Tatetopa Posted August 3 #51 Share Posted August 3 9 minutes ago, Sherapy said: I loved the opening ceremony and am going to Paris in Feb. I was once in Paris on Bastille Day. There was a lot of singing, boozing, throwing firecrackers and dancing in the streets. Even the waiters were more tolerant. 🙂 A good time. I hope you have a wonderful time. So much to see there from 1000 year old buildings to the most modern art. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted August 3 #52 Share Posted August 3 3 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: I was once in Paris on Bastille Day. There was a lot of singing, boozing, throwing firecrackers and dancing in the streets. Even the waiters were more tolerant. 🙂 A good time. I hope you have a wonderful time. So much to see there from 1000 year old buildings to the most modern art. Aww, thank you for sharing. My last hospice caregiving account is taking me there for 2 weeks as a thank you for caring for her parents who died 6 months apart from each other, I am over the moon. 🙏🏼 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 3 Author #53 Share Posted August 3 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gospel_of_Mark They thought Jesus was a gay guy. Some scholars suggest that the letter implies that Jesus was involved in homosexual activity, although this interpretation is contested. Edited August 3 by docyabut2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 3 Author #54 Share Posted August 3 (edited) They got it from the Clement's letter Clément's was properly gay to:( Edited August 3 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 3 #55 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, docyabut2 said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gospel_of_Mark They thought Jesus was a gay guy. Some scholars suggest that the letter implies that Jesus was involved in homosexual activity, although this interpretation is contested. Thats’ a whole of of rubbish theology going on there, with a BEAUTIFUL load of irony from the fact that by trying to deny the value of Mary in the Jesus movement they end up making Jesus the one thing worse than a woman in their twisted ideology - gay! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted August 4 #56 Share Posted August 4 10 hours ago, Kenemet said: Drag is a fine old European tradition and nobody there is shocked or offended by it. In England (and possibly the entire UK) there's a tradition of doing silly Christmas plays where men dress up as women and vice-versa. If you watch a lot of British tv (we love BritBox), it's a very common thing. And yes, Europe is a lot more liberal about sexual matters. So, it fits completely. Is "Drag" also from ancient Greece? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted August 4 #57 Share Posted August 4 13 hours ago, DieChecker said: Is "Drag" also from ancient Greece? Just curious. Yup. Men played women's roles back then. Women couldn't do much of anything in society. Male drag performers showed up at parties, plays, festivals. Didn't you take any Greek history? 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 4 #58 Share Posted August 4 22 hours ago, docyabut2 said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gosp 22 hours ago, docyabut2 said: They got it from the Clement's letter Clément's was properly gay to:( el_of_Mark They thought Jesus was a gay guy. Some scholars suggest that the letter implies that Jesus was involved in homosexual activity, although this interpretation is contested. Which is a fraud like I said before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 4 #59 Share Posted August 4 2 hours ago, Kenemet said: Yup. Men played women's roles back then. Women couldn't do much of anything in society. Male drag performers showed up at parties, plays, festivals. Didn't you take any Greek history? You can almost hear the mental gears grinding can't you? 😆 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted August 4 #60 Share Posted August 4 8 minutes ago, Setton said: You can almost hear the mental gears grinding can't you? 😆 Now, admittedly, most of my contemporaries (Boomers) are probably not as aware of the fact that drag has been around since the ancient Greeks (and probably before), but I did some extensive reading on Greek society when I was in college because I loved the mythology. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 4 #61 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Kenemet said: Now, admittedly, most of my contemporaries (Boomers) are probably not as aware of the fact that drag has been around since the ancient Greeks (and probably before), but I did some extensive reading on Greek society when I was in college because I loved the mythology. I think that's more a commentary on American education than age. Most people your age hear would either know or be unsurprised at least. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted August 4 #62 Share Posted August 4 Well, our founding fathers were a bunch of men who wore high heels and wigs... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted August 5 #63 Share Posted August 5 9 hours ago, Kenemet said: Yup. Men played women's roles back then. Women couldn't do much of anything in society. Male drag performers showed up at parties, plays, festivals. Didn't you take any Greek history? Not even that far back. Juliet was played by men in Shakespeare's plays. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 5 Author #64 Share Posted August 5 The Gospel of Philip, “The kiss of Jesus to Mary Magdalene” https://www.magdalenesacredjourneys.com/the-gospel-of-philip-jesus-and-mary-magdalene/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 5 #65 Share Posted August 5 (edited) On 8/3/2024 at 4:42 AM, DieChecker said: My not watching is punishment? Id rather say its not supporting the organization producing the event. I can't see how that applies. The hosting country has a few hours to showcase its own artistic interpretation of the country. Athletes train for years and come from all over the world and compete for two weeks. On 8/3/2024 at 4:42 AM, DieChecker said: If you dont go to a movie, because its too violent, are you punishing the actors? Not comparable. The games themselves do not in any way represent the host country. On 8/3/2024 at 4:42 AM, DieChecker said: It could have been in celebration of ancient Greece, but its not hard to smell the politics behind much of the show. I believe I read the guy who produced it admits to having an agenda. No, it was in France. Every country puts their own spin on the ceremony. It's part of being the host. We won't be illustrating Greece in eight years. It will be an Australian theme. No politics involved whatsoever. Very woke of you. Edited August 6 by psyche101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 6 #66 Share Posted August 6 4 hours ago, psyche101 said: I can't see how that applies. The hosting country has a few hours to showcase its own artistic interpretation of the country. Athletes train for years and come from all over the world and compete for two weeks. Not comparable. The games themselves do not in any way represent the host country. No, it was in France. Every country puts their own spin on the ceremony. It's part of being the host. We won't be illustrating Greece in eight years. It will be an Australian theme. No politics involved whatsoever. Very woke of you. I fervently hope that we won’t even be hosting it in 8 years and either Miles or Chrisafuli pull a “Dan Andrews” on the whole sorry affair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 6 #67 Share Posted August 6 30 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: I fervently hope that we won’t even be hosting it in 8 years and either Miles or Chrisafuli pull a “Dan Andrews” on the whole sorry affair. I'd say it's too late to back out. Construction is underway in many areas. I'll be surprised if it doesn't go ahead. Miles will want that feather in his cap. If he keeps doing things like the fifty cents fares and meeting the public to ask their opinion, he's going to keep this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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