papageorge1 Posted August 14 #26 Share Posted August 14 4 minutes ago, Piney said: Your paper link doesn't work. And it's called a Base 12 system which originated with knuckle bone counting in Africa and isn't more advanced than Base 10. Not sure why the link doesn't work for you (it does for me) but here's the Abstract: Crop formations consist of geometrically organized regions ranging from 2 to 80 m diameter, in which the plants (primarily grain crops) are flattened in a horizontal position. Plants from crop formations display anatomical alterations which cannot be accounted for by assuming the formations are hoaxes. Near the soil surface the curved stems often form complex swirls with 'vortex' type patterns. In the present paper, evidence is presented which indicates that structural and cellular alterations take place in plants exposed within the confines of the 'circle' type formations, differences which were determined to be statistically significant when compared with control plants taken outside the formations. These transformations were manifested at the macroscopic-level as abnormal nodal swelling, gross malformations during embryogenesis. and charred epidermal tissue. Significant changes in seed germination and development were found, and at the microscopic level differences were observed in cell wall pit structures. Affected plants also have characteristics suggesting the involvement of transient high temperatures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 14 #27 Share Posted August 14 3 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Not sure why the link doesn't work for you (it does for me) but here's the Abstract: Crop formations consist of geometrically organized regions ranging from 2 to 80 m diameter, in which the plants (primarily grain crops) are flattened in a horizontal position. Plants from crop formations display anatomical alterations which cannot be accounted for by assuming the formations are hoaxes. Near the soil surface the curved stems often form complex swirls with 'vortex' type patterns. In the present paper, evidence is presented which indicates that structural and cellular alterations take place in plants exposed within the confines of the 'circle' type formations, differences which were determined to be statistically significant when compared with control plants taken outside the formations. These transformations were manifested at the macroscopic-level as abnormal nodal swelling, gross malformations during embryogenesis. and charred epidermal tissue. Significant changes in seed germination and development were found, and at the microscopic level differences were observed in cell wall pit structures. Affected plants also have characteristics suggesting the involvement of transient high temperatures. I want the microscope data, authors and the peer review. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted August 14 #28 Share Posted August 14 2 minutes ago, Piney said: I want the microscope data, authors and the peer review. You might ask the foundation But I'm taking it very seriously. Author: Since 1954, biophysicist W.C. Levengood has authored or co-authored a significant number of scientific and technical papers (over 50) on a wide range of subjects including Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Biophysics, Botany, and other subjects that have appeared in some of the most prestigious peer-reviewed, scientific journals including Science and Nature that have also recieved numerous citations in additional peer-reviewed, published studies. W.C. Levengood also holds several patents for inventions and applications related to these fields of study. This page is intended to be an archive for W.C.Levengood's Reports and published papers regarding his work on crop circles, as well as a resource for information about his additional scientific studies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 14 #29 Share Posted August 14 5 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: You might ask the foundation But I'm taking it very seriously. Author: Since 1954, biophysicist W.C. Levengood has authored or co-authored a significant number of scientific and technical papers (over 50) on a wide range of subjects including Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Biophysics, Botany, and other subjects that have appeared in some of the most prestigious peer-reviewed, scientific journals including Science and Nature that have also recieved numerous citations in additional peer-reviewed, published studies. W.C. Levengood also holds several patents for inventions and applications related to these fields of study. This page is intended to be an archive for W.C.Levengood's Reports and published papers regarding his work on crop circles, as well as a resource for information about his additional scientific studies. He has 3 papers, only one citation and holds no patents according to Researchgate. Which means the Foundation is full of ****. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted August 14 #30 Share Posted August 14 19 minutes ago, Piney said: He has 3 papers, only one citation and holds no patents according to Researchgate. Which means the Foundation is full of ****. He sounds qualified to judge crops under a microscope and notice anomalies to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 14 #31 Share Posted August 14 Come on people, Crop Circles are not Alien in origin. They are made by farmers who are not doing well financially, I mean they charge admission to the sites, well maybe not, but anyway there certainly not Alien. I mean has anyone ever seen an Alien making a Crop Circle, and anyway these days there is no suck thing as flying Saucers. They have all traded in the old models for Tic Tacs, Cigars, or Box shaped craft, hell they have even changed the name of them to UAP! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted August 14 #32 Share Posted August 14 11 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Come on people, Crop Circles are not Alien in origin. They are made by farmers who are not doing well financially, I mean they charge admission to the sites, well maybe not, but anyway there certainly not Alien. I mean has anyone ever seen an Alien making a Crop Circle, and anyway these days there is no suck thing as flying Saucers. They have all traded in the old models for Tic Tacs, Cigars, or Box shaped craft, hell they have even changed the name of them to UAP! You’d think after traveling such long distances to get here the aliens would come up with better things to do than to hide, draw doodles in fields, abduct people to anally probe, and mutilate cows. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 14 #33 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, papageorge1 said: He sounds qualified to judge crops under a microscope and notice anomalies to me. The anomalies he detected are soil composition related and he doesn't have a background in botany. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 14 #34 Share Posted August 14 26 minutes ago, Antigonos said: You’d think after traveling such long distances to get here the aliens would come up with better things to do than to hide, draw doodles in fields, abduct people to anally probe, and mutilate cows. When they start anally probing mutilated cows we are in trouble. 😬 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted August 15 #35 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Piney said: The anomalies he detected are soil composition related and he doesn't have a background in botany. Wrong. It doesn’t appear you read the bio and paper abstract above I presented: Or you’re on to the character assassination stage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 15 #36 Share Posted August 15 28 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Wrong. It doesn’t appear you read the bio and paper abstract above I presented: Or you’re on to the character assassination stage Wrong. A biophysicist is not a botanist and I don't have to assassinate his character. With only one citation/mention it's looks like he did that to himself already. Christ! I have about 20 and I'm a piddlin ecological scientist and field researcher without a PhD. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted August 15 #37 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 16 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Come on people, Crop Circles are not Alien in origin. They are made by farmers who are not doing well financially, I mean they charge admission to the sites, well maybe not, but anyway there certainly not Alien. I mean has anyone ever seen an Alien making a Crop Circle, and anyway these days there is no suck thing as flying Saucers. They have all traded in the old models for Tic Tacs, Cigars, or Box shaped craft, hell they have even changed the name of them to UAP! You are right, the farmers don't do well after a crop circle has ruined their crop. I heard that in the olden days I think they got compensation in the UK, at least for the ones near the air force base. That makes me think, if that is true, that the air force was doing some testing of something, maybe fine tuning some microwave weapon. And because of the hoaxers, farmers had to do something, and probably some did create the crop circles, but you have to admit that some of the really elaborate one could not have been done with rope and posts in one night no matter how many people you had to help. The message I referred to earlier is an example of that. Edited August 15 by Desertrat56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 15 #38 Share Posted August 15 On 8/3/2024 at 10:44 AM, WorldMysteries said: Contrary to popular belief, they are not created by extraterrestrial beings i wouldn't say it's a popular belief... most with a brain know they are created by humans.. & yeah, it's a fantastic form of art IMO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coil Posted August 15 #39 Share Posted August 15 18 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Come on people, Crop Circles are not Alien in origin. They are made by farmers who are not doing well financially, I mean they charge admission to the sites, well maybe not, but anyway there certainly not Alien. I mean has anyone ever seen an Alien making a Crop Circle, and anyway these days there is no suck thing as flying Saucers. They have all traded in the old models for Tic Tacs, Cigars, or Box shaped craft, hell they have even changed the name of them to UAP! At first, aliens could have done them, and when there were too many of them, it began to alarm the government, and then people began to join in to show that they did it all with a stick and a rope. And the aliens made them energetically, so magnetic anomalies remained in the fields, which were easily recorded by instruments and people felt sick, the plants were changed energetically and not pressed mechanically. Even the next harvest, twisted fruits grew, the magnetic anomaly was so strong. So people simply discredited the circles on fields and now we do not receive important messages and cannot distinguish where the real ones are and where the fake ones are. When the coronavirus was raging, a sign of a syringe appeared that stuck into a cell... a hint that the coronavirus was created artificially. The government doesn’t like aliens, so they try to pass them off as atmospheric anomalies, so there is a cover-up here too. It is in vain to appeal to the government to disclose contacts or accidents with aliens, they will hide everything. Imagine that you can fly to other planets and life there is much better than on earth. People would immediately rush there and our planet would be empty and the entire business based on the sale of goods, services, food would collapse.And there would be strong questions about the political rule of the country. So it is profitable for the government to keep us on the planet and unaware of life on other planets. They will endlessly tell us that they are looking for life on Mars, they will scare us with the next big black hole, the settlement of the Moon or Mars, that’s all they clutter our heads with little useful information. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 15 #40 Share Posted August 15 4 hours ago, Desertrat56 said: You are right, the farmers don't do well after a crop circle has ruined their crop. I heard that in the olden days I think they got compensation in the UK, at least for the ones near the air force base. That makes me think, if that is true, that the air force was doing some testing of something, maybe fine tuning some microwave weapon. And because of the hoaxers, farmers had to do something, and probably some did create the crop circles, but you have to admit that some of the really elaborate one could not have been done with rope and posts in one night no matter how many people you had to help. The message I referred to earlier is an example of that. I agree some of them are certainly very hard to explain! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 15 #41 Share Posted August 15 20 hours ago, Antigonos said: You’d think after traveling such long distances to get here the aliens would come up with better things to do than to hide, draw doodles in fields, abduct people to anally probe, and mutilate cows. Yea, I certainly agree it just makes no sense at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted August 15 #42 Share Posted August 15 20 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Come on people, Crop Circles are not Alien in origin. They are made by farmers who are not doing well financially, I mean they charge admission to the sites, well maybe not, but anyway there certainly not Alien. I mean has anyone ever seen an Alien making a Crop Circle, and anyway these days there is no suck thing as flying Saucers. They have all traded in the old models for Tic Tacs, Cigars, or Box shaped craft, hell they have even changed the name of them to UAP! To be fair, farmers lose money from crop circles and are not to happy about the kids who get away with wrecking their crops. Fortunately, the fad seem to be fading. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 15 #43 Share Posted August 15 27 minutes ago, Essan said: To be fair, farmers lose money from crop circles and are not to happy about the kids who get away with wrecking their crops. Fortunately, the fad seem to be fading. I want to make a crop circle with @acute's Austin Allegro. When it catches fire it would make some cool patterns. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted August 15 #44 Share Posted August 15 13 minutes ago, Piney said: I want to make a crop circle with @acute's Austin Allegro. When it catches fire it would make some cool patterns. I never know whether it's on fire or not! It's already flame coloured. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 15 #45 Share Posted August 15 39 minutes ago, acute said: I never know whether it's on fire or not! It's already flame coloured. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 15 #46 Share Posted August 15 49 minutes ago, acute said: I never know whether it's on fire or not! It's already flame coloured. As a afterthought....It looks like someone put my Ford RS 2600 in a garbage compactor. Then hammered 2 extra doors on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted August 15 #47 Share Posted August 15 9 minutes ago, Piney said: As a afterthought....It looks like someone put my Ford RS 2600 in a garbage compactor. Then hammered 2 extra doors on it. That's exactly how the Weslake Capri was made! Thrown together in Dagenham, crushed in Doncaster, doors glued on at Halewood, then flown to Luxembourg for the coat-hanger car aerial to be fitted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 15 #48 Share Posted August 15 9 minutes ago, acute said: That's exactly how the Weslake Capri was made! Thrown together in Dagenham, crushed in Doncaster, doors glued on at Halewood, then flown to Luxembourg for the coat-hanger car aerial to be fitted. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jesus Christ that's hilariously true!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 15 #49 Share Posted August 15 15 minutes ago, acute said: That's exactly how the Weslake Capri was made! Thrown together in Dagenham, crushed in Doncaster, doors glued on at Halewood, then flown to Luxembourg for the coat-hanger car aerial to be fitted. @Sherapy Put up the pictures of my Explorer Interceptor and it's motor. I don't need to worry now because it's stripped of all my first responder accessories. Acute loves mocking German cop cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted August 16 #50 Share Posted August 16 (edited) On 8/15/2024 at 7:39 AM, Piney said: I want the microscope data, authors and the peer review. Me too. When will that be available, papa? Can you think why it wasn't an appendix to the paper? And also why the paper appears in a little known plant journal, in which there is very unlikely to be any peer reviewers with the ability or equipment to check the claims made? And also why the author did not mention any ET theory.. Why the word alien or any synonym does not appear in it? I also note that this paper dates back to 1994 and contains the strong recommendation that further studies are required, and "considerable in-depth investigation" before even a hypothesis can be "accepted or discarded". Where are the ongoing investigations, and where is the verification of this? Papa, do you only read the bits that you vaguely understand and conveniently ignore that which refutes you? Edited August 16 by ChrLzs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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