't think the story was true I believe these are artists created but I want to know how, I've made gaffs these are delightful.

I went to your old post and those are certainly interesting looking creations, have you ever determined how they made?

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19 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I went to your old post and those are certainly interesting looking creations, have you ever determined how they made?

No, I have not figured it out, I'm very OCD so in a case of a gaff how much will it be examined, you know does it need a skeleton in case it's x-rayed,
Most such gaffs are in a no touch can't get too close display and just have to look at them.
Back stories are of course taken at face value, if I had my guess the naree pons are natural hide of some type, it could be rather dark like some sort of fetus, they still sell real shrunken heads on feebay, they are real as in made of goat skin formed on hot positive bucks, the hair is trimmed to look like beards, mustaches etc.
The naree could be some sort of plant, some plants do take on a very human like look, they might be a type of orchid or seed pod
Oddly these seem to be the only two like them.

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, the13bats said:

No, I have not figured it out, I'm very OCD so in a case of a gaff how much will it be examined, you know does it need a skeleton in case it's x-rayed,

Never heard of gaff being used like that.
In the UK the term gaff is a slang word for house/home but can also be used to mean mistake.

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12 hours ago, smokeycat said:

Never heard of gaff being used like that.
In the UK the term gaff is a slang word for house/home but can also be used to mean mistake.

I use gaff as a broad term for made up props used in sideshows it might be real creatures like a Fiji mermaid or all fake like pigmy mud people, pickled punks are real specimens in jars which are real, if we have a real unique creature say a two headed snake then it's not to me a gaff but a specimen however I do see some place anything sideshow under the "gaff" umbrella.
The Peru alien mummys would be gaffs.

 

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I like this fairies story, but it's as real as the Patterson - Gimlin' bigfoot.

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