Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #26 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Piney said: @Ajay0 Are you a martial arts or Yoga instructor? Are you saying that knowledge of hatha yoga and martial arts is all that is needed to understand the nature of chi ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #27 Share Posted July 31 29 minutes ago, Piney said: Chi is focus and intention. Nothing psychic about it. Some Asians have issues with acetylsalic acid, including myself and if he combined aspirin with the TCM willow remedy he got a massive dose. Many years ago a brother of mine almost bled to death (stomach) after he took aspirin. Not one in my family ever used it again afterwards. We're not Asians. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #28 Share Posted July 31 Just now, Ajay0 said: Are you saying that knowledge of hatha yoga and martial arts is all that is needed to understand the nature of chi ! I was taught Wing Chun Kung Fu, and the man I learned it from never used the word "qi" or "chi". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #29 Share Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: Are you saying that knowledge of hatha yoga and martial arts is all that is needed to understand the nature of chi ! Stop evading and answer my question. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #30 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I was taught Wing Chun Kung Fu, and the man I learned it from never used the word "qi" or "chi". Raja Yoga in Hinduism deals with the raising and control of prana through pranayama and meditation and other exercises. I was deeply into Raja Yoga at youth. I had chi inputs from a dog and enlightened sages and a reiki master during some critical times in my life when I was quite unhealthy and which enabled my fast recovery, so I know from personal experience that prana/chi deals with energy. In martial arts like Kalaripayattu , in highly advanced stages, there is manipulation of chi involved. I would say this goes in other martial arts in Kung Fu, but at the advanced stages. Only a rare few knows about this , imho. Edited July 31 by Ajay0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #31 Share Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I was taught Wing Chun Kung Fu, and the man I learned it from never used the word "qi" or "chi". I'm Shorin-Ryu and Koto-Ryu. The Japanese version of Shaolin Boxing and it was used but explained as not supernatural. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #32 Share Posted July 31 45 minutes ago, Piney said: Chi is focus and intention. Nothing psychic about it. Focus + intention + consistent action/s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #33 Share Posted July 31 Just now, Ajay0 said: Raja Yoga in Hinduism deals with the raising and control of prana through pranayama and meditation and other exercises. I was deeply into Raja Yoga at youth . In martial arts like Kalaripayattu , in highly advanced stages, there is manipulation of chi involved. I would say this goes in other martial arts in Kung Fu, but at the advanced stages. Only a rare few knows about this , imho. We don't want to read about others. Are you a Guru, Gurukkal or Shidoshi? That's the real question. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #34 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Piney said: We don't want to read about others. Are you a Guru, Gurukkal or Shidoshi? That's the real question. You can check anywhere in the net and see that prana and chi equals vital energy... https://www.geneseo.edu/yoga/prana-and-chi-kung https://www.camdenwholehealth.com/prevention/what-exactly-is-prana-qi-chi-life-force-energy/ https://www.vitaeinternational.com/look-after-your-vital-energy-or-chi/ Edited July 31 by Ajay0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #35 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: I had chi inputs from a dog and enlightened sages and a reiki master during some critical times in my life when I was quite unhealthy and which enabled my fast recovery, so I know from personal experience that prana/chi deals with energy. What made you think your cure had to with qi instead of something else? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #36 Share Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: You can check anywhere in the net and see that prana and chi equals vital energy... https://www.geneseo.edu/yoga/prana-and-chi-kung https://www.camdenwholehealth.com/prevention/what-exactly-is-prana-qi-chi-life-force-energy/ https://www.vitaeinternational.com/look-after-your-vital-energy-or-chi/ Stop evading. Are you a teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #37 Share Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: You can check anywhere in the net and see that prana and chi equals vital energy... https://www.geneseo.edu/yoga/prana-and-chi-kung https://www.camdenwholehealth.com/prevention/what-exactly-is-prana-qi-chi-life-force-energy/ https://www.vitaeinternational.com/look-after-your-vital-energy-or-chi/ Just in case you didn't know: 30 years ago I studied Traditional Chinese Medicine (in my case, only acupuncture) for 2 whole years, and it costed me a fortune. The qi and meridian stuff is highly complicated; you will not easily learn that by reading alone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #38 Share Posted July 31 19 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: Raja Yoga in Hinduism deals with the raising and control of prana through pranayama and meditation and other exercises. I was deeply into Raja Yoga at youth. I had chi inputs from a dog and enlightened sages and a reiki master during some critical times in my life when I was quite unhealthy and which enabled my fast recovery, so I know from personal experience that prana/chi deals with energy. In martial arts like Kalaripayattu , in highly advanced stages, there is manipulation of chi involved. I would say this goes in other martial arts in Kung Fu, but at the advanced stages. Only a rare few knows about this , imho. My sister is a Reiki Master. It's all the power of positive thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #39 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Abramelin said: Just in case you didn't know: 30 years ago I studied Traditional Chinese Medicine (in my case, only acupuncture) for 2 whole years, and it costed me a fortune. The qi and meridian stuff is highly complicated; you will not easily learn that by reading alone. Tell me about it. I had to learn meditation as a autistic tween. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #40 Share Posted July 31 8 minutes ago, Abramelin said: What made you think your cure had to with qi instead of something else? Because there was no medicines involved. I could feel the transmission of vital energy into me which resulted in bliss for some time as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #41 Share Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, Abramelin said: Just in case you didn't know: 30 years ago I studied Traditional Chinese Medicine (in my case, only acupuncture) for 2 whole years, and it costed me a fortune. The qi and meridian stuff is highly complicated; you will not easily learn that by reading alone. It is the practices that you learn from, and I learnt them from associated spiritual masters. Reading enabled me to figure out the mechanics involved in the practices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #42 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Piney said: My sister is a Reiki Master. It's all the power of positive thinking. Lol. I have only one experience with Reiki. My ex - I posted a couple of photos of her in the Rogue's Gallery - once gave me a threatment: I had to sit in front of her with my back towards her. Then she started moving her fingers over my body at a very small distance. It did effect me: I became even hornier than I already was. And she noticed that, and grabbed my crotch. After that we exchanged some qi and bodily fluids... Edited July 31 by Abramelin 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 31 #43 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: Because there was no medicines involved. I could feel the transmission of vital energy into me which resulted in bliss for some time as well. Sounds like an immaculate conception! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #44 Share Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, Piney said: My sister is a Reiki Master. It's all the power of positive thinking. Your knowledge is amateurish. Prana is part of learning in Raja Yoga, Ayurveda, Reki and Pranic healing. There are many systems involved with prana. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #45 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Abramelin said: Lol. I have only one experience with Reiki. My ex - I posted a couple of photos of her in the Rogue's Gallery - once gave me a threatment: I had to sit in front of her with my back towards her. Then she started moving over my body at a very small distance. It did effect me: I became even hornier than I already was. And she noticed that, and grabbed my crotch. After that we exchanged some qi and bodily fluids... She paid out her ass for the full course in Hawaii in the 60s and realized it was bunk years later. Edited July 31 by Piney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #46 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Sounds like an immaculate conception! It was just an energising experience that enabled me to get rid of some issues. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #47 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Ajay0 said: Your knowledge is amateurish. Prana is part of learning in Raja Yoga, Ayurveda, Reki and Pranic healing. There are many systems involved with prana. Your evasion is ridiculous. Are you a teacher? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #48 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: Because there was no medicines involved. I could feel the transmission of vital energy into me which resulted in bliss for some time as well. So you think that several people focussing on you, and all the attention you got, didn't count? Edited July 31 by Abramelin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #49 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: Your knowledge is amateurish. I'll get the shovel. Because you're in some deep sh.. right now. Edited July 31 by XenoFish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #50 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Ajay0 said: It was just an energising experience that enabled me to get rid of some issues. Placebo's have that effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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