Putin calls cross-border attack by Ukrainian forces a 'major provocation'

[Grim Reaper 6]

Russian President Vladimir Putin says Kyiv has attempted another "major provocation" by penetrating the border into western Russia.

The Russian defense ministry announced on Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had crossed into and attacked the western Russian region of Kursk.

Russian media quoted authorities as saying five civilians were killed and 24 others injured.

Putin criticized Ukraine in a meeting with members of the government on Wednesday and instructed agencies to provide assistance to people in the region.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240808_06/

 

[jmccr8]

7 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Russian President Vladimir Putin says Kyiv has attempted another "major provocation" by penetrating the border into western Russia.

The Russian defense ministry announced on Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had crossed into and attacked the western Russian region of Kursk.

Russian media quoted authorities as saying five civilians were killed and 24 others injured.

Putin criticized Ukraine in a meeting with members of the government on Wednesday and instructed agencies to provide assistance to people in the region.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240808_06/

 

HI Grim

There has only been one provocation and that was when Putin decided to invade Ukraine. He has made many proclamations during this conflict about wiping out the Ukrainian identity so I don't see a problem in taking the fight to his doorstep. The AFU is not targeting civilians as does Putin and his military command nor are they committing the crimes his men have raping, torturing, murdering and kidnapping so it's not like he is getting back what he condoned and dished out. 

All I can say is 

Go Ukraine

[Essan]

Pot. Kettle. Black. 

[Tatetopa]

What is the goal?  Is Ukraine doing a clearance of Russian bases used to supply the Russian invasion force ?  Or is there more to their strategy?  Now Putin will have to marshal forces to defend his homeland, is that designed to get him to recall some troops from Ukraine?

[jmccr8]

20 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

What is the goal?  Is Ukraine doing a clearance of Russian bases used to supply the Russian invasion force ?  Or is there more to their strategy?  Now Putin will have to marshal forces to defend his homeland, is that designed to get him to recall some troops from Ukraine?

HI Tate

Hard to say considering Ukraine military command is keeping silent. It seems they have cut off both rail and road routes of supply to Kursk and have mined the road. It looks like they found a weak spot and took advantage of it to distract resources from the front line but will have to wait and see what unfolds in the next few days. If the Ukraine do take significant ground Putin may be begging the west for a cease fire just to keep from losing even more ground as he will be looking pretty weak and ineffective to the imaginary people that voted for him. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Grim

There has only been one provocation and that was when Putin decided to invade Ukraine. He has made many proclamations during this conflict about wiping out the Ukrainian identity so I don't see a problem in taking the fight to his doorstep. The AFU is not targeting civilians as does Putin and his military command nor are they committing the crimes his men have raping, torturing, murdering and kidnapping so it's not like he is getting back what he condoned and dished out. 

All I can say is 

Go Ukraine

I agree with you, however there is more to the Ukrainian attack than meets the eye. They don’t have the equipment of military forces to mount a full scale invasion of Russia, so it appears to me that this is a diversion in an attempt to weaken the Russian forces within the Ukraine by forcing Putin to shift forces to the Kursk salient. In the near future I think we will possibly see another attack on Russian forces within the Ukraine, I could be wrong but I expect to see it soon.

JIMHO

[jmccr8]

6 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I agree with you, however there is more to the Ukrainian attack than meets the eye. They don’t have the equipment of military forces to mount a full scale invasion of Russia, so it appears to me that this is a diversion in an attempt to weaken the Russian forces within the Ukraine by forcing Putin to shift forces to the Kursk salient. In the near future I think we will possibly see another attack on Russian forces within the Ukraine, I could be wrong but I expect to see it soon.

JIMHO

HI Grim

Yes it seems from the start as a way to force Russia to take men from the front and disrupt transport of supplies to Russians fighting in Kursk but went better than expected. I didn't think they planned on holding the territory much like the invasions by Russian Patriot fighters earlier. It does make Putin look bad to his own people which is good. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Grim

Yes it seems from the start as a way to force Russia to take men from the front and disrupt transport of supplies to Russians fighting in Kursk but went better than expected. I didn't think they planned on holding the territory much like the invasions by Russian Patriot fighters earlier. It does make Putin look bad to his own people which is good. 

I totally agree, it not only made Putin look like an ass, it also surprised the entire Russian chain of command. It also has proven that the Ukrainian military planners are proficient at choosing targets, and that the Russian forces are spread very thin and weaker than they appear to be.

[bmk1245]

Kudos to Uktainians for kicking russkys where it hurts. I bet, putler planned that.... "SMO goes according the plan"...

[jmccr8]

12 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I totally agree, it not only made Putin look like an ass, it also surprised the entire Russian chain of command. It also has proven that the Ukrainian military planners are proficient at choosing targets, and that the Russian forces are spread very thin and weaker than they appear to be.

HI Grim

Absolutely and a few days ago it was projected that Russia may be able to push forward for a month and a half before they can't anymore. Their intent was to grab as much territory before American elections in the hope that Trump wins and aids in a ceasefire so they could set that as new boundary lines and keep it, now in a couple of days they have lost more than they gained so doesn't look good for Putin. I am pretty sure there will be no ceasefire in the near future so Putin will have to call for inscription to keep going with dwindling resources. Best to drain his pool now then give him any time to rebuild. 

Edited August 8 by jmccr8

[Abramelin]

10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Russian President Vladimir Putin says Kyiv has attempted another "major provocation" by penetrating the border into western Russia.

The Russian defense ministry announced on Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had crossed into and attacked the western Russian region of Kursk.

Russian media quoted authorities as saying five civilians were killed and 24 others injured.

Putin criticized Ukraine in a meeting with members of the government on Wednesday and instructed agencies to provide assistance to people in the region.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240808_06/

 

It's a diversion.

[Piney]

10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Russian President Vladimir Putin says Kyiv has attempted another "major provocation" by penetrating the border into western Russia.

The Russian defense ministry announced on Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had crossed into and attacked the western Russian region of Kursk.

Russian media quoted authorities as saying five civilians were killed and 24 others injured.

Putin criticized Ukraine in a meeting with members of the government on Wednesday and instructed agencies to provide assistance to people in the region.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240808_06/

 

I watched Putty's council meeting. He's a nervous wreck.

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 minutes ago, Piney said:

I watched Putty's council meeting. He's a nervous wreck.

Yea that offense made him crap his pants, it obviously proves that Russian forces are spread very thin. While the Ukrainian military can’t sustain this offensive long term, they have certainly proven a valuable point.

[Grim Reaper 6]

16 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

It's a diversion.

It certainly is a diversion, and it’s designed to force Putin to redeploy his forces which means he will pull troops currently deployed else where in the Ukraine to stop this incursion.

[Grim Reaper 6]

24 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Grim

Absolutely and a few days ago it was projected that Russia may be able to push forward for a month and a half before they can't anymore. Their intent was to grab as much territory before American elections in the hope that Trump wins and aids in a ceasefire so they could set that as new boundary lines and keep it, now in a couple of days they have lost more than they gained so doesn't look good for Putin. I am pretty sure there will be no ceasefire in the near future so Putin will have to call for inscription to keep going with dwindling resources. Best to drain his pool now then give him any time to rebuild. 

I think your right Jay, Putin most likely start a draft to muster the additional forces he needs however that will not help him for sometime.

[jmccr8]

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I think your right Jay, Putin most likely start a draft to muster the additional forces he needs however that will not help him for sometime.

HI Grim

They might get a few weeks of training, Putin doesn't care and just keep pushing men into the fight like he has been doing hoping to deplete Ukrainian supplies with constant waves of manpower. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

5 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Grim

They might get a few weeks of training, Putin doesn't care and just keep pushing men into the fight like he has been doing hoping to deplete Ukrainian supplies with constant waves of manpower. 

That’s certainly possible Jay, they would be more canon fodder thrown into the fire.🔥 

[jmccr8]

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

That’s certainly possible Jay, they would be more canon fodder thrown into the fire.🔥 

HI Grim

Half a million dead or wounded Russians looks like a pattern to me

[Grim Reaper 6]

Just now, jmccr8 said:

HI Grim

Half a million dead or wounded Russians looks like a pattern to me

Maybe Putin is trying to reduce his population and if so he certainly has a successful plan!

[jmccr8]

2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Grim

Half a million dead or wounded Russians looks like a pattern to me

HI Grim

Now would be a good time to take that bridge out if the US said go ahead use what you have

[jmccr8]

2 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Maybe Putin is trying to reduce his population and if so he certainly has a successful plan!

HI Grim

Yup empty the prisons, welfare/poor or other ethnic groups

[jmccr8]

59 minutes ago, bmk1245 said:

Kudos to Uktainians for kicking russkys where it hurts. I bet, putler planned that.... "SMO goes according the plan"...

HI Bmk

Glad to see you are still around

[Grim Reaper 6]

15 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Grim

Yup empty the prisons, welfare/poor or other ethnic groups

I think your certainly right Jay.

[jmccr8]

44 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I think your certainly right Jay.

HI Grim as far as I know they have avoided conscripting ethnic Russians as that would create problems for Putin given how he wastes them fruitlessly

Edited August 8 by jmccr8

[bmk1245]

BTW, there is no proof Ukrainian forces invaded Kursk county, might have been tuaregs from Sahara...

Gotta love Ukrainians (armed forces, intelligence and counter-itelligence), total silence, I mean TOTAL SILENCE, no one had/have a clue...