Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #51 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Piney said: Your evasion is ridiculous. I would say the same for your knowledge levels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #52 Share Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: Prana is Breathing. Oxygenating the blood has positive benefits, but that's all it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #53 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, Ajay0 said: I would say the same for your knowledge levels. Stop evading. ARE-YOU-A-TEACHER? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #54 Share Posted July 31 @Piney is this another one of those threads where I'll need to westernize eastern concepts again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #55 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 8 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I'll get the shovel. Because you're in some deep sh.. right now. Actually, I am surprised that these guys lack even elementary knowledge, even ignorant of their ignorance, and blocking attempts at a knowledgeable discussion of the same. This is why the forum has not had any proper indepth investigations into truth, though its purpose is said to be the same. Without the truth , it is hard to set the proper course and obviously false courses must have appropriate results. Edited July 31 by Ajay0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #56 Share Posted July 31 Just now, XenoFish said: @Piney is this another one of those threads where I'll need to westernize eastern concepts again? Maybe. I just want to know his certifications considering the amount of insults, he's probably another one that spreads the teachings without putting in the work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #57 Share Posted July 31 Just now, Ajay0 said: Actually, I am surprised that these guys lack even elementary knowledge, even ignorant of their ignorance, and blocking attempts at a knowledgeable discussion of the same. This is why the forum has not had any proper indepth investigations into truth, though its purpose is said to be the same. Without the truth , it is hard to set the proper course and obviously false courses must have inappropriate results. No the real issue is that they do have deep knowledge. You're just unwilling to answer basic questions. There is nothing mystical going on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #58 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Piney said: Maybe. I just want to know his certifications considering the amount of insults, he's probably another one that spreads the teachings without putting in the work. I hope not. I'm a bit rusty. Plus I kinda hate doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted July 31 Author #59 Share Posted July 31 Just now, XenoFish said: No the real issue is that they do have deep knowledge. You're just unwilling to answer basic questions. There is nothing mystical going on. Okey dokey. Need to leave for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #60 Share Posted July 31 Just now, XenoFish said: I hope not. I'm a bit rusty. Plus I kinda hate doing it. No problem. The Japanese concepts you helped me figure out are fully Anglicized. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 31 #61 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Piney said: No problem. The Japanese concepts you helped me figure out are fully Anglicized. I'm glad. Going off of memory, yoga was originally for the warrior caste I think. Basically mind-body exercises. I still hold that the Chakra system wasn't about magical energy nodes but stages of self-mastery. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #62 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I'm glad. Going off of memory, yoga was originally for the warrior caste I think. Basically mind-body exercises. I still hold that the Chakra system wasn't about magical energy nodes but stages of self-mastery. Exactly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #63 Share Posted July 31 7 hours ago, Piney said: Exactly. I have been searching for a book in my library. It was written by a Dutch guy. I took some meditation lessons from him, ages ago. I bought the book before I took the lessons because it showed a picture of a guy with chakras, and it was about some Native American tribe who had similar ideas about chakras. Can't find the goddamn book. Just wait... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #64 Share Posted July 31 13 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I have been searching for a book in my library. It was written by a Dutch guy. I took some meditation lessons from him, ages ago. I bought the book before I took the lessons because it showed a picture of a guy with chakras, and it was about some Native American tribe who had similar ideas about chakras. Can't find the goddamn book. Just wait... That's interesting, because neither the Lakota nor the Algonquians have such a concept but another tribe might. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #65 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, Piney said: That's interesting, because neither the Lakota nor the Algonquians have such a concept but another tribe might. I fear - but not sure - I lent it to somebody. Ex-Yugoslavs come to mind. There was one who was an avid reader and hr visited me often. He read books in English and Dutch. But I will search for it again later. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #66 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I fear - but not sure - I lent it to somebody. Ex-Yugoslavs come to mind. There was one who was an avid reader and hr visited me often. He read books in English and Dutch. But I will search for it again later. Found it! It's called "Sjamanisme - het genezende evenwicht" (Shamanism - the healing equilibrium) by Robert Hartzema. According to him it were the Cheyennes. Edited July 31 by Abramelin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 31 #67 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, Abramelin said: Found it! It's called "Sjamanisme - het genezende evenwicht" (Shamanism - the healing equilibrium) by Robert Hartzema. According to him it were the Cheyennes. That’s very interesting can you go into a little more detail. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #68 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: That’s very interesting can you go into a little more detail. Gods! You dò know it's past 11 PM here? Ànd my state of being at that time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 31 #69 Share Posted July 31 Just now, Abramelin said: Gods! You dò know it's past 11 PM here? Ànd my state of being at that time? It’s 6:36 Am here, but maybe you could add more after some sleep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #70 Share Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: It’s 6:36 Am here, but maybe you could add more after some sleep. I'm watching a doc on Dutch tv about one of my heroes: Mohammad Ali, aka Cassius Clay. Later. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #71 Share Posted July 31 38 minutes ago, Abramelin said: Found it! It's called "Sjamanisme - het genezende evenwicht" (Shamanism - the healing equilibrium) by Robert Hartzema. According to him it were the Cheyennes. Errr...No, they were Algonquian. Hartzema is a mess. He got himself in trouble with Kazakh and Siberian shaman for that Chakra Shamanism trash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 31 #72 Share Posted July 31 15 minutes ago, Piney said: Errr...No, they were Algonquian. Hartzema is a mess. He got himself in trouble with Kazakh and Siberian shaman for that Chakra Shamanism trash. I think he simply made it up, or recorded what a someone heard of a someone who then told it to another someone. But he didn't appear to me as a liar. Just someone who got off track. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 31 #73 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I think he simply made it up, or recorded what a someone heard of a someone who then told it to another someone. But he didn't appear to me as a liar. Just someone who got off track. There was a YouTube video with a Kazakh Shaman going off about the Chakra Shamanism thing. But I couldn't find it. Nothing else online. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 31 #74 Share Posted July 31 45 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I'm watching a doc on Dutch tv about one of my heroes: Mohammad Ali, aka Cassius Clay. Later. 👍 Yea he was great, no one could talk more **** than Mohammad Ali! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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