pellinore Posted August 10 #1 Share Posted August 10 (edited) Reform UK has a difficult juggling act: they have to convince their supporters they are racists, to keep their support, and at the same time pretend to the general public that they aren't racists. Thousands of anti-racism protesters have gathered outside Reform UK’s headquarters with some accusing party leader Nigel Farage of spreading “dangerous rhetoric”. Demonstrators joined Stand up to Racism’s gathering which met outside the party’s headquarters in Victoria, central London, chanting in support of refugees before marching through Whitehall and towards Trafalgar Square to listen to speeches from activists. Organisers said the turnout of about 5,000 people showed the depth of support for refugees and other minority groups targeted in recent disorder, amid fears of further violence this weekend. Samira Ali, who made the closing speech, told the PA news agency: “We feel like we have turned the tide. It’s a testament to our mobilisation that they failed to come out. “They would not have been stopped if it was not for our mobilisation.” Another speaker, Gary McFarlan, 63, told the crowd: “A few days ago, the atmosphere was very different. Lots of people were very scared, worried about coming out on to the streets, thinking, ‘Will I get a half-brick in my head? Will I get kicked in the face by a Nazi?’. We turned it around this week.” Thousands of anti-racism protesters demonstrate outside Reform UK headquarters (msn.com) Edited August 10 by pellinore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Unknown Posted August 10 #2 Share Posted August 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, pellinore said: Reform UK has a difficult juggling act: they have to convince their supporters they are racists, to keep their support, and at the same time pretend to the general public that they aren't racists. Thousands of anti-racism protesters have gathered outside Reform UK’s headquarters with some accusing party leader Nigel Farage of spreading “dangerous rhetoric”. Demonstrators joined Stand up to Racism’s gathering which met outside the party’s headquarters in Victoria, central London, chanting in support of refugees before marching through Whitehall and towards Trafalgar Square to listen to speeches from activists. Organisers said the turnout of about 5,000 people showed the depth of support for refugees and other minority groups targeted in recent disorder, amid fears of further violence this weekend. Samira Ali, who made the closing speech, told the PA news agency: “We feel like we have turned the tide. It’s a testament to our mobilisation that they failed to come out. “They would not have been stopped if it was not for our mobilisation.” Another speaker, Gary McFarlan, 63, told the crowd: “A few days ago, the atmosphere was very different. Lots of people were very scared, worried about coming out on to the streets, thinking, ‘Will I get a half-brick in my head? Will I get kicked in the face by a Nazi?’. We turned it around this week.” Thousands of anti-racism protesters demonstrate outside Reform UK headquarters (msn.com) It's not even their headquarters, it’s a POSTAL ADDRESS.!! You'd think the morons would have known those offices were empty as they'd moved into their new offices a number of years ago. They can’t even turn up to the correct location, so why have they turned up to threaten and intimidate innocent clerical staff, some in their 20s? Are we to expect the organisers of this protest to be arrested and prosecuted for inciting tensions by spreading misinformation, or does that only apply to "the far-right"? 🤔 https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/08/10/far-leftists-stormed-nigel-farages-office-in-london-the-only-problem-it-was-a-po-box/ Edited August 11 by Destination Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted August 11 #3 Share Posted August 11 4 hours ago, pellinore said: Reform UK has a difficult juggling act: they have to convince their supporters they are racists, to keep their support, and at the same time pretend to the general public that they aren't racists. Thousands of anti-racism protesters have gathered outside Reform UK’s headquarters with some accusing party leader Nigel Farage of spreading “dangerous rhetoric”. Demonstrators joined Stand up to Racism’s gathering which met outside the party’s headquarters in Victoria, central London, chanting in support of refugees before marching through Whitehall and towards Trafalgar Square to listen to speeches from activists. Organisers said the turnout of about 5,000 people showed the depth of support for refugees and other minority groups targeted in recent disorder, amid fears of further violence this weekend. Samira Ali, who made the closing speech, told the PA news agency: “We feel like we have turned the tide. It’s a testament to our mobilisation that they failed to come out. “They would not have been stopped if it was not for our mobilisation.” Another speaker, Gary McFarlan, 63, told the crowd: “A few days ago, the atmosphere was very different. Lots of people were very scared, worried about coming out on to the streets, thinking, ‘Will I get a half-brick in my head? Will I get kicked in the face by a Nazi?’. We turned it around this week.” Thousands of anti-racism protesters demonstrate outside Reform UK headquarters (msn.com) I think I am right in saying that when Stamer talked about the rioting and was asked about those who might be making things worse he refused to name Farage or Reform. Probably because there would be a court case and Starmer would have to apologise for miss speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 11 #4 Share Posted August 11 5 hours ago, pellinore said: Reform UK has a difficult juggling act: they have to convince their supporters they are racists, to keep their support, and at the same time pretend to the general public that they aren't racists. Define racism with regards to UK immigration. What is racism in this context in your opinion? Just out of interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 11 #5 Share Posted August 11 9 hours ago, Destination Unknown said: It's not even their headquarters, it’s a POSTAL ADDRESS.!! You'd think the morons would have known those offices were empty as they'd moved into their new offices a number of years ago. They can’t even turn up to the correct location, so why have they turned up to threaten and intimidate innocent clerical staff, some in their 20s? Are we to expect the organisers of this protest to be arrested and prosecuted for inciting tensions by spreading misinformation, or does that only apply to "the far-right"? 🤔 https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/08/10/far-leftists-stormed-nigel-farages-office-in-london-the-only-problem-it-was-a-po-box/ What misinformation have they spread? How are they inciting tensions by peacefully protesting? Answer those questions and we can revisit your claim at the end. Given your own source includes this same now well-disproven misinformation, I wouldn't put too much weight on it: Quote migrant murder of three children in Southport on July 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Unknown Posted August 11 #6 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Setton said: What misinformation have they spread? The fact that this isn't actually Reform UK's headquarters, but a postal address. 1 hour ago, Setton said: How are they inciting tensions by peacefully protesting? So in your Leftwaffe world protesters chanting slogans such as “Nazi scum – off our streets” and displaying a large flag depicting a swastika isn't somehow inciting tensions but peacefully protesting then? What planet are you on Setton, because it's certainly not planet earth. Oh, it's planet Leftwaffe, where anything the Marxists on the loony left get up to is automatically excused, or made excuses for. Edited August 11 by Destination Unknown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 11 #7 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Destination Unknown said: The fact that this isn't actually Reform UK's headquarters, but a postal address. Right..... Not exactly the same as making up that a Muslim asylum seeker was responsible for a stabbing carried out by a non-muslim British national, is it? Quote So in your Leftwaffe world protesters chanting slogans such as “Nazi scum – off our streets” and displaying a large flag depicting a swastika isn't somehow inciting tensions but peacefully protesting then? What planet are you on Setton, because it's certainly not planet earth. Oh, it's planet Leftwaffe, where anything the Marxists on the loony left get up to is automatically excused, or made excuses for. You're really pleased with the Leftwaffe one aren't you. Of course it fails linguistically and logically but that's probably a bit over your head. I'd say people protesting against white nationalists on our streets is not raising tensions, no. They have the right to peaceful protest. They're obviously not totally up on the different ideologies as Nazis are more accurately white supremacists, rather than white nationalists, but most people don't understand that nuance. Raising tensions would be spreading misinformation, targeting specific communities and engaging in violence. White supremacists and nationalists typically believe there is an inevitable "race war" coming. Some want to bring it about faster. It's not a coincidence that the ringleaders targeted Muslim communities, even once it was established the attacker was not Muslim. Classic accelerationism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Unknown Posted August 11 #8 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Setton said: Right..... Not exactly the same as making up that a Muslim asylum seeker was responsible for a stabbing carried out by a non-muslim British national, is it? Errrm, where did I say that it was? 🤔 Ahhh yes, that's right, I didn't did I. 🤷 59 minutes ago, Setton said: You're really pleased with the Leftwaffe one aren't you. I'd say people protesting against white nationalists on our streets is not raising tensions, no. Raising tensions would be spreading misinformation Yes I am. And yes of course you would, because you're in your Leftwaffe world, where anything the Leftwaffe Marxists do can automatically be excused. So what would you call telling these Leftwaffe Marxists to go and protest outside Reform UK's Headquarters in London, when clearly they were intimidating innocent clerical staff by protesting outside Reform UK's postal address, not their Headquarters, if you're not going to call it what it clearly is, raising tensions and spreading misinformation? Edited August 11 by Destination Unknown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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