Woman who helped instigate riots now playing victim card (Telegraph)

[Arbenol]

The name.

Immigration status.

On MI6 watchlist.

Lies also propagated by a member of this forum as well as this stupid woman and many more like her.

You could have found that out yourself. Your welcome. 

[Unusual Tournament]

2 hours ago, Arbenol said:

The name.

Immigration status.

On MI6 watchlist.

Lies also propagated by a member of this forum as well as this stupid woman and many more like her.

You could have found that out yourself. Your welcome. 

So now your in the business of threatening people?

Edited August 11 by Unusual Tournament

[MrAnderson]

Continuing from the other thread. I wasn't aware there was already one on the topic.

What kind of crime she committed to be arrested?

The BBC link I gave says she posted inaccurate information online on the identity of the person who killed the the three girls. Is this a crime in the UK or cybercrime as you called it? Because you will be living in a very dystopian society if you get arrested for thought crimes, personal opinions, and even for lies. It will require the thought police to spend so much time and resources to police free speech and they have to make thousands of arrests every day.

Is this arrest politically motivated?

@pellinore

[Setton]

1 minute ago, MrAnderson said:

Continuing from the other thread. I wasn't aware there was already one on the topic.

What kind of crime she committed to be arrested?

The BBC link I gave says she posted inaccurate information online on the identity of the person who killed the the three girls. Is this a crime in the UK or cybercrime as you called it? Because you will be living in a very dystopian society if you get arrested for thought crimes, personal opinions, and even for lies. It will require the thought police to spend so much time and resources to police free speech and they have to make thousands of arrests every day.

Is this arrest politically motivated?

@pellinore

No.

She wasn't arrested for "posting inaccurate information".

She was arrested "on suspicion of publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and false communications".

The fact that she has been arrested, while others who posted the same lie (like @itsnotoutthere) haven't, suggests she did a lot more than just retweet the false post.

[Ell]

She was arrested for adding “If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose” to her post.

[qxcontinuum]

I'd be curious however (to play the devils advice) how that young man was educated by his immigrants parents. 

The hate against western world and denial of its values seems to be propagated through family indoctrination which still makes the immigration point valid. 

My two cents on the matter is if one immigrates in a country, it should embrace its values, not maintain his own like a sick mule in a barn of healthy horses to radicalize/infect others.

Edited August 11 by qxcontinuum

[Setton]

2 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said:

I'd be curious however (to play the devils advice) how that young man was educated by his immigrants parents. 

The hate against western world and denial of its values seems to be propagated through family indoctrination which still makes the immigration point valid. 

My two cents is if one immigrates in a country, it should embrace its values, not maintain his own like a sick mule and radicalize/infect others.

There's nothing at all to suggest that his parents taught him to "hate the western world" in any way. There's not even anything to suggest the attack was motivated by hatred of the western world on his own part.

You're not playing devil's advocate. You're trying to somehow twist this tragedy to suit far right talking points because the truth isn't useful to you.

[qxcontinuum]

27 minutes ago, Setton said:

You're not playing devil's advocate. You're trying to somehow twist this tragedy to suit far right talking points because the truth isn't useful to you.

Nope, you're seeing other opinions as far right coming from a far left angle (ha ha).

I am trying to see this tragic event through the prism of an immigrant (myself) endocrinated by former communist societies that gay, black, brown and western world has no values and no religion ... you should have seen my dad educating me former ussr and Ukrainian values some long ago.

Edited August 11 by qxcontinuum

[Setton]

11 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said:

Nope, you're seeing other opinions as far right coming from a far left angle (ha ha).

Oh good, another one who assumes I'm far left because I don't blame immigrants for everything. How original.

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I am trying to see this tragic event through the prism of an immigrant (myself) endocrinated by former communist societies that gay, black, brown and western world has no values and no religion ... you should have seen my dad educating me former ussr and Ukrainian values some long ago.

And yet, as I said, you have absolutely nothing to suggest Rudakubana was taught to hate western values by his parents. Indeed, you have nothing to show his attack was in any way motivated by a hatred of western values.

So why bring it up if not to try and twist the truth to another anti-immigrant angle when the first lie failed so soundly.

[qxcontinuum]

1 hour ago, Setton said:

Oh good, another one who assumes I'm far left because I don't blame immigrants for everything. How original.

And yet, as I said, you have absolutely nothing to suggest Rudakubana was taught to hate western values by his parents. Indeed, you have nothing to show his attack was in any way motivated by a hatred of western values.

So why bring it up if not to try and twist the truth to another anti-immigrant angle when the first lie failed so soundly.

Calm down ****,  is perfectly normal to question everything and look under microscope. It is not, NOT to but life hasn't thought you this yet .

[pellinore]

5 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

The BBC link I gave says she posted inaccurate information online on the identity of the person who killed the the three girls. Is this a crime in the UK or cybercrime as you called it? Because you will be living in a very dystopian society if you get arrested for thought crimes, personal opinions, and even for lies. It will require the thought police to spend so much time and resources to police free speech and they have to make thousands of arrests every day.

@pellinore

5 hours ago, Ell said:

She was arrested for adding “If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose” to her post.

She isn't a naive middle-aged woman; she is a right-wing Conspiracy Theorist who is well known on GBNews and Talk TV: https://youtu.be/7cya_Ki4MR4?si=yn7_8oah7xyDkFWy

She has many followers and makes good money out of stirring up hatred (she lives in a million-pound farmhouse).

She was incited for inciting race hatred. The laws she was arrested for breaking are on the interweb if you Google her. She has been caught bang to rights- excuses like adding " if true" or "I'm only asking" etc won't work. It's like a burglar claiming he thought he was breaking into his own house because he forgot his key. She did the crime and has been caught.

Mr Anderson- no doubt you believe the American thought police were involved in Alex Jones being indicted? If you believe spreading misinformation and lies in order to cause pain for gain is free speech, you need to give your head a wobble. It would be a very dystopian society if there was no rule of law.

 

 

Edited August 11 by pellinore

[pellinore]

5 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

I'd be curious however (to play the devils advice) how that young man was educated by his immigrants parents. 

No one yet knows his motivation. What role did Anders Breivik's parents play, or Jeffrey Dahmer's parents, or Ted Bundy's? We just don't know at present; all we know is that the perps don't have to come from an immigrant family.

[Arbenol]

15 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

So now your in the business of threatening people?

Huh?

Who did I threaten?

[Grim Reaper 6]

16 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

So now your in the business of threatening people?

I don’t understand how are his comments a threat to anyone?

[Arbenol]

6 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I don’t understand how are his comments a threat to anyone?

Yeh. I'm a bit confused how he got to that.

[Grim Reaper 6]

18 minutes ago, Arbenol said:

Yeh. I'm a bit confused how he got to that.

So, am I it doesn’t make any sense.

[Unusual Tournament]

20 hours ago, Arbenol said:

The name.

Immigration status.

On MI6 watchlist.

Lies also propagated by a member of this forum as well as this stupid woman and many more like her.

You could have found that out yourself. Your welcome. 

Seems like a bloody big shark fin in a soapy bathtub to me  

[Unusual Tournament]

2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I don’t understand how are his comments a threat to anyone?

Seems like that to me

[Arbenol]

15 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Seems like that to me

Care to clarify? I'm curious.

[Unusual Tournament]

49 minutes ago, Arbenol said:

Care to clarify? I'm curious.

Who were you speaking to when you wrote your original quote?

22 hours ago, Arbenol said:

The name.

Immigration status.

On MI6 watchlist.

Lies also propagated by a member of this forum as well as this stupid woman and many more like her.

You could have found that out yourself. Your welcome. 

 

[Arbenol]

12 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Who were you speaking to when you wrote your original quote?

 

You (although, by then, @Ell had also chipped in).

You asked me what she had written. I answered you.

Why do you feel threatened by me?

[Ell]

22 hours ago, Arbenol said:

The name.

Immigration status.

On MI6 watchlist.

Lies also propagated by a member of this forum as well as this stupid woman and many more like her.

You could have found that out yourself. Your welcome. 

This was in answer to post 21.

[Arbenol]

19 minutes ago, Ell said:

This was in answer to post 21.

I know 

[Grim Reaper 6]

36 minutes ago, Ell said:

This was in answer to post 21.

Do you think it was a threat to any forum member?

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Seems like that to me

It Pretty obvious his comments were not direct at you, so who did he threaten?