UM-Bot Posted July 29 #1 Share Posted July 29 In 1917, two young girls claimed to have photographed real-life fairies in a small village in England. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/379265/scientists-analyze-cameras-used-to-capture-the-cottingley-fairies 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted July 29 #2 Share Posted July 29 (edited) Elise said they kept quiet at the time out of embarrassment because Conan Doyle supported the story and was a vehement Spiritualist. Edited July 29 by Antigonos 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 29 #3 Share Posted July 29 This has been debunked multiple times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted July 29 #4 Share Posted July 29 The photos debunk themselves . . . unless you have a meter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 30 #5 Share Posted July 30 What I find interesting isn't the hoax itself but that I don't think the girls story is 100% what really happened. No, I don't believe they ever saw real fairies as fairies do not exist, There dad had a darkroom at a time most folks didn't have self pictures I think the dad played a much bigger part in things like going for the very crappy hazy original pics and the later ones where the fairies really popped out at you. For whatever reason Dad didn't want self spotlight. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 #6 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, the13bats said: What I find interesting isn't the hoax itself but that I don't think the girls story is 100% what really happened. No, I don't believe they ever saw real fairies as fairies do not exist, There dad had a darkroom at a time most folks didn't have self pictures I think the dad played a much bigger part in things like going for the very crappy hazy original pics and the later ones where the fairies really popped out at you. For whatever reason Dad didn't want self spotlight. Bats 🦇 I also think their father was directly involved in the incident; in fact, I suspect he put the girls up to it and by doing that he was left out of the spotlight if things went south. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 30 #7 Share Posted July 30 23 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Bats 🦇 I also think their father was directly involved in the incident; in fact, I suspect he put the girls up to it and by doing that he was left out of the spotlight if things went south. I admit I always liked this case and studied it a bit more than I should have, On an episode of Arthur Clark's mysterious universe they show a brief segment about cottingley and an English photo expert someway found the original negative of the famous pic and showed even it had tampered wth in that the girls face was rubbed with he said likely brasso then the print was heavily airbrushed the Photoshop of that era, Of course the girls didn't do that but a dad into the photo hobby could have n fact I think he and Gardner teamed up. I don't buy at all the girls or anyone cared they duped people including Conan Doyle. This wasn't a case where a little hoax ran away and went viral in that era it took a lot of work for it to have got out there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 #8 Share Posted July 30 11 minutes ago, the13bats said: I admit I always liked this case and studied it a bit more than I should have, On an episode of Arthur Clark's mysterious universe they show a brief segment about cottingley and an English photo expert someway found the original negative of the famous pic and showed even it had tampered wth in that the girls face was rubbed with he said likely brasso then the print was heavily airbrushed the Photoshop of that era, Of course the girls didn't do that but a dad into the photo hobby could have n fact I think he and Gardner teamed up. I don't buy at all the girls or anyone cared they duped people including Conan Doyle. This wasn't a case where a little hoax ran away and went viral in that era it took a lot of work for it to have got out there. While I actually know little about the subject, I am very aware that during that time frame photographic hoax’s of supernatural events was common place. That photo always appeared to be a hoax to me, it appears that the fairy images where over laid on the photo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 30 #9 Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: While I actually know little about the subject, I am very aware that during that time frame photographic hoax’s of supernatural events was common place. That photo always appeared to be a hoax to me, it appears that the fairy images where over laid on the photo. No, it's actually pretty cool the older girl had a picture book of dancing girls and traced them added wings taped them to hat pins and wormed it into the earth, I found it super weird when it did go viral no one recognized the pictures as from a book . What you are seeing is the fairies were made to pop were the girl is subdued, all photo editing of the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 #10 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, the13bats said: No, it's actually pretty cool the older girl had a picture book of dancing girls and traced them added wings taped them to hat pins and wormed it into the earth, I found it super weird when it did go viral no one recognized the pictures as from a book . What you are seeing is the fairies were made to pop were the girl is subdued, all photo editing of the day. That explains a lot, I know little about photography thanks for sharing my friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 30 #11 Share Posted July 30 8 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: That explains a lot, I know little about photography thanks for sharing my friend. As you see I got a bit too into this case, not because of the surface but the extra layers. I dig the case of the Minnesota ice man in the same way, it was a hoax but it has a lot of layers and unanswered questions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeycat Posted July 30 #12 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, the13bats said: I admit I always liked this case and studied it a bit more than I should have, On an episode of Arthur Clark's mysterious universe they show a brief segment about cottingley and an English photo expert someway found the original negative of the famous pic and showed even it had tampered wth in that the girls face was rubbed with he said likely brasso then the print was heavily airbrushed the Photoshop of that era, Of course the girls didn't do that but a dad into the photo hobby could have n fact I think he and Gardner teamed up. I don't buy at all the girls or anyone cared they duped people including Conan Doyle. This wasn't a case where a little hoax ran away and went viral in that era it took a lot of work for it to have got out there. Here is the Arthur C. Clarke's World of Strange Powers episode if anyone is interested. Lined up at the 8:29 mark. Edited July 30 by smokeycat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 30 #13 Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, smokeycat said: Here is the Arthur C. Clarke's World of Strange Powers episode if anyone is interested. Lined up at the 8:29 mark. Thank you! I was just too lazy feeling poorly to go grab it, great episodebi have it on SSD, l love the unexplained ghost segment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 #14 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, the13bats said: As you see I got a bit too into this case, not because of the surface but the extra layers. I dig the case of the Minnesota ice man in the same way, it was a hoax but it has a lot of layers and unanswered questions. I understand I am the same way sometimes my friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 30 #15 Share Posted July 30 13 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: I understand I am the same way sometimes my friend. Another case I liked was naree pons, I think it was my first post here... I don't think the story was true I believe these are artists created but I want to know how, I've made gaffs these are delightful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 #16 Share Posted July 30 23 minutes ago, the13bats said: Another case I liked was naree pons, I think it was my first post here... I don't think the story was true I believe these are artists created but I want to know how, I've made gaffs these are delightful. I went to your old post and those are certainly interesting looking creations, have you ever determined how they made? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 30 #17 Share Posted July 30 19 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: I went to your old post and those are certainly interesting looking creations, have you ever determined how they made? No, I have not figured it out, I'm very OCD so in a case of a gaff how much will it be examined, you know does it need a skeleton in case it's x-rayed, Most such gaffs are in a no touch can't get too close display and just have to look at them. Back stories are of course taken at face value, if I had my guess the naree pons are natural hide of some type, it could be rather dark like some sort of fetus, they still sell real shrunken heads on feebay, they are real as in made of goat skin formed on hot positive bucks, the hair is trimmed to look like beards, mustaches etc. The naree could be some sort of plant, some plants do take on a very human like look, they might be a type of orchid or seed pod Oddly these seem to be the only two like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeycat Posted July 31 #18 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 10 hours ago, the13bats said: No, I have not figured it out, I'm very OCD so in a case of a gaff how much will it be examined, you know does it need a skeleton in case it's x-rayed, Never heard of gaff being used like that. In the UK the term gaff is a slang word for house/home but can also be used to mean mistake. Edited July 31 by smokeycat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 31 #19 Share Posted July 31 12 hours ago, smokeycat said: Never heard of gaff being used like that. In the UK the term gaff is a slang word for house/home but can also be used to mean mistake. I use gaff as a broad term for made up props used in sideshows it might be real creatures like a Fiji mermaid or all fake like pigmy mud people, pickled punks are real specimens in jars which are real, if we have a real unique creature say a two headed snake then it's not to me a gaff but a specimen however I do see some place anything sideshow under the "gaff" umbrella. The Peru alien mummys would be gaffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted August 13 #20 Share Posted August 13 I like this fairies story, but it's as real as the Patterson - Gimlin' bigfoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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