Popular Post Unusual Tournament Posted August 4 Popular Post #1 Share Posted August 4 Sorry guys, you all know me as evenly based in this presidential race so I feel it’s my duty to ask a few questions and explain a few truisms. First, we had 4 years of Trump ‘making America great again’ and let me tell you all - I hardly noticed any difference. In fact, none at all. Is this experience unique to me or have you’all had a different euphoric experience … Secondly, I think all Trump supporters have been brainwashed into believing things had changed and will change again. If things did change under Trump then why didn’t they endure?😅 instead, we have this temporary maga that only seems to work for America when Trump is in power. Thirdly, the presidency is just a figurehead position and not power absolute, so how can Trump make America great again without the senate and House of Representatives? Fourthly, does maga signal the cognitive decline of America? Thank you for taking the time to read this 3 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unusual Tournament Posted August 4 Author #3 Share Posted August 4 36 minutes ago, acidhead said: 🤣 Meanwhile the reality is Trump support is receding and he’s on his way to a big loss come November 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alchopwn Posted August 4 Popular Post #4 Share Posted August 4 What Americans like about Donald Trump is that he gives them permission to be their worst selves. It really isn't more complicated than that. 8 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 4 Author #5 Share Posted August 4 I think people are starting to see the MAGA lie 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted August 4 #6 Share Posted August 4 7 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Sorry guys, you all know me as evenly based in this presidential race so I feel it’s my duty to ask a few questions and explain a few truisms. First, we had 4 years of Trump ‘making America great again’ and let me tell you all - I hardly noticed any difference. In fact, none at all. Is this experience unique to me or have you’all had a different euphoric experience … Not much did change, especially spending. Looking back the best things about his 4 years were no wars, lower taxes, and basically a pause of the globalists agenda. 7 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Secondly, I think all Trump supporters have been brainwashed into believing things had changed and will change again. If things did change under Trump then why didn’t they endure?😅 instead, we have this temporary maga that only seems to work for America when Trump is in power. Well sure. First thing Dems did was undo everything he did. Including stopping the southern border invasion. Also peace and diplomacy that Trump lived by was replaced by war mongering and hostility. If all Trump ever really accomplishes is stopping WW3, then it was more than worth it. Speaking of brain washed. We are seeing the death of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. And a very possible WW3 scenario. None of you seem to notice or care. That’s cause if msm isn’t feeding it to you, it isn’t happening. 7 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Thirdly, the presidency is just a figurehead position and not power absolute, so how can Trump make America great again without the senate and House of Representatives? He can’t. We have to come out strong for the entire party. 7 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Fourthly, does maga signal the cognitive decline of America? Thank you for taking the time to read this No. Little girls being forced to see men’s junk in locker rooms does though. Kids having access to pornographic literature in elementary schools does. Allowing a full on invasion of the southern border does. Destroying our currencies roll on the world stage does. Having our top educational institutions sponsored by communist China does. Forcing a proxy war with Ukraine and Russia does. Need I go on? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 4 #7 Share Posted August 4 (edited) It’s a bit of a mystery to me how everything could go from being so extremely bad …to the Bestest, Greatest EVER in history for four years, to immediately becoming the WORST ever..ever! for the next four years.. but will, upon big D’s next ascension to the throne, immediately turn around..becoming better than EVER!!! again. Much of it on DAY ONE, or sooner! It doesn’t work that way. GAS prices plunged along with the rest of the economy with the nationwide ,COVID response catastrophe, SHUT DOWN. Great job D. ,but thanks for the multi trillion$ bail out for that . I will say though, trump is right about government spending and DEBT. being out of control. Who Knew!?? Edited August 4 by lightly 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted August 4 #8 Share Posted August 4 16 minutes ago, lightly said: It’s a bit of a mystery to me how everything could go from being so extremely bad …to the Bestest, Greatest EVER in history for four years, to immediately becoming the WORST ever..ever! for the next four years.. but will, upon big D’s next ascension to the throne, immediately turn around..becoming better than EVER!!! again. Much of it on DAY ONE, or sooner! It doesn’t work that way. GAS prices plunged along with the rest of the economy with the nationwide ,COVID response catastrophe, SHUT DOWN. Great job D. ,but thanks for the multi trillion$ bail out for that . I will say though, trump is right about government spending and DEBT. being out of control. Who Knew!?? Open borders, wars, higher taxes, shoving trans ideology down everyone’s throats will do that. It wasn’t the best ever under Trump, but it was very much better than what we have now. And now our other choice is drunk soccer mom Harris. And the media making sure she is unburdened by her past. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 4 #9 Share Posted August 4 What’s so great about maga? the hats. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 4 #10 Share Posted August 4 8 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Sorry guys, you all know me as evenly based in this presidential race so I feel it’s my duty to ask a few questions and explain a few truisms. First, we had 4 years of Trump ‘making America great again’ and let me tell you all - I hardly noticed any difference. In fact, none at all. Is this experience unique to me or have you’all had a different euphoric experience … Secondly, I think all Trump supporters have been brainwashed into believing things had changed and will change again. If things did change under Trump then why didn’t they endure?😅 instead, we have this temporary maga that only seems to work for America when Trump is in power. Thirdly, the presidency is just a figurehead position and not power absolute, so how can Trump make America great again without the senate and House of Representatives? Fourthly, does maga signal the cognitive decline of America? Thank you for taking the time to read this Shouldn't you also ask yourself = What is so great about the Democrats"? Letting males compete against females is a priority of theirs. They dislike females that much apparently. Allowing the southern border to be open for all and the drugs they bring. Allowing crime to rise out of control. I agree that we didn't see much of a difference with Trump as President. It wasn't the horrible time the Democrats try to tell you it was. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted August 4 #11 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 9 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Sorry guys, you all know me as evenly based in this presidential race so I feel it’s my duty to ask a few questions and explain a few truisms. First, we had 4 years of Trump ‘making America great again’ and let me tell you all - I hardly noticed any difference. In fact, none at all. Is this experience unique to me or have you’all had a different euphoric experience … Secondly, I think all Trump supporters have been brainwashed into believing things had changed and will change again. If things did change under Trump then why didn’t they endure?😅 instead, we have this temporary maga that only seems to work for America when Trump is in power. Thirdly, the presidency is just a figurehead position and not power absolute, so how can Trump make America great again without the senate and House of Representatives? Fourthly, does maga signal the cognitive decline of America? Thank you for taking the time to read this Some things did change when the florida man was president. He got to be in office during the covid pandemic and that changed so much that we are still dealing with. He can't be blamed or given credit for it though. I agree with your second point. There has been media brainwashing going on since I became an adult (the Nixon impeachment is a good example, the democratic convention before that is another). Before I was born someone did a radio play of one of HG Wells stories and people did not realize it was a play, they fled large cities in numbers that caused a lot of greif for everyone. It was probably what gave the corporations the idea of how powerful advertising is and politicians the idea that they could spread emotionally charged nonsense to get people to react and be easily controlled. But Machiavelli wrote a book on it way back in the 1460's. He probably based it on the very clever thing Constantine did with his new version of christianity. Fear and self loathing go a long way as tools of manipulation. I have been pointing your third point out often in the last few years on this website and in conversaations with my kids. It matters who is in congress and the senate, it barely matters who is president, that person is our representative to the rest of the world and the florida man was an embarrasment in that respect. Your fourth point brings up something for me that yes it can be a sign of our decline, but it also could be the catalyst to get people out of their complacency to actually think about what's going on and decide whether they can live with it or not. I liken the florida man and his term as president as the spoon stirring up all the crap at the bottom of the pot that we have ignored for so long. ** as for never or rarely using his name, I feel there is a power that I won't participate in to give that person more energy. The less we talk about him the better off we are. Edited August 4 by Desertrat56 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted August 4 #12 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, lightly said: It’s a bit of a mystery to me how everything could go from being so extremely bad …to the Bestest, Greatest EVER in history for four years, to immediately becoming the WORST ever..ever! for the next four years.. but will, upon big D’s next ascension to the throne, immediately turn around..becoming better than EVER!!! again. Much of it on DAY ONE, or sooner! It doesn’t work that way. GAS prices plunged along with the rest of the economy with the nationwide ,COVID response catastrophe, SHUT DOWN. Great job D. ,but thanks for the multi trillion$ bail out for that . I will say though, trump is right about government spending and DEBT. being out of control. Who Knew!?? Big D did not have anytthing to do with that bailout, it was congress. That is what irks me is that the president always gets the blame and the praise for everything congress does or doesn't do. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted August 4 #13 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: Open borders, wars, higher taxes, shoving trans ideology down everyone’s throats will do that. It wasn’t the best ever under Trump, but it was very much better than what we have now. And now our other choice is drunk soccer mom Harris. And the media making sure she is unburdened by her past. There is no open borders , Biden admin has deported more than Trump ever has. I agree with the trans crap , i mean it's one thing if people want to be what they want to be , but they make too big a deal about it , and this stuff does not belong in schools , especially kindergardens or middle schools. I think originally , like title IX was mostly to protect from discrimination , i'm not sure how it came down to all these books and other crap, but it got out of hand it seems. And it's ridiculous to me that there is competing in sports with trans and women , it should not be allowed IMO , and shouldn't even be a thing. All the politicians seem to have marks on their past in some form or another. I don't see it as the US forced a proxy war in Ukraine , bottom line is , Putin invaded , so Ukraine and Europe and many others are going , " no way" , it's not right , you can't just waltz in here , slaughter our people and take what you want. Edited August 4 by Razman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted August 4 #14 Share Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, Razman said: Biden admin has deported more than Trump ever has. Of course he's deported more than Trump. He let in at least 10,000 times more than Trump. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted August 4 #15 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Will Due said: Of course he's deported more than Trump. He let in at least 10,000 times more than Trump. I get it , but the idea is that , it is not an open border per se, like the media has made it out to be. The Biden admin tried to pass a bipartisan bill on the border to tighten it further , but the Repubs killed it. Edited August 4 by Razman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted August 4 #16 Share Posted August 4 21 minutes ago, Razman said: I get it , but the idea is that , it is not an open border per se, like the media has made it out to be. The Biden admin tried to pass a bipartisan bill on the border to tighten it further , but the Repubs killed it. The bill was junk and didn't actually close border. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted August 4 #17 Share Posted August 4 20 minutes ago, Edumakated said: The bill was junk and didn't actually close border. No , but it was able to tighten it up for a start , they could have negotiated on it , but the Repubs had no interest in it , because Trump had no interest in it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted August 4 #18 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Razman said: I agree with the trans crap , i mean it's one thing if people want to be what they want to be , but they make too big a deal about it , But the president had nothing to do with that, it is a different kind of divisive war on intelligence and critical thinking. More emotional drivel from extremists, it serves someone, but who is the question? It definitely does not serve the trans people as it makes them target of hate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted August 4 #19 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Razman said: No , but it was able to tighten it up for a start , they could have negotiated on it , but the Repubs had no interest in it , because Trump had no interest in it. Living near the southern border (which is incorrectly the focus of illegal immigration) I can tell you that we have more border checks now than when Biden first took office, in fact all the border checks were closed for a while and it had nothing to do with Biden. Some of the border checks have been moved, some have been beefed up, all now have cameras that record everyone who drives into the border check (you can't pass it up, you are forced to go through). All the lies, innuendo and misconceptions about the southern border are tiresome. Anyone who is concerned about it that lives further east or north should plan a vacation to drive Highway 10 to the west coast and back. Then you can have a clue about what you are talking about. Every state has a different version of the "security" at the border. Coyote's can still get people into the country, it is a horrible business and I think it goes on in europe and the UK as well. Different transport maybe, but often people pay to get to a different country and when they get their they are held hostage, made slaves, or have to pay more money to get out of the warehouses, trucks and ships that they were transported in. Sometimes tractor trailers full of people are abandoned and the people die. It happens a lot in south western states. So maybe get some perspective and think about what kind of life people are escaping to pay so dearly to get into the U.S. Edited August 4 by Desertrat56 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted August 4 #20 Share Posted August 4 4 hours ago, preacherman76 said: the best things about his 4 years were no wars, HI Preacher There was Afghanistan on his watch, sure he didn't start or end it but it was happening during his term 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted August 4 #21 Share Posted August 4 13 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: But the president had nothing to do with that, it is a different kind of divisive war on intelligence and critical thinking. More emotional drivel from extremists, it serves someone, but who is the question? It definitely does not serve the trans people as it makes them target of hate. Yea , all i really saw was title IX which i believe was more so for discrimination against them . I wasn't sure how all this porn books in schools or LGBTQ stuff in the schools , had anything directly to do with Biden , i mean it might but i don't know. And though the LGBTQ make a huge deal out of themselves , i don't know if thats on Biden either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted August 4 #22 Share Posted August 4 15 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: So maybe get some perspective and think about what kind of life people are escaping to pay so dearly to get into the U.S. I believe that's the job Harris had related to the border, working at the point of those countries where they are coming from , as opposed to anything directly at the border. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 4 Author #23 Share Posted August 4 9 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Well sure. First thing Dems did was undo everything he did. Including stopping the southern border invasion. Also peace and diplomacy that Trump lived by was replaced by war mongering and hostility. If all Trump ever really accomplishes is stopping WW3, then it was more than worth it. Oddly enough Trump did try to coerce Ukraine to investigate his political rivals and only released aid to Ukraine once this was reported to the media. So to answer your accusation that Trump started no wars he certainly wanted to profit politically from them - his inactivity certainly weakened Ukraine and set off Russian ambitions to take Ukraine away from the west. So why would Trump help an American rival by dressing it up as ‘no more wars’ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted August 4 #24 Share Posted August 4 57 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: his inactivity certainly weakened Ukraine and set off Russian ambitions to take Ukraine away from the west. So Trump weakened Ukraine but Biden stopping and delaying military aid before the invasion didn't along with Biden's statements of a minor incursion wouldn't cause a response. June 2021 Biden cancels military aid shipment https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/18/white-house-ukraine-military-lethal-weapons-495169 December 2021 Biden holds back military aid to Ukraine https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna8421 Both were after the build up to the invasion was clearly starting. Biden's comment on a minor incursion would result in a fight over what exactly to do. If what Trump did weakened Ukraine then what Biden did was just as bad if not worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted August 4 #25 Share Posted August 4 9 hours ago, lightly said: What’s so great about maga? the hats. Even the biggest magaT I know said the hats were to stupid looking to wear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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