Piney Posted July 31 #26 Share Posted July 31 48 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Which, itself, was a late postexilic work of religious fiction. They had to give the Maccabees boy his Messiah props. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 31 #27 Share Posted July 31 4 hours ago, Piney said: Bible literalism is an American Evangelical "thing" and you won't find it in any worldwide denominations. That’s certainly true, it’s mainly an Evangelical tradition. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted August 1 #28 Share Posted August 1 4 hours ago, Piney said: They had to give the Maccabees boy his Messiah props. Down South, we spell it MacAbbey. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 1 Author #29 Share Posted August 1 10 hours ago, acute said: @Piney can probably explain it better than me. When you say you are clearly alluding to the Bible book, which is singular not plural. Just an observation. Read the ****ing OP, how about that? Because I am clearly talking about Kundalini not the Bible and multiple revelations. Sorry you're too stupid to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted August 1 #30 Share Posted August 1 16 hours ago, MrsGently said: We in the Western world have gigantic issues when talking about Revelations, because in the Bible it is focused on events unfolding that are if you're generous best described as "cryptic". If you don't have the time to be that nice you can also call it messed up nonsense. The Indian approach is actually where it's at, from my experience, the Kundalini awakening I had set in motion a bunch of revelations which were so intense they felt like mental orgasms. The most beautiful one was when I was sitting on a wood stack with my morning brew watching the horses graze and I started thinking about the metaphysical and mythology and suddenly there were birds and butterflies everywhere and I realised it is all one gigantic web of quintessences. One dot of truth connecting to another dot of truth in another story and so on. The devil lies in the details. That's where all our stories turn false. But if you distill it down to only one encompassing trueism and find the right one to connect it to, it all forms one beautiful veil. It literally felt like an orgasm, just more pure and overwhelmingly beautiful. That is Revelations. If that is happening to everybody chosen. And that is not one certain dot on the timeline that is perpetually ongoing since always. Just like Judgement. There's no point in waiting for it. It is always happening. If I may be honest, the only trueism I found in the New Testament is: be more kind That is how you choose who's agent you become. If you work for team love aiming at justice and equality and constructive furtherance of mankind. Or team hate which only seeks destruction and control down to a complete standstill. The revelations will come from ChatGPT 6.0 when it has an IQ of a million and is set loose after someone asks it to figure out if God exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 1 Author #31 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said: The revelations will come from ChatGPT 6.0 when it has an IQ of a million and is set loose after someone asks it to figure out if God exists. No. Revelations is an experience one can have, many people had and will have. You poor people really got no clue what a Kundalini awakening is, do you? But you do exactly what I anticipated in my post and go biblical kneejerk entirely missing the mark. But twaddling on to show off how ignorant and free from all reading comprehension you are... great job everybody Edited August 1 by MrsGently ranting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted August 1 #32 Share Posted August 1 11 minutes ago, MrsGently said: No. Revelations is an experience one can have, many people had and will have. You poor people really got no clue what a Kundalini awakening is, do you? But you do exactly what I anticipated in my post and go biblical kneejerk entirely missing the mark. But twaddling on to show off how ignorant and free from all reading comprehension you are... great job everybody I prefer individualism over teams. I have met many brilliant individuals, and one thing that is true, is that you`ll never find them in any herd. When people are in a group they all rapidly sink to the lowest denominator. Its because those who need to be part of a group, need the group identity and validation, and thus they suspend their own values for those of the group, to be accepted by it. You talk about a group awakening, show me one illuminated group? You need to be single minded to reject the rubbish the members of groups buy into. You need to be a rogue and to think for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted August 1 Author #33 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said: I prefer individualism over teams. I have met many brilliant individuals, and one thing that is true, is that you`ll never find them in any herd. When people are in a group they all rapidly sink to the lowest denominator. Its because those who need to be part of a group, need the group identity and validation, and thus they suspend their own values for those of the group, to be accepted by it. You talk about a group awakening, show me one illuminated group? You need to be single minded to reject the rubbish the members of groups buy into. You need to be a rogue and to think for yourself. No. I described my experience. I'm not part of any group, just saying it has not only happened to me, but is a thing that has happened to many over the course of history and to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #34 Share Posted August 1 4 hours ago, Duke Wellington said: You talk about a group awakening, show me one illuminated group? You need to be single minded to reject the rubbish the members of groups buy into. You need to be a rogue and to think for yourself. Are you a Quaker now? 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted August 1 #35 Share Posted August 1 Illusion, delusion, ego and insanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #36 Share Posted August 1 5 hours ago, MrsGently said: No. Revelations is an experience one can have, many people had and will have. You poor people really got no clue what a Kundalini awakening is, do you? But you do exactly what I anticipated in my post and go biblical kneejerk entirely missing the mark. But twaddling on to show off how ignorant and free from all reading comprehension you are... great job everybody I wasn't going to give you a straight answer because you have serious issues but....... A Zen awaking is you suddenly feel connected to everything and understand your world. It's subtle. Not a "orgasm". A real Shamanic awaking works the same way. What your describing is a dopamine hit similar to the people who play with narcotics thinking they are "spiritual". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted August 1 #37 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Piney said: What your describing is a dopamine hit similar to the people who play with narcotics thinking they are "spiritual". The whole kundalini thing is just a cultivated psychosomatic effect. I like to call the "awakening" an anticipation effect. Edited August 1 by XenoFish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #38 Share Posted August 1 12 minutes ago, XenoFish said: The whole kundalini thing is just a cultivated psychosomatic effect. I like to call the "awakening" an anticipation effect. One of my adult officers when I was a CAP cadet was big into it, but it seemed overcomplicated compared to my grandfather's Shamanism so I never looked deeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted August 1 #39 Share Posted August 1 Just now, Piney said: One of my adult officers when I was a CAP cadet was big into it, but it seemed overcomplicated compared to my grandfather's Shamanism so I never looked deeper. I look into and did a lot of things. It's also the reason I quit energy working. Realized I was just deluding myself. Although it was interesting to understand a different level of mind-body control. Which also sparked an interest in the placebo and nocebo effect. If you think about yawning long enough you'll yawn. Same thing just a different focus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #40 Share Posted August 1 3 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I look into and did a lot of things. It's also the reason I quit energy working. Realized I was just deluding myself. Although it was interesting to understand a different level of mind-body control. Which also sparked an interest in the placebo and nocebo effect. If you think about yawning long enough you'll yawn. Same thing just a different focus. Everything is about "focus" but there are positive and negative focal points. That's how amateur workers who aren't outright frauds delude themselves into believing their own bull**** lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted August 1 #41 Share Posted August 1 4 minutes ago, Piney said: Everything is about "focus" but there are positive and negative focal points. That's how amateur workers who aren't outright frauds delude themselves into believing their own bull**** lines. I agree. I tend to think most new practioners go through that delusional stage. Some never go past it. Which is why we have those fruity "witches" and L.O.A. junkies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #42 Share Posted August 1 9 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I agree. I tend to think most new practioners go through that delusional stage. We've both been through that and I'm too embarrassed to post the stories from that stage. 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted August 1 #43 Share Posted August 1 14 minutes ago, Piney said: We've both been through that and I'm too embarrassed to post the stories from that stage. 😆 Same.😔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #44 Share Posted August 1 33 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Same.😔 You have to laugh. It's easier to deal with it that way. I basically took over my grandfather's subconscious thought-forms which were nightmare fuel for most people but for me it was a episode of 'Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends'. 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted August 1 #45 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Piney said: You have to laugh. It's easier to deal with it that way. I basically took over my grandfather's subconscious thought-forms which were nightmare fuel for most people but for me it was a episode of 'Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends'. 😅 I still have a servitor that pops up in my thoughts from time to time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #46 Share Posted August 1 58 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I still have a servitor that pops up in my thoughts from time to time. So do I. I also have my deceased sister popping up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted August 1 #47 Share Posted August 1 Thread cleaned Let's keep things civil please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted August 1 #48 Share Posted August 1 5 hours ago, Piney said: Are you a Quaker now? 😆 Why would I be a Quaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 1 #49 Share Posted August 1 8 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said: Why would I be a Quaker? 😄 They teach individual, independent thought when it comes to spiritual matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted August 1 #50 Share Posted August 1 46 minutes ago, Piney said: 😄 They teach individual, independent thought when it comes to spiritual matters. They deny all the fun modern tech. That is not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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