Labour councillor arrested after urging crowd to cut people’s throats

[pellinore]

A councillor suspended by Labour has been arrested over a speech at a counter demonstration calling for the throats of anti-immigration protesters to be cut.

Dartford councillor Ricky Jones has been suspended by the party over the video, which shows him in the middle of a cheering crowd at a protest in Walthamstow, east London, organised to stop the far-right from targeting asylum centres and the offices of lawyers helping asylum seekers.

In the speech on Wednesday evening, he said: “We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them.”

Labour councillor suspended and arrested after video emerges of man urging crowd to cut people’s throats | The Independent

Edited August 8 by pellinore

[Duke Wellington]

That is incitement to murder.

He needs 10 years in the slammer as some giant anti-immigrants GF.

[Essan]

5 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said:

That is incitement to murder.

He needs 10 years in the slammer as some giant anti-immigrants GF.

And he has been arrested on exactly that charge. 

[beyondism]

34 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said:

That is incitement to murder.

He needs 10 years in the slammer as some giant anti-immigrants GF.

In the interests of impartially, if one of the far-right thugs said this at a rally the entire media would go into meltdown, there would be mass fainting and several new sweeping laws would be passed.

I'm apolitical. 

[diddyman68]

3 hours ago, pellinore said:

A councillor suspended by Labour has been arrested over a speech at a counter demonstration calling for the throats of anti-immigration protesters to be cut.

Dartford councillor Ricky Jones has been suspended by the party over the video, which shows him in the middle of a cheering crowd at a protest in Walthamstow, east London, organised to stop the far-right from targeting asylum centres and the offices of lawyers helping asylum seekers.

In the speech on Wednesday evening, he said: “We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them.”

Labour councillor suspended and arrested after video emerges of man urging crowd to cut people’s throats | The Independent

So it took less than a week to arrest,and jail those rioters.

This moron deserves a lengthy sentence,the idiot even knew he was being filmed as he urged the mob to murder civilians.

So let's wait a week or so and see if we do indeed have a two tier system.

[pellinore]

49 minutes ago, diddyman68 said:

So it took less than a week to arrest,and jail those rioters.

This moron deserves a lengthy sentence,the idiot even knew he was being filmed as he urged the mob to murder civilians.

So let's wait a week or so and see if we do indeed have a two tier system.

Absolutely. I'm not sure we will even have to wait a week, unless his sentence is going to be such a whopper he'll be in a queue for a higher court. Publicly inciting people to kill your fellow countrymen is a little unwise.

[pellinore]

3 hours ago, beyondism said:

In the interests of impartially, if one of the far-right thugs said this at a rally the entire media would go into meltdown, there would be mass fainting and several new sweeping laws would be passed.

I'm apolitical. 

The same rules will apply to anyone inciting direct violence. The people who will probably escape justice are the politicians like Lee Anderson, Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman, who deserve the longest sentences. (Kemi Badenoch has wisely kept her head down).

[glorybebe]

I just read that article.  That is horrible.   Are they really wanting a race war?  Why all this division?  This really saddens me

[Grim Reaper 6]

19 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Absolutely. I'm not sure we will even have to wait a week, unless his sentence is going to be such a whopper he'll be in a queue for a higher court. Publicly inciting people to kill your fellow countrymen is a little unwise.

Yes it is certainly unwise, but it seems they are following play book used by some American politicians!

[Grim Reaper 6]

12 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

I just read that article.  That is horrible.   Are they really wanting a race war?  Why all this division?  This really saddens me

Yea it’s actually pretty insane, it kind of reminds me on the 1930s in Germany.

[pellinore]

23 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

I just read that article.  That is horrible.   Are they really wanting a race war?  Why all this division?  This really saddens me

The division has been stoked by the late Tory Party over the last few years, who are the Party that enabled mass unfettered immigration from all over the world through their polices. Now they don't need to stoke division to stay in power (as they are no longer in power), and we have real politicians in govt, we will see law and order restored soon. Reform UK Ltd (a racist private company masquerading as a political party) will also hopefully be brought to account.

[Destination Unknown]

22 minutes ago, pellinore said:

The division has been stoked by the late Tory Party over the last few years, who are the Party that enabled mass unfettered immigration from all over the world through their polices. Now they don't need to stoke division to stay in power (as they are no longer in power), and we have real politicians in govt, we will see law and order restored soon.

So what are these "real politicians that are now in govt" going to do to control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years then pellinore? 🤷

Edited August 8 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

9 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

So what are these "real politicians that are now in govt" going to do to control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years then pellinore? 🤷

Now that is a good question! The first thing will be to try to repair relations with our fellow Europeans, not an easy task!

[Destination Unknown]

18 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Now that is a good question! The first thing will be to try to repair relations with our fellow Europeans, not an easy task!

Yes it is a good question. Now here's another good question. How will "repairing relations with our fellow Europeans" somehow control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years then pellinore?

[pellinore]

4 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

Yes it is a good question. Now here's another good question. How will "repairing relations with our fellow Europeans" somehow control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years then pellinore?

I've already posted this so thanks for the opportunity to post it again:

In a nutshell, giving just agriculture as an example and not one of the professions: one of the 4 'freedoms' of the single market (SM) is the free movement of people (FOM). This meant that if a farmer in the UK, say, needed 50 seasonal workers for harvesting, he was free to advertise for staff anywhere in the SM because UK citizens could not do that work (for good reasons, it only paid £1200/month, it required living on site, and it was not a permanent job). It suited the UK and suited the workers (they were earning twice or 3x what they earned in Slovakia, they saved the money and bought a house back home). Many would return year after year.

Professional workers could also take advantage of this: lawyers, engineers, architects, doctors, nurses, etc. As long as they spoke the local lingo their professional qualifications were recognised. UK musicians could tour in the EU without visas and customs checks, and vice versa.

There were restrictions: individual countries could stop this movement if it contravened their own policies, workers had to actually work and not just get a holiday (they would be removed after 3 months) and really it was just to facilitate business. 

Illegal immigration was controlled by the Dublin Agreement- asylum seekers from outside Europe had to seek asylum in the first country they entered. This was never the UK as we were an island to the North of mainland Europe.

Immigration was about 230,000 the year before we did Brexit.

When we did Brexit at the end of 2020, we ended FOM, ended the Dublin Agreement, and introduced an Australian style points-based system. As leaving FOM left hundreds of thousands of job shortages (more than 900,000 overall) in vital industries such as road haulage, healthcare, social care, abattoirs, farming, fish processing, etc we encouraged immigration from all over the world, and to ensure we got the workers (they were travelling thousands of miles, not just 20 miles over the English Channel) we allowed them to bring their families.

Immigration jumped to over 500,000 per year and in 2023 it was 1.2 million. Just imagine that- the UK govt legally allowed over 1 million people to settle in the UK! (The final net figure was 680, 000 as a few hundred thousand left the UK).

To compensate for the 4% hit to the UK economy brought about through Brexit, immigration is estimated to remain at around 500,000 per year until the 2030s.

Brexiters are crazy- it is the only time in history a country has voted to both make itself poorer and increase immigration. 

[Destination Unknown]

11 minutes ago, pellinore said:

I've already posted this so thanks for the opportunity to post it again:

In a nutshell, giving just agriculture as an example and not one of the professions: one of the 4 'freedoms' of the single market (SM) is the free movement of people (FOM). This meant that if a farmer in the UK, say, needed 50 seasonal workers for harvesting, he was free to advertise for staff anywhere in the SM because UK citizens could not do that work (for good reasons, it only paid £1200/month, it required living on site, and it was not a permanent job). It suited the UK and suited the workers (they were earning twice or 3x what they earned in Slovakia, they saved the money and bought a house back home). Many would return year after year.

Professional workers could also take advantage of this: lawyers, engineers, architects, doctors, nurses, etc. As long as they spoke the local lingo their professional qualifications were recognised. UK musicians could tour in the EU without visas and customs checks, and vice versa.

There were restrictions: individual countries could stop this movement if it contravened their own policies, workers had to actually work and not just get a holiday (they would be removed after 3 months) and really it was just to facilitate business. 

Illegal immigration was controlled by the Dublin Agreement- asylum seekers from outside Europe had to seek asylum in the first country they entered. This was never the UK as we were an island to the North of mainland Europe.

Immigration was about 230,000 the year before we did Brexit.

When we did Brexit at the end of 2020, we ended FOM, ended the Dublin Agreement, and introduced an Australian style points-based system. As leaving FOM left hundreds of thousands of job shortages (more than 900,000 overall) in vital industries such as road haulage, healthcare, social care, abattoirs, farming, fish processing, etc we encouraged immigration from all over the world, and to ensure we got the workers (they were travelling thousands of miles, not just 20 miles over the English Channel) we allowed them to bring their families.

Immigration jumped to over 500,000 per year and in 2023 it was 1.2 million. Just imagine that- the UK govt legally allowed over 1 million people to settle in the UK! (The final net figure was 680, 000 as a few hundred thousand left the UK).

To compensate for the 4% hit to the UK economy brought about through Brexit, immigration is estimated to remain at around 500,000 per year until the 2030s.

Brexiters are crazy- it is the only time in history a country has voted to both make itself poorer and increase immigration. 

And I've already debunked every single one of those points in various articles on here over the last few months, including the Dublin Agreement and that 4% hit to our economy nonsense, as you well know, so instead of me debunking all that waffle, yet again, why don't you explain exactly how "repairing relations with our fellow Europeans" will somehow control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years?

Edited August 8 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

8 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

And I've already debunked every single one of those points in various articles on here over the last few months, including the Dublin Agreement and that 4% hit to our economy nonsense, as you well know, so instead of me debunking all that waffle, yet again, why don't you explain exactly how "repairing relations with our fellow Europeans" will somehow control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years?

I'm afraid facts are facts. This graph explains things:

[Destination Unknown]

17 minutes ago, pellinore said:

I'm afraid facts are facts. This graph explains things:

That may well be a fact pellinore, and I've not disputed that, but your beloved EU's fake Parliament has only recently voted in favour of the unelected EU Commission's migration and asylum pact, which introduces a "mandatory migrant relocation quota system", forcing all EU vassals to receive some of the migrants and asyIum seekers arriving at the EU's external borders, meaning that member states will be forced to accept a quota of illegal migrants or face financial penalties of €20,000 for each migrant rejected.

Only Poland, Hungary & Slovakia voted against it, but it was forced through using Qualified Majority Voting (no vetoes).

So I'll ask you once again pellinore, why don't you explain exactly how "repairing relations with our fellow Europeans" will somehow control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years?

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2024/05/14/the-council-adopts-the-eu-s-pact-on-migration-and-asylum/

Edited August 9 by Destination Unknown

[Setton]

10 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

So what are these "real politicians that are now in govt" going to do to control/reverse the mass unfettered immigration from all over the world that the late Tory Party enabled over the last few years then pellinore? 🤷

We've all been through this with you multiple times. You just deny everything.

1. New Border Security Command.

2. Counter terrorism level powers for the BSC.

3. Yes, repairing relations with Europe. If we want France to help stop illegal immigration into the UK, probably more effective if we stop purposely p***ing them off for cheap political points at home.

4. Collaboration with Europe, especially France, to stop illegal migration their end.

[Ell]

I wonder whether you are a sockpuppet of Pellinore, Setton?

[Setton]

30 minutes ago, Ell said:

I wonder whether you are a sockpuppet of Pellinore, Setton?

Yes, I secretly juggle two accounts and risk being banned just so I can vehemently disagree with myself on several issues.

That obviously makes much more sense than the idea two posters could agree on one specific topic.

P.S. I've been around here a lot longer than @pellinore. If anything, he'd be a sockpuppet of me, thank you very much.

Edited August 9 by Setton

[Still Waters]

Suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones has been charged with encouraging violent disorder after comments at a London counter-protest.

Videos appeared online which seem to show Mr Jones, 57, telling a crowd in Walthamstow that far-right demonstrators should have their throats cut.

The Dartford councillor was arrested by the Metropolitan Police on Thursday and was charged on Friday, said the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).

Mr Jones will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Friday afternoon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/credz9gl92yo

[pellinore]

25 minutes ago, Still Waters said:

Suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones has been charged with encouraging violent disorder after comments at a London counter-protest.

So, he'll be sentenced in Crown Court. He'll be going down - 2 years, maybe a bit more. It'll make him engage his brain before he opens his mouth in future.

[MrAnderson]

On 8/8/2024 at 4:09 PM, pellinore said:

A councillor suspended by Labour has been arrested over a speech at a counter demonstration calling for the throats of anti-immigration protesters to be cut.

Dartford councillor Ricky Jones has been suspended by the party over the video, which shows him in the middle of a cheering crowd at a protest in Walthamstow, east London, organised to stop the far-right from targeting asylum centres and the offices of lawyers helping asylum seekers.

In the speech on Wednesday evening, he said: “We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them.”

Labour councillor suspended and arrested after video emerges of man urging crowd to cut people’s throats | The Independent

If this story is true then that's incitement to murder or serious body harm. How idiotic of him to want to deal with the far right the same way some of these guys want to deal with everyone else.

[MrAnderson]

2 hours ago, Still Waters said:

Suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones has been charged with encouraging violent disorder after comments at a London counter-protest.

Videos appeared online which seem to show Mr Jones, 57, telling a crowd in Walthamstow that far-right demonstrators should have their throats cut.

The Dartford councillor was arrested by the Metropolitan Police on Thursday and was charged on Friday, said the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).

Mr Jones will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Friday afternoon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/credz9gl92yo

Not only this is morally wrong and in terms of the laws but he is stupid enough to get recorded...