Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 29 #1 Share Posted July 29 During the investigation of the criminal case of corruption against the former Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Bulgakov, it was revealed that the department fed its Muslim soldiers pork. Allegedly, Bulgakov, who was responsible for the logistics of the troops in the Russian Defense Ministry, received kickbacks from the owner of a meat-packing plant, Alexander Mikhailenko, who, in order to save money, replaced beef in the dry rations of Russian soldiers with cheaper pork. And since the product labeling was fake, it was consumed, including by Muslims serving in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces, which is directly prohibited by their religion and is considered a grave sin. Russian Defense Ministry Fed Its Muslim Soldiers Pork - Belarusian News - Charter'97 (charter97.org) 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted July 29 #2 Share Posted July 29 7 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: During the investigation of the criminal case of corruption against the former Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Bulgakov, it was revealed that the department fed its Muslim soldiers pork. Allegedly, Bulgakov, who was responsible for the logistics of the troops in the Russian Defense Ministry, received kickbacks from the owner of a meat-packing plant, Alexander Mikhailenko, who, in order to save money, replaced beef in the dry rations of Russian soldiers with cheaper pork. And since the product labeling was fake, it was consumed, including by Muslims serving in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces, which is directly prohibited by their religion and is considered a grave sin. Russian Defense Ministry Fed Its Muslim Soldiers Pork - Belarusian News - Charter'97 (charter97.org) Well...I guess they'll figure out it won't kill them at least.meh 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 29 #3 Share Posted July 29 I wonder if Vladdy's pals in Tehran know about this? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 29 Author #4 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, Trelane said: I wonder if Vladdy's pals in Tehran know about this? Well, they should know about it now, I wonder how they will respond to this news. I have to ask, when you were in the Middle East did you ever give a Muslin a pork MRE? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 29 Author #5 Share Posted July 29 20 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: Well...I guess they'll figure out it won't kill them at least.meh Yea, but according to their religious beliefs after eating pork they are no longer pure! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted July 29 #6 Share Posted July 29 Just now, Grim Reaper 6 said: Yea, but according to their religious beliefs after eating pork they are no longer pure! If they are suspects in terror events,I could see feeding them dehydrated pig s*** for all I care. Feeding those helping on ones own side...well they are fighting for Russia,so again,oh well 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 29 #7 Share Posted July 29 Modern farming techniques means pigs aren`t the source of disease and parasites they once were. Left to their own devices they are disgusting animals that will eat poop, their own kind, and even human beings if they fall unconscious in their sty. They will eat everything, even rubbish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 29 Author #8 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: If they are suspects in terror events,I could see feeding them dehydrated pig s*** for all I care. Feeding those helping on ones own side...well they are fighting for Russia,so again,oh well 😆 Yea I certainly agree with you! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 29 #9 Share Posted July 29 35 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: Well...I guess they'll figure out it won't kill them at least.meh With Russian corruption, I wouldn't be too sure. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 29 Author #10 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Duke Wellington said: Modern farming techniques means pigs aren`t the source of disease and parasites they once were. Left to their own devices they are disgusting animals that will eat poop, their own kind, and even human beings if they fall unconscious in their sty. They will eat everything, even rubbish. Well the reason Muslims don’t eat pork is because they believe that the Pig is an unclean animal and if eaten it also make them unclean in the eyes of their god. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 29 #11 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said: Modern farming techniques means pigs aren`t the source of disease and parasites they once were. Left to their own devices they are disgusting animals that will eat poop, their own kind, and even human beings if they fall unconscious in their sty. They will eat everything, even rubbish. Agriculture and science have advanced but no religious doctrines have. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 29 Author #12 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Tatetopa said: Agriculture and science have advanced but no religious doctrines have. That’s certainly true Tate, and that’s the real issue here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 29 #13 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Well the reason Muslims don’t eat pork is because they believe that the Pig is an unclean animal and if eaten it also make them unclean in the eyes of their god. I think unclean refers to disease and parasite ridden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 29 Author #14 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said: I think unclean refers to disease and parasite ridden. Actually unclean means that their body is no longer clean in the eyes of their god, unclear is a religious reference! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 29 #15 Share Posted July 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Actually unclean means that their body is no longer clean in the eyes of their god, unclear is a religious reference! Well it wouldn`t be after gaining pig diseases and parasites. If we want to be religiously exact then God does not let anyone with any defect or illness into his presence. That is in all Abrahamic religions. Edited July 29 by Duke Wellington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 29 #16 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Well, they should know about it now, I wonder how they will respond to this news. I have to ask, when you were in the Middle East did you ever give a Muslin a pork MRE? No poly, no waiver, no statement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 29 #17 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, Duke Wellington said: Modern farming techniques means pigs aren`t the source of disease and parasites they once were. Left to their own devices they are disgusting animals that will eat poop, their own kind, and even human beings if they fall unconscious in their sty. They will eat everything, even rubbish. 😅 Leave the pigs alone! They are wonderful animals! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted July 29 #18 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, CrimsonKing said: If they are suspects in terror events,I could see feeding them dehydrated pig s*** for all I care. Feeding those helping on ones own side...well they are fighting for Russia,so again,oh well 😆 Suspects are just suspects and until they have gone in a fair trial and found guilty you can't say much about them. And I don't see why pork is not allowed in Islam. It didn't and it doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted July 29 #19 Share Posted July 29 Given The state russian soldiers are in (hardly any food or water)i think they would take anything they could get. Either way I'd be happy to see them savages starve. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted July 29 #20 Share Posted July 29 18 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Suspects are just suspects and until they have gone in a fair trial and found guilty you can't say much about them. Shows what you know,I can say anything I want to about them,I'm not held to any oath. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 29 #21 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Actually unclean means that their body is no longer clean in the eyes of their god, unclear is a religious reference! Because of Leviticus just like the Jews they used swine herds to eat the rubbish around the city including the dead bodies outside the walls. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 29 #22 Share Posted July 29 44 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Suspects are just suspects and until they have gone in a fair trial and found guilty you can't say much about them. And I don't see why pork is not allowed in Islam. It didn't and it doesn't make sense. Just now, Piney said: Because of Leviticus just like the Jews they used swine herds to eat the rubbish around the city including the dead bodies outside the walls. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 Author #23 Share Posted July 30 37 minutes ago, Piney said: Because of Leviticus just like the Jews they used swine herds to eat the rubbish around the city including the dead bodies outside the walls. It certainly makes sense and that is certainly part of the reason why Muslims don’t eat pork, but there are also religious aspects also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 Author #24 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, diddyman68 said: Given The state russian soldiers are in (hardly any food or water)i think they would take anything they could get. Either way I'd be happy to see them savages starve. A true Muslim would starve rather than eat pork, but I agree let them starve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 30 Author #25 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, MrAnderson said: Suspects are just suspects and until they have gone in a fair trial and found guilty you can't say much about them. And I don't see why pork is not allowed in Islam. It didn't and it doesn't make sense. There is no such thing as a fair trial in Russia, being found innocent is very rare! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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