Does the sixth sense exist?

[Grim Reaper 6]

34 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

As soon as something cannot be witnessed with the use of our regular senses, but is being recorded anyway, then it must be paranormal.

But our regular senses are more acute than many think. As soon as you put on blindfolds, all other senses become hyper-sensitive. And that's because we are a species that depends mainly on sight (and brains).

Btw., our eyes evolved from skin-cells.

Creationists are still unable to fathom that .

Great post, I certainly agree with you! While I have a very strong sense of intuition (Gut feeling). I attribute it to my subconscious mind processing information I see, and I believe every has this same ability, I also believe there is nothing paranormal about it.

[papageorge1]

7 minutes ago, Piney said:

The one that has been missing since 1994 was the only one I saw.

@Liquid Gardens

Indian Cultural Forum

'Blindfolded seeing: Story of a scam' 

Narenda Nayak Dec. 26, 2019

Nayak is on the ball and did his homework. 

from the article  in the method aren’t in fact truly blindfolded, but see through a tiny hole between the nose and the eye cover.

That explanation doesn't fit for the specialy designed mask the children used in the video.

Narendra Nayak is a notable rationalist from Mangalore. He is the president of the Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations, and the founder-secretary of the Dakshina Kannada Rationalist Association. He tours the country conducting workshops to promote scientific temper and showing people how to debunk god-men and frauds.

 

He in my mind becomes another James Randi. They have one mission.

[XenoFish]

Probably fall on blind eyes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/intuition

For all the empathy junkies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11212500/

https://positivepsychology.com/mirror-neurons/

[XenoFish]

Mirror neurons are the closest thing to a 'psychic ability' and it's psychological. Nothing quantum or whatever esoteric label you want to put on it. 

[papageorge1]

5 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

You really are a gullible individual (I used a nice word). Sure I'm sure the quantity, quality, and consistency of the confirmation bias you operate under is good enough for you. Just because you've read 100,000 stories or watched 100,000 that doesn't mean you've actually applied a single drop of actual skepticism. You're too much of an armchair believer for that.

And I consider you the archetype of the dogmatic non-believer, so we don't have very high opinions of each other.

 

[XenoFish]

5 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

And I consider you the archetype of the dogmatic non-believer, so we don't have very high opinions of each other.

 

Let me correct you. It's not a dogmatic disbeliever. I'm more than willing to change my mind if or when real evidence is presented. As it currently stands, there is none. Nothing to go on. I was you at one point, thankfully I used my brain. Because I decided to ask how and why things happened. I'd say that roughly 99% of all paranormal events/experiences have a very mundane explanation. Even supposed psychic abilities. Just remember PG, I was actually doing stuff. Not watching videos, reading books, but legit practicing. I did the whole energy worker, psychic, occult thing. What exactly have you done? Plus I've got enough personal experience in those areas to make me a true believer. I just know too well that our senses are not infallible. 

Edited July 30 by XenoFish
Can not spell today

[papageorge1]

1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

Let me correct you. It's not a dogmatic disbeliever. I'm more than willing to change my mind if or when real evidence is presented. As it currently stands, there is none. Nothing to go on. I was you at one point, thankfully I used my brain. Because I decided to ask how and why things happened. I'd say that roughly 99% of all paranormal events/experiences have a very mundane explanation. Even supposed psychic abilities. Just remember PG, I was actually doing stuff. Not watching videos, reading books, but legit practicing. I did the whole energy worker, psychic, occult thing. What exactly have you done? Plus I've got enough personal experience in those areas to make me a true believer. I just know too well that our senses are not infallible. 

My opinion is that although some things may have let you down you developed an axe to grind against any paranormal beliefs making you no longer fair-minded.

[XenoFish]

6 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

My opinion is that although some things may have let you down you developed an axe to grind against any paranormal beliefs making you no longer fair-minded.

You are what made it so screwed up. People like yourself. When an individual like myself puts in a lot of time into something. Looks for the real reason's behind such and such event, it is always people like you who support the frauds, fakes, and con-artist. I'm jaded because there can be no real investigations, not real effort and not worthwhile discussions about the supernatural, paranormal, or other such phenomena. You believe blindly and I've learned too much.

[papageorge1]

2 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

You are what made it so screwed up. People like yourself. When an individual like myself puts in a lot of time into something. Looks for the real reason's behind such and such event, it is always people like you who support the frauds, fakes, and con-artist. I'm jaded because there can be no real investigations, not real effort and not worthwhile discussions about the supernatural, paranormal, or other such phenomena. You believe blindly and I've learned too much.

I think your angry zeal makes you label honest people frauds, fakes and con-artists. Your negativity towards people in general is over the top of rational levels.

[XenoFish]

Just now, papageorge1 said:

I think your angry zeal makes you label honest people frauds, fakes and con-artists. Your negativity towards people in general is over the top of rational levels.

What have you actually done? Have you went ghost hunting? Have you used the ouija board? Have you played a psychic game using poker cards? Attempted telekinesis? Have you questioned (I mean really questioned) any experiences? 

My 'negativity' is knowing full well that a person who's honestly interested will have to wade through **** creek. 

[papageorge1]

3 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

What have you actually done? Have you went ghost hunting? Have you used the ouija board? Have you played a psychic game using poker cards? Attempted telekinesis? Have you questioned (I mean really questioned) any experiences? 

My 'negativity' is knowing full well that a person who's honestly interested will have to wade through **** creek. 

I am not very psychically inclined, but I am convinced that some people are. You are using yourself as a sample size of one and forming all-encompassing opinions. Probably there's a Latin term for that logical misstep.

[Grim Reaper 6]

12 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I am not very psychically inclined, but I am convinced that some people are. You are using yourself as a sample size of one and forming all-encompassing opinions. Probably there's a Latin term for that logical misstep.

Do you call intuition a psychic sense?

[XenoFish]

14 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I am not very psychically inclined, but I am convinced that some people are. You are using yourself as a sample size of one and forming all-encompassing opinions. Probably there's a Latin term for that logical misstep.

I'm not the only one who's delved deeper into these subjects. I'd be willing to bet the other skeptics have as well. So I guess you tried nothing then. 

[+Hammerclaw]

1 hour ago, Michelle said:

We never lose it when it comes to our husbands either. 😄

You have big shoes to fill. (He says with a sardonic grin.)

[papageorge1]

40 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Do you call intuition a psychic sense?

Probably if it’s not just based on rational processes and is aLao accurate beyond chance. I believe it does happen.

[Piney]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

And I consider you the archetype of the dogmatic non-believer, so we don't have very high opinions of each other.

 

At least he put in the work and tried to do spiritual things rather than "watch videos". 

Your even too lazy to meditate. 

[Piney]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

 

He in my mind becomes another James Randi. They have one mission.

To save people from being conned? 

[+Liquid Gardens]

2 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

Let's stick to the simplest examples like at 3:00 in this video

Okay, and?  I'm tempted since you've assured me that you thoroughly understand skepticism if you can note some possible issues, but with @Piney's mention I see that this has already been addressed ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dDfGqnZQM ) and asking questions you will avoid is pointless. 

First of all these children don't appear to be blind, which was the claim I was dealing with.  Second you apparently are missing something totally obvious, we have no idea how long this interaction took, for all you know these kids are guessing cards or words or whatever and failed many times but of course only the successes are on the video.  Third and pretty damning in my opinion, at about 3:21 she shows a card to Harry of an owl and there's no response and she asks if she needed to come closer.  As she approaches him you can then see Harry in the somewhat blurry background sitting and he's clearing moving his head around, almost like he's trying to see through his blindfold.  Why would he do that if he can't see at all in these super blindfolds you think were used?

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He in my mind becomes another James Randi. They have one mission.

Haha it's interesting to see this hypocritical defense mechanism of yours in action.  You don't know anything about Nayak yet just hand-wave his findings away, I don't think you even realize how biased and inconsistent this is with your near total credulity when dealing with a video of something you want to believe.

Thanks for letting me know about another scam I guess, have all your questions about why researchers aren't rushing to study this yet now been answered?  They should be.

[Piney]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

I am not very psychically inclined, but I am convinced that some people are. You are using yourself as a sample size of one and forming all-encompassing opinions. Probably there's a Latin term for that logical misstep.

How do you know if you never put in the work like @XenoFish did?

And what does being psychically inclined have to do with getting off your ass and hunting ghosts and crypids?

I could of bought a third house with the time and money I put into hunting Bigfoot and ghosts.

 

[Piney]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

Your negativity towards people in general is over the top of rational levels.

So is your ignorance.

[Grim Reaper 6]

18 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Probably if it’s not just based on rational processes and is aLao accurate beyond chance. I believe it does happen.

I have very strong intuition, in fact it saved my life in the Middle East. However, I believe it is a function of the subconscious mind, I think our minds subconscious minds interpret what we see, hear, and smell in more detail than our conscious minds do. When, intuition occurs with me it causes a nervous feeling in my gut, I have learned to trust this feeling over what my conscious mind perceives.

[Piney]

42 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I have very strong intuition, in fact it saved my life in the Middle East. However, I believe it is a function of the subconscious mind, I think our minds subconscious minds interpret what we see, hear, and smell in more detail than our conscious minds do. When, intuition occurs with me it causes a nervous feeling in my gut, I have learned to trust this feeling over what my conscious mind perceives.

@Abramelin put up good links about the gut microbiome-mind connection. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 minutes ago, Piney said:

@Abramelin put up good links about the gut microbiome-mind connection. 

Do you have access to the links, if not I am certain that @Abramelin will provide them.

Thanks for your post Piney, I appreciate it.

[Piney]

11 hours ago, Abramelin said:

Maybe they're looking in the wrong place.

 

Your Second Brain

The Gut-Brain Connection

The gut-brain connection is complex and bidirectional. Signals pass both ways between your digestive system and central nervous system, and health or disease in one can affect the other. Key players in this connection include your enteric nervous system, your vagus nerve and your gut microbiome.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/the-gut-brain-connection

https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/your-gut-second-brain

https://neuroscience.ubc.ca/our-second-brain-more-than-a-gut-feeling/

https://www.wired.com/story/gut-second-brain-health-glial-cells-digestion-disease-pain/

 

 

@Grim Reaper 6

Here you go Craig! 😉

[Grim Reaper 6]

10 minutes ago, Piney said:

@Grim Reaper 6

Here you go Craig! 😉

Thanks very much, now on to another subject do you want me to pick those items we talked about the other day?.

If so send me your phone number and I will call you, to get the other needed information.