Essan Posted August 10 #51 Share Posted August 10 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dejarma said: one has to ask the question: why not stay in their own country? Because their own countries are more often than not poverty stricken, rife with violent crime or engaged in civil war, run by corrupt politicians, often imposing archaic religious laws, subject to intolerable extremes of weather and generally not quite as nice a place to live as Britain is. That's the problem with living in paradise - every one else wants to join us! Edited August 10 by Essan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted August 10 #52 Share Posted August 10 I'm not going to compare migrants to cancer. I like migrants. They're decent, hard working people who want to build a better life for themselves and their families. Where this model falls apart is when you start importing migrants who hate your society, your culture, and your people, and set about seeking their destruction. According to statistics gathered by a body no less august than the United Nations, 1 in 4 Muslims is a violent extremist. Perhaps they haven't attacked anybody, but we must always add the caveat...YET. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 10 #53 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Alchopwn said: I'm not going to compare migrants to cancer. I like migrants. They're decent, hard working people who want to build a better life for themselves and their families. Where this model falls apart is when you start importing migrants who hate your society, your culture, and your people, and set about seeking their destruction. Based on the last couple of weeks, there are a lot more people born and bred here who hate our society and culture and set about seeking their destruction than immigrants doing the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted August 10 #54 Share Posted August 10 Suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones has been remanded in custody after he was charged with encouraging violent disorder in connection with comments at a London counter-protest. Mr Jones, 57, appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Friday. BBC reporter Lucy Grey said no indication of a plea was given. The case was adjourned for a pre-trial prepation hearing on 6 September. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/credz9gl92yo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 10 Author #55 Share Posted August 10 4 hours ago, Alchopwn said: I'm not going to compare migrants to cancer. I like migrants. They're decent, hard working people who want to build a better life for themselves and their families. Where this model falls apart is when you start importing migrants who hate your society, your culture, and your people, and set about seeking their destruction. According to statistics gathered by a body no less august than the United Nations, 1 in 4 Muslims is a violent extremist. Perhaps they haven't attacked anybody, but we must always add the caveat...YET. 1 in 4 Muslims is a violent extremist? I don't believe this. Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 10 #56 Share Posted August 10 13 hours ago, Essan said: Because their own countries are more often than not poverty stricken, rife with violent crime or engaged in civil war, run by corrupt politicians, often imposing archaic religious laws, subject to intolerable extremes of weather and generally not quite as nice a place to live as Britain is. The majority 'seem' to be young men by all accounts. These so called men should grow some balls, stay & fight for a better life in their own countries! IMO they are nothing more than weak cowards running away, leaving their loved ones behind to cope! Would British men do that!?= Leaving our loved ones behind & getting a boat to France to get away if it ever come to that in the UK??!! NA!! Just My Opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 10 #57 Share Posted August 10 38 minutes ago, Dejarma said: Would British men do that!?= Leaving our loved ones behind & getting a boat to France to get away if it ever come to that in the UK??!! NA!! Just My Opinion Half the far right posters on this thread are planning to leave the country because they lost an election. Faced with a civil war they'd be halfway to the moon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 10 #58 Share Posted August 10 16 minutes ago, Setton said: Half the far right posters on this thread are planning to leave the country because they lost an election. what are the other half doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 10 #59 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Dejarma said: what are the other half doing? Whinging online or trying to start riots from what I've seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 11 #60 Share Posted August 11 51 minutes ago, Setton said: Whinging online or trying to start riots from what I've seen. Define far right... What is far right in your mind with regards to UK immigration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted August 11 #61 Share Posted August 11 8 hours ago, Setton said: Faced with a civil war they'd be halfway to the moon. Then, logically, for successfull moon flights we need two civil wars. 😎 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 11 #62 Share Posted August 11 8 hours ago, Dejarma said: Define far right... What is far right in your mind with regards to UK immigration? They don't seem to be able to agree a coherent policy position but typical indicators would be scapegoating immigrants for unrelated issues and reneging on our obligations under international law regarding granting asylum. Then we have a couple of extreme right wing posters on here, who think you can't be British if you're not white, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted August 11 #63 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 19 hours ago, pellinore said: 1 in 4 Muslims is a violent extremist? I don't believe this. Do you have a link? Yes, the study was conducted in the 2000s by the United Nations. I'll see if I can dig it up for you. Edited August 11 by Alchopwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 11 #64 Share Posted August 11 47 minutes ago, Setton said: typical indicators would be scapegoating immigrants for unrelated issues are there any related issues in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted August 11 #65 Share Posted August 11 In my opinion the signs point to a heavily stressed society, on the brink of civil war and genocides. There is no doubt in my mind that this imminent crisis has been planned for decades by the various sociopaths who rule us on stage and behind the screens.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 11 #66 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Ell said: In my opinion the signs point to a heavily stressed society, on the brink of civil war and genocides. There is no doubt in my mind that this imminent crisis has been planned for decades by the various sociopaths who rule us on stage and behind the screens.. Hardly the stage for a civil war: a handful of thugs without a brain cell between them who melt away at the first sign of a counter protest. I'm not worried about them as things stand at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 11 #67 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Dejarma said: are there any related issues in your opinion? Yes. There are issues with people exploiting the asylum system for economic migration. The previous government's approach of just turning them out into the community with no follow up did not help. But the answer to that is not just turning away everyone, including genuine refugees, on the basis that there could be some imposters amongst them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 11 #68 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Dejarma said: are there any related issues in your opinion? And of course, not forgetting the impact on dental health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted August 11 #69 Share Posted August 11 (edited) @pellinore wrong thread... Edited August 11 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 11 Author #70 Share Posted August 11 12 hours ago, Alchopwn said: Yes, the study was conducted in the 2000s by the United Nations. I'll see if I can dig it up for you. Well, since it was by the UN, and claims 25% Muslims are violent extremists, it should be easy for you to find. But you won't find it because it is fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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