UM-Bot Posted August 3 #1 Share Posted August 3 A nova explosion far out in space will create the appearance of a new star in the night sky for a brief time. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/379440/a-new-guest-star-is-going-to-appear-in-the-sky-later-on-this-year 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted August 3 #2 Share Posted August 3 There is a sky map in the link below with a big enough scale to show surrounding constellations, Big Dipper/ Ursa Major, and use it to star hop and locate Corona Borealis. Use the two stars in the middle of the big dipper handle and project an imaginary line west or left by one full Big dipper constellation width. That will be close to Corona, slightly to the east and north. The semicircle of stars that is Corona should then be easy to pick out, cloud permitting. I will try and get a before image for comparison, anybody else with a camera feel free to do the same 👍 A shot including Ursa Major and Corona, west to east, will probably be best for showing the nova in context. https://skyandtelescope.org/observing/variable-star-r-coronae-borealis-pluto-occults-star/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted August 4 #3 Share Posted August 4 A similar event was likely the star of Bethlehem that Biblically speaking had marked the birth of Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 4 #4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: A similar event was likely the star of Bethlehem that Biblically speaking had marked the birth of Jesus It's highly unlikely that it was a nova. If you take the biblical story literally then it says that the "star" moved through the sky. A nova wouldn't do that, it would remain fixed in relation to the other stars. If you don't take the biblical story literally then there is no reason to believe the "star" existed at all. Anyway the religion board is probably a better place to debate the star of Bethlehem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 4 #5 Share Posted August 4 6 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: A similar event was likely the star of Bethlehem that Biblically speaking had marked the birth of Jesus The three Magi were added later as a insult to the Jewish religion. So there was never any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted August 5 #6 Share Posted August 5 22 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said: It's highly unlikely that it was a nova. If you take the biblical story literally then it says that the "star" moved through the sky. A nova wouldn't do that, it would remain fixed in relation to the other stars. If you don't take the biblical story literally then there is no reason to believe the "star" existed at all. Anyway the religion board is probably a better place to debate the star of Bethlehem. The Bible is much more than just a religious book, and it would be a mistake to view it as such in a limited sense. Many of the historical events and astronomical details described, though sometimes simplified and reflective of the knowledge of the time, are based on real events and accurate historical accounts. Halley's Comet was for example visible around 12-11 BCE, has also been suggested and a strong candidate to have been also viewed as the star of Betlehem visible at the time of Jesus's birth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 5 #7 Share Posted August 5 4 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: Halley's Comet was for example visible around 12-11 BCE, has also been suggested and a strong candidate to have been also viewed as the star of Betlehem visible at the time of Jesus's birth Which rather makes my point. Already you have given two different and contradictory suggestions as to what the star of Bethlehem was, conjunctions involving Jupiter have also been suggested. You can not claim the star of Bethlehem is a historical fact whilst providing contradictory explanations for what it, "might have been", whilst providing no external evidence that it existed at all. The reality is that no known natural events fit the biblical description of the star. The entire debate is illogical. Either the bible is false, in which case there was no star of Bethlehem or the bible is true in which case the star of Bethlehem was an act of God and does not have to fit any kind of known natural phenomenon. . Either way trying to tie it into a natural event is a fools errand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 5 #8 Share Posted August 5 Incidentally most experts calculate Christ's birth to have been 2-7BCE, ruling out Halley's Comet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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